I have a 2005 E500 5.0l m113 engine in my car. I have a collapsed lifter that needs to be fixed, while fixing it I thought why not also upgrade the cams. I found some cams with lifters out of a 5.4l supercharged m113k E55. I beleive these are drop in upgrades correct? And I should expect about 10hp increase with these?

 

That or slr cams. Question, how did your lifter become collapsed? Is your oil pump working correctly??? It's not unheard of but I'm just being curious as to what the culprit is, if you know...

 

I thought SLR cams needed modifications to fit? Also are those going to give much gain over E55 cams?

The cams I found actually come with the rockers not the lifters. Can I reuse my old lifters just replacing the one bad one? Or do I need all new lifters?

I have no idea how the lifter collapsed. The engine was swapped into my car for me, when I got it back the new engine had a ticking noise coming from the drivers side rear valve cover. I drove it with the tick (I know I shouldn't have) but it is really annoying me now so I want to fix it.

 

I think you would need to grind the ends off a little bit. Not much, just a tad. And interesting, usually when something in the valve train takes a poop there should more times then not be a culprit but who knows ya know? Hope you get it fixed and back on the road.

Not sure about the slr cam over the e55. However i have a coworker that did the slr cams in his 55 so i would assume they are a tad bit more aggressive....

 

I think I will just stick with e55 cams then, easier to find/cheaper and no mods required. Unless I will get substantial gains over the e55 then I don't see it worth the extra hassle.

It is entirely possible there is another problem. The engine arrived to me with the tick so not sure what happened to the motor before the tick started. Also I send the car out to have the swap done since I did not have anywhere I could do it myself. I know the guy that did the swap had the engine apart a few times, it is possible something happened then as well. I put about 12,000 miles on the engine with the tick and it hasn't gotten any worse, doesn't seem to be causing problems. I just am sick of everyone staring at me at every red light thinking my car is about to die lol.

On a side note, I see you are in VA. I use to live in Tysons Corner, and then was in Herndon after I got the engine swapped. Now I am in NH though. I should have posted earlier and maybe you could have helped me diagnose the issue lol.

 

Yeah, a dyno sheet would be your best friend pertaining to the diff gains. Yeah i'm in nova and for sure would of assisted as much as possible. Hahahaha at you at red lights-chicks staring at you like

 

Yeah, everyone stares and laughs until the light turns green. After I leave them in the dust they keep their heads down at the next light

 

But I'm asking myself, what is better... the E55 n/a cams or E55K cams..??





I will go on with the 55 non kompressor cams

 

Thanks for that sheet! I think I would rather wait and keep looking for a set of non kompressor cams instead then. You don't happen to have a sheet that has the same specs for the 5.0l cams as well do you? I just want to compare the cams I currently have installed to the ones I will install.

 

No I didn't have this spec sheet for 5.0 l conversion. But 4.3 and 5.0 is not that much different. I think the 5.5 n/a is the perfect tune for the 5.0

 

Any updates on this?

 

Yes, I was not able to find any camshafts at a reasonable price so I ended up only replacing the one bad lifter. Tick is still there but much better, I am pretty sure my issue is partial clog in the oil passage through the rocker arm assembly. I found way too much rtv sealant was used, and think some may have clogged the oil passage. I did try cleaning it out but guess I didn't get all of it.

I did finally find some camshafts after months of looking that I had shipped from Belarus, those arrived a few weeks ago. I will be pulling the engine hopefully in a few weeks to do the cam swap, recleaning the oil passage and a few other things. I have a Mini that needs to go back together before I can start though.

 

When will you do the cam swap? I found some N/A 55 cams for a good price and might want to do it (granted it'll work and I'll get some HP/TQ gains).

 

[QUOTE=slobo;6729099]But I'm asking myself, what is better... the E55 n/a cams or E55K cams..??


Thanks for this info. Do you have or know who has the specs on the Kleeman cams? Trying to decide if they are worth the $$.

 

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I had it done to mine, the 55 n/a cams are installed.
The car is working great and there is more power. The Engine Sound is more sporty and sounds completely different to the OEM 500. I love that mods really.

 

What were the parts involved other than the N/A 55 cams? Any valve springs, etc.?

Also, do you have a dyno to show the gains? Sounds really exciting!

 

No dyno sheet, but I will in april go for a dyno at Renntech Germany. I can't wait.
But I have to say, there was before the swap already a ECU and TCU Tune done from Seidt Performance from Stuttgart. So the gain would be more than on a OEM CLS 500 with 7G.

No Springs no lifter where changed, only the cams and some seals.

 

I have a tune and exhaust on my CLK500. What are the part numbers#s for the seals? Any pics

 

I don't have the numbers, but your dealership can help you. I only would like to say you, it's worth to do this swap. The engine will feel much more sporty

 

Did you have to re-tune for cams? If so, I'd have to tell Eurocharged

 

Are you talking about the valve cover gaskets?

I used Victor Reinz Part number VS50442 when I swapped the lifter out, got them on amazon for about $30 for the set.

Yeah I am excited for the swap, that along with CAI, mechanical fan delete and finally fixing the lifter should make the engine a little more responsive and sporty.

 

I'm looking for valve spring part # of a CLK55 (W209), C55, SLK55 (R171). Anyone have them?

 

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...mer-1130500094

 

Those are SLR springs. Would they still work?

This is a very amateur question, but how many valve springs are required? Forgive my lack of knowledge on this.

 

If you look under the fitment section it lists all the cars those will fit, W209 CLK55 being one of them. FCP Euro seems pretty good with their part numbers and fitment, but you could always call a dealership to confirm part numbers. Should need 24.