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E class diesels on the production schedule!

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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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E class diesels on the production schedule!

We have 3 E320CDIs that just went onto our production schedule for March of this year. They are listed as '05 models.
They may not be immediately released but they should be built by April. If you are thinking about an E class diesel you should be able to order one at this point.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Don't see anything @ mbusa.com, what about price, and standard / optional equipment difference?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Re: E class diesels on the production schedule!

Originally posted by CME4BENZ
We have 3 E320CDIs that just went onto our production schedule for March of this year. They are listed as '05 models.
They may not be immediately released but they should be built by April. If you are thinking about an E class diesel you should be able to order one at this point.
I know this may be premature, but ANY word on a wagon version of the 320CDI? I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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The options do show up on netstar and are the same as the options for an 2004 E320.

No pricing yet. No word on a wagon or 4matic yet.
I am sure there will be a wagon. There was never a 4matic diesel (or a wagon) for the 210 E class but it would make sense.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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I am sure there will be a wagon.
Well, as soon as it is legal for me to register one in MA, I will be ordering a 320CDI wagon through Euro Delivery.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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will it ever be legal for you to register it in MA? if they follow the CA and NY law, it will not be.

how can they list these as 05 models?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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will it ever be legal for you to register it in MA? if they follow the CA and NY law, it will not be.

how can they list these as 05 models?
I can't buy one until 2007, when the diesel fuel becomes available with a lower sulfur content. It's ok, I wont be in the market for one until then anyway. We need to get married, buy a house, and get a used Grand Cherokee first.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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well, it depends on how your state handles it. some states simply don't allow that model to be sold (based on emissions), but allow it to be registered. some states don't even allow it to be registered (like NY and CA).
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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well, it depends on how your state handles it. some states simply don't allow that model to be sold (based on emissions), but allow it to be registered. some states don't even allow it to be registered (like NY and CA).
Oh. That's interesting. But like I said, the purchase of that car is not likely to happen until 2007 anyway.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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how can they list these as 05 models?
In the US models years aren't calendar years, they are emissions/safety years. As a 2005 model will have to pass all the regulations for a model year 2005.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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but what will it be badged as for resale purposes, a 2005? If so, its resale value will be much higher then the 2004s, regardless of what month it was actually delivered.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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The 2005 E320 CDI will make its US debut in Spring 04. It can currently pass current 45-state emissions standards.
Per MBUSA: "When low-sulphur diesel fuel becomes available in the US around 2007, our engineers are optimistic that the CDI diesel will meet emissions standards in all 50 states."
No guarantee Calif and Mass will ever see it....
It is rated at 201 hp and 369 lb-ft of torque.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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I'm with BobCanada

I'm with BobCanada: Give me an E400CDI, preferably with 4matic and in the wagon. That would be a killer car!
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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Re: I'm with BobCanada

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I'm with BobCanada: Give me an E400CDI, preferably with 4matic and in the wagon. That would be a killer car!
That would be the ultimate family car.

While I am cautiously optimistic that Europe will see a 400CDI wagon and that MAYBE it could come to the US, I really don't see them offering 4MATIC in ANY current diesel E.

They don't offer them in Germany and it is not like adding a moonroof. Maybe we'll see that in the next generation E-class, but not on this one. Gas cars and diesel cars are very different, and adding an AWD to an existing car system is not easy.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Oh my god... that's really funny. Cannot register a car because of the emissions... haaaaahahahahahahahaaaaa.

When driving through the USA, take a look at the cars driving around. V8 5.5L with 4265242622HP everywhere, the larger the engine the better the car sells. But oops... can't go faster than 110mph and even that is way too fast because there are cops all over. So what do you need a V8 for? But ok, if everyone buys these fuel-consuming "ultra low emission" monsters...

Then there is really efficient way to use natural ressources - diesel engines. But they produce a lot of particels. And then... oh yeah - somebody came up with a particular filter that really works. The E-220CDI is already available with a particular filter (have one) and the other models will get it early this year. Their emissions are so low - you cannot believe it - but cannot register them in some states?

The US-Government better forces the industry to produce high quality fuel for modern engines - then everybody can use state of the art technologie and protect the enviroment and save oil.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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45 STATE DIESEL

I have confirmed with my local dealer rep that the incoming diesels will NOT be sold in NY, CA, Mass, Maine or Vermont. These 5 states have adopted the CA emissions regulations.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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but Maine will allow the car to be registered there, having been purchased out of state. NY, CA and MASS will not. not sure about VT.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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It would be wise to check your state's rules. Sometimes they will permit transfers in-state which don't comply with current rules if they have been "registered" in another state. That first registration may obligate you for sales taxes in that first state, and then you might even get hit for another sales or use tax when you bring it to your state. Seldom will they let you register a non-complying vehicle on just an MSA (Manufacturers Statement of Origin) from the dealer and a temporary transit tag.
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OK, now it might be a tough choice between this and an E500. But we won't get a new Benz for several years, so there's plenty of time to think about it....
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