Does the E320 CDI have an I-6?!
01-30-2004, 08:03 PM
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Does the E320 CDI have an I-6?!
"Car & Driver" lists the E320 CDI as a turbocharged, intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6 diesel.
I'm a big fan of I-6s.
Does it really have an I-6?
By the way, the E320 CDI has 201 hp and 369 lb-ft of torque. Horsepower doesn't move the E Class, it is torque that gets your E moving.
I'm a big fan of I-6s.
Does it really have an I-6?
By the way, the E320 CDI has 201 hp and 369 lb-ft of torque. Horsepower doesn't move the E Class, it is torque that gets your E moving.
01-31-2004, 02:51 PM
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Just driven one back from Germany to the UK. The straight 6 is a dream! Effortless acceleration, smooth and quiet. Topped 130mph on the autobahn, before I remembered I was supposed to be running it in!
02-01-2004, 02:07 PM
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As far as I can tell, the diesel 220, 270 and 320 form a family of engines. They all have the same bore and stroke and go up from 4 cylinders (220), to 5 (270) and then 6 (320). In this case it seems unlikely that they would switch to a V6 for the 320 because they would lose a lot of commonality.
The 220 and the 270 are used in the C Class, and the 270 and the 320 in the E with the 320 also used in the S. I don't think even the Europeans put the 220 in the E. Not all the engines are released in all markets.
The 400 is a V8 which seems like it would be interesting, although I have never seen a comment from anyone who actually has one. I believe it is available in the E and the ML, but only in left hand drive (or so my dealer says).
I have an E320 and it is an amazing car, people I take in it just can't believe it's a diesel and it changes their whole view of the petrol/diesel thing.
The 220 and the 270 are used in the C Class, and the 270 and the 320 in the E with the 320 also used in the S. I don't think even the Europeans put the 220 in the E. Not all the engines are released in all markets.
The 400 is a V8 which seems like it would be interesting, although I have never seen a comment from anyone who actually has one. I believe it is available in the E and the ML, but only in left hand drive (or so my dealer says).
I have an E320 and it is an amazing car, people I take in it just can't believe it's a diesel and it changes their whole view of the petrol/diesel thing.
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02-01-2004, 04:40 PM
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E320 Gas engine owners better watch their backs when the diesels hit US shores. Not only does it acclerate to 60 MPH a full second quicker (6.4s vs. 7.4s) but it also outruns it's gas sibling in the quarter mile race as well while still able to get great mileage for a full size luxury car. CDI is the new wave of the future.
02-01-2004, 04:58 PM
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Just checked my owners manual - it states that the 320 and 320CDI have identical 0-100km/h performance times of 7.7 seconds. Where does the 6.4/7.4 seconds come from - are the UK models de-tuned compared to the US?
02-01-2004, 05:14 PM
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The numbers that I got are courtesy of Car and Driver, March '04. 369 lb/ft really helps accelaration, as they say "HP wins buyers, Torque wins races" and that quote seems very fitting here.
The numbers that I got are courtesy of Car and Driver, March '04. 369 lb/ft really helps accelaration, as they say "HP wins buyers, Torque wins races" and that quote seems very fitting here.
02-01-2004, 05:30 PM
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Agreed! The torque is what really matters in normal (or race) driving. The 320CDI is definately the best I have driven. I remember saying once that I would never drive a diesel, but I never thought I would find one like this!
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If I can do it, I hope to pick up a new US version of the E320 CDI at the factory in September. It looks like Arizona will be one of the states that will approve it.
We plan to spend some time driving around Europe and thought that having the Navigation system would come in handy. I assume the factory will supply a DVD for North America but perhaps I could get one for Europe at the factory. Anyone have Information or suggestions?
Would it be worth the expense for a three week tour?
We plan to spend some time driving around Europe and thought that having the Navigation system would come in handy. I assume the factory will supply a DVD for North America but perhaps I could get one for Europe at the factory. Anyone have Information or suggestions?
Would it be worth the expense for a three week tour?
02-02-2004, 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by johna1
As far as I can tell, the diesel 220, 270 and 320 form a family of engines. They all have the same bore and stroke and go up from 4 cylinders (220), to 5 (270) and then 6 (320). In this case it seems unlikely that they would switch to a V6 for the 320 because they would lose a lot of commonality.
The 220 and the 270 are used in the C Class, and the 270 and the 320 in the E with the 320 also used in the S. I don't think even the Europeans put the 220 in the E. Not all the engines are released in all markets.
As far as I can tell, the diesel 220, 270 and 320 form a family of engines. They all have the same bore and stroke and go up from 4 cylinders (220), to 5 (270) and then 6 (320). In this case it seems unlikely that they would switch to a V6 for the 320 because they would lose a lot of commonality.
The 220 and the 270 are used in the C Class, and the 270 and the 320 in the E with the 320 also used in the S. I don't think even the Europeans put the 220 in the E. Not all the engines are released in all markets.
Here is a statistic from Mercedes-Bens from August last year:
E200CDI 18%
E220CDI 23%
E200K 15%
E240 15%
E270CDI 10%
E320CDI 7%
E320 7%
E500 3%
E400CDI 1%
E55AMG 1%
02-02-2004, 04:21 AM
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The difference in the figures given by the Americans differs from the European figures simply because of the difference in figures. The Americans quote speeds 0 -60mph, compared to the 'more popular' 
0 - 62.5mph in Europe.
I hope this answers the query of whether our vehicles are 'de-tuned' compared to the US version.
Incidentally I was of the opinion that the 320CDI was not yet available in America (according to my Intelligence Sources )
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0 - 62.5mph in Europe.I hope this answers the query of whether our vehicles are 'de-tuned' compared to the US version.
Incidentally I was of the opinion that the 320CDI was not yet available in America (according to my Intelligence Sources
)Regards,
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02-02-2004, 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Oslo
You're right, John. The rest of Europe, excluding UK
, use 0-100 km/h (62.5 m/ph)
(and only 48 hrs to wait)
You're right, John. The rest of Europe, excluding UK
, use 0-100 km/h (62.5 m/ph)(and only 48 hrs to wait)
I then asked about the COMAND software upgrade for MP3's and much to my surprise he had no knowledge of it and will make some enquiries.
I have no faith in these "enquiries" and look forward to your input on the subject.
Regards for now,
John
02-02-2004, 07:23 AM
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Some new infos regarding MP3:
The new software version should be 3.0 (today 2.3)
It will only be possible to use MP3 CD's in the DVD-player. Not the magazine.
Still waiting for my mechanic to call.....
The new software version should be 3.0 (today 2.3)
It will only be possible to use MP3 CD's in the DVD-player. Not the magazine.
Still waiting for my mechanic to call.....
02-02-2004, 08:07 AM
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In that case I wonder if it would actually play MP3's on a writable DVD. Now if we say the average MP3 is 4 megabytes, then my primary school standard maths reckons on approximately 1200 MP3's. If we allow an average of 3 minutes per 
MP3, then we are looking at 3600 minutes or 60 hours. (what am I on?????) Then if we average even 40mph, that equates to 2,400 miles.
Form the tip of England to the furthest point of Scotland it is 827 miles, so if we call it 800, then I could travel the whole length of Great Britain 3 times before the DVD finished
(Maths corrected thanks to 'Oslo')
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John The Philosopher
MP3, then we are looking at 3600 minutes or 60 hours. (what am I on?????) Then if we average even 40mph, that equates to 2,400 miles. Form the tip of England to the furthest point of Scotland it is 827 miles, so if we call it 800, then I could travel the whole length of Great Britain 3 times before the DVD finished
(Maths corrected thanks to 'Oslo')
Regards,
John The Philosopher
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Originally posted by glojo
In that case I wonder if it would actually play MP3's on a writable DVD. Now if we say the average MP3 is 4 megabytes, then my primary school standard maths reckons on approximately 1200 MP3's. If we allow an average of 3 minutes per MP3, then we are looking at 36000 minutes or 600 hours. (what am I on?????) Then if we average even 40mph, that equates to 24,000 miles.
Form the tip of England to the furthest point of Scotland it is 827 miles, so if we call it 800, then I could travel the whole length of Great Britain 30 times before the DVD finished
Regards,
John The Philosopher
In that case I wonder if it would actually play MP3's on a writable DVD. Now if we say the average MP3 is 4 megabytes, then my primary school standard maths reckons on approximately 1200 MP3's. If we allow an average of 3 minutes per
MP3, then we are looking at 36000 minutes or 600 hours. (what am I on?????) Then if we average even 40mph, that equates to 24,000 miles. Form the tip of England to the furthest point of Scotland it is 827 miles, so if we call it 800, then I could travel the whole length of Great Britain 30 times before the DVD finished
Regards,
John The Philosopher
Well, John....
You cannot put MP3 on a DVD. So your calculation is wrong... Only "normal" CD's can be used. You can store abt. 150 MP3's. But it will take you a little bit north of London, depending on the traffic.
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Originally posted by glojo
In that case I wonder if it would actually play MP3's on a writable DVD. Now if we say the average MP3 is 4 megabytes, then my primary school standard maths reckons on approximately 1200 MP3's. If we allow an average of 3 minutes per MP3, then we are looking at 36000 minutes or 600 hours. (what am I on?????) Then if we average even 40mph, that equates to 24,000 miles.
Regards,
John The Philosopher
In that case I wonder if it would actually play MP3's on a writable DVD. Now if we say the average MP3 is 4 megabytes, then my primary school standard maths reckons on approximately 1200 MP3's. If we allow an average of 3 minutes per
MP3, then we are looking at 36000 minutes or 600 hours. (what am I on?????) Then if we average even 40mph, that equates to 24,000 miles. Regards,
John The Philosopher
02-02-2004, 09:59 AM
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Your right. At least I can blame the morphine I must be seeing noughts instead of little green martians. Good spotting
John
I must be seeing noughts instead of little green martians. Good spottingJohn
