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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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The real COMAND in action (pic)

Interesting pictures of COMAND Navi from Germany: Here you will see the TMC in action. The TMC will send informations to the COMAND which again will present to the driver with informations where there are road congestions. Then the driver can ask for rerouting to avoid this. It will also inform about the length of the traffic build up indicated by the number of cars in the display. I think it's 1 km per car.


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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Oslo - Is that just the German version or all of Europe
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Eddie Knopp
Oslo - Is that just the German version or all of Europe
At the moment, TMC is only available in Germany and Sweden. I know that testing is going on in more countries, even in Norway

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Pardon my ignorance - what is TMC - some form of traffic information system that MB has integrated into the Navi ?

Thais great if real time. Over hear it seems you only hear about a problme on the radio after it's too late and you can't get off.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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TMC=Traffic Management Channel (broadcasted over FM)

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A satellite navigation system includes the RDS-TMC traffic information service from specialist traffic data company ITIS Holdings Plc as an integral function. When the Mercedes Nav's satellite navigation system receives a traffic message from ITIS, which holds the exclusive licence to broadcast RDS-TMC messages, the Mercedes Nav's satellite navigation system will not only alert the driver to traffic delays en route, but automatically suggests a detour or alternative route to avoid the hold-up ahead.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Thanks - I guess by the time we get it on this side of the pond it will have to come from the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration).
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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i hear this system works great in europe i just dont see it working here. example: i live in santa monica, if i want to drive down to orange county i have 2 choices, the 405 and 5 freeways which are almost always backed up so what would this system do for me? would it pick a freeway at random? haha in europe is understandable but that map would be filled with little tinny cars on the command systems here in los angeles
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by FIXEDupW209
i hear this system works great in europe i just dont see it working here. example: i live in santa monica, if i want to drive down to orange county i have 2 choices, the 405 and 5 freeways which are almost always backed up so what would this system do for me? would it pick a freeway at random? haha in europe is understandable but that map would be filled with little tinny cars on the command systems here in los angeles
LOL, that's what I was just thinking. Hear in NYC it would be the same. I can just see the Long Island Expressway, filled up with little red cars!
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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That is so funny!

For my Senior Technical Writing Class, I developed a whole system to use this type of traffic monitoring system integrated into NAV systems!!! Can't wait until that comes here!

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Hi Oslo,
You really know how to hit below the belt. This is supposed to be an excellent system that European countries are gradually adopting, but strangely we don't appear to belong to that part of Europe.

Our 'President' (we really have a Prime Minister) hasn't authorised it's use. Although all motorways, and most trunk routes are connected to it. It can be accessed I believe by mobile phone, although the RAC has a little detector that 'sticks' onto the windscreen and gives abbreviated information.

It would be brilliant to have it in the UK.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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John, I just got a new toy, and it's ENGLISH. I have an Ipaq Pocket PC, a Bluetooth GPS receiver, Tomtom Software and the free Checkpoint software. All coordinates for Speed cameras in Norway. there are 600 of them (and UK, several thousand) can be downloaded for free. So now I get a nice warning on my Ipaq when I approach a Speed camera, and a voice tells me how many seconds left to the camera and the actual speed thats allowed on that particular road. Of course, I never "overspeed"
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Oslo
John, I just got a new toy, and it's ENGLISH. I have an Ipaq Pocket PC, a Bluetooth GPS receiver, Tomtom Software and the free Checkpoint software. All coordinates for Speed cameras in Norway. there are 600 of them (and UK, several thousand) can be downloaded for free. So now I get a nice warning on my Ipaq when I approach a Speed camera, and a voice tells me how many seconds left to the camera and the actual speed thats allowed on that particular road. Of course, I never "overspeed"
I think the 'several thousand' are all in Devon . Definitely a very handy piece of equipment for those of us who are just 'curious' about the location of these 'stealth tax collecting machines'. A pity it cannot be linked into the COMAND system.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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On a more serious note Does it also warn of other permanant sited Police speed detecting equipment. On a few motorways we have camera's that read your number plate, then at a measured distance there is a second camera that again reads the number plate. The speed over the measured distance is collated and the information fed into the computer system that churns out the summons and it gets posted to the registered keeper of the vehicle all without any human input.

Other locations have two pressure tapes just below the surface and they also work out speed and are connected to a single camera that 'snaps' you.

So these two examples do not give off any radio signal, but are permanant sites. It is perfectly possible that the sites are indeed programmed into your gadget.

Good luck,
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by glojo
I think the 'several thousand' are all in Devon . Definitely a very handy piece of equipment for those of us who are just 'curious' about the location of these 'stealth tax collecting machines'. A pity it cannot be linked into the COMAND system.

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Hmmm. Next time (if there will be one) ** I buy a COMAND without NAV, use a VGA converter from the IPAQ into the Video AUX on the COMAND, and have the Ipaq screen transfered to the COMAND. Better, and a lot cheaper.

** That reminds me of the following:

George Bernard Shaw, Britain's wittiest playwright invited Britain's wittiest statesman one night to the theater:

TO WINSTON CHURCHILL HAVE RESERVED TWO TICKETS FOR MY PLAY ON FIRST NIGHT COME AND BRING A FRIEND, IF YOU HAVE ONE. --SHAW

Churchill replied:
TO GEORGE BERNARD SHAW IMPOSSIBLE TO COME TO FIRST NIGHT. WILL COME TO SECOND NIGHT, IF YOU HAVE ONE.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by glojo
On a more serious note Does it also warn of other permanant sited Police speed detecting equipment. On a few motorways we have camera's that read your number plate, then at a measured distance there is a second camera that again reads the number plate. The speed over the measured distance is collated and the information fed into the computer system that churns out the summons and it gets posted to the registered keeper of the vehicle all without any human input.

Other locations have two pressure tapes just below the surface and they also work out speed and are connected to a single camera that 'snaps' you.

So these two examples do not give off any radio signal, but are permanant sites. It is perfectly possible that the sites are indeed programmed into your gadget.

Good luck,
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Here is the spec:

# Accident Blackspots
# Gatso Cameras
# Inductive loop Gatso
# Truvelo Cameras
# SPECS Average Speed Cameras
# Mobile Laser Cameras
# Regulated Roadworks
# Your own mobile or danger area sites
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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I taught Winston most of his 'one liners'

I liked the one when a 'Lady' called him a drunk. He replied, "Yes I am, and you madam are ugly: but when I wake up in the morning I will be sober".


The spec. is brilliant and your ideas are... 'very technical'

Well done,
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Lady Astor, the American-born socialite and first female Member of Parliament got so exasperated at a dinner party one night that she told him: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd poison your soup." He replied, "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it."
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Originally posted by FIXEDupW209
i hear this system works great in europe i just dont see it working here. example: i live in santa monica, if i want to drive down to orange county i have 2 choices, the 405 and 5 freeways which are almost always backed up so what would this system do for me? would it pick a freeway at random? haha in europe is understandable but that map would be filled with little tinny cars on the command systems here in los angeles
do you ever check out www.sigalert.com before departing for oc? i live in the greater los angeles area and find that the site helps a lot. it tells me the degree of congestion so i can decide if i want to take surface streets or stick it out on the freeway. at least here in la, there are tons of surface streets that can get you to the same destination...u just have to know which ones and how to make it to your destination.
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Oslo,

Dude your posts just seem to make me more and more angry each time. To think we have the same car but you get to play with all this cool isht while the best trick I can do is display Track 1 no matter which track I am starting on. Life is pretty unfair in the number 1 market place for MBs (Southern CA)

Thanks for the update.
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Oslo


Lady Astor, the American-born socialite and first female Member of Parliament got so exasperated at a dinner party one night that she told him: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd poison your soup." He replied, "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it."
How can a 'Foreigner' know more about one of our great leaders?? Well done

If this quote does not get a reaction then I give in:

"The Americans will always do the right thing... After they've exhausted all the alternatives."
- Winston Churchill



Bye for now,
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 06:10 AM
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Talking about alternatives:

During a speaking tour in Canada, Churchill attended a reception and found himself seated next to a stiff-necked Methodist bishop.

A pert young waitress appeared with a tray of sherry glasses. She offered one to Churchill, which he took, and then one to the Methodist bishop. The bishop was aghast at the alcoholic offer, saying, "Young lady, I’d rather commit adultery than take an intoxicating beverage."

Thereupon, Churchill beckoned the girl. "Come back, lassie; I didn’t know we had a choice."
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I nearly give in.



Well done,
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Originally posted by glojo

I nearly give in.



Well done,
John
Never, Never let it be said that I'm a quitter!!! (To be read in a Churchillian manner)

Here's another quote where he was at a large house
party and was chatting up some Duchess or another and was already quite, shall we say toasty.

He looked at her and asked:

"Madam, would you sleep with me for, say, a million pounds."

She paused and responded:

"Well, Sir Winston, I believe I would."

"How about for ten pounds?"

The aristocratic lady was horrified.

"Sir Winston!" she gasped. "What kind of woman do you think I am?"

To which, Churchill smiled and replied:

"Madam, we have already settled that question. Now all we're doing is
haggling over price!"

Over to you.

John

By the way Churchill drove to the party in a 211 E-class 320CDI with option 616, which had perfect 'pre-checks' (Just to keep this thread topical)
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In January 1960, a reporter for the London Standard approached Churchill at a reception.

"Sir Winston, what is your comment on the prediction made the other day that in the year 2000, women will rule the world?"

"They still will, will they?" was Churchill’s grunted response.
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I'm getting desparate!

The greatest lesson in life is to know
that even fools are right sometimes.


I feel that I can personally relate to this one.

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