E320 vs S500 Dilemma
05-13-2004, 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by DMI+RY
I end up with S-Class (of course).
Spent weeks debating over this dilemma...
Even waited for 320CDI to show up… I am 6’3” about 210 lbs and in W211 is not as comfortable to me as in W220.
No doubt that for over 10K less I got much better vehicle (including all S-Class standards as xenon, Airmatic, pneumatic doors & trunk, v8 5L engine, etc.).
The car is not new though and I liked W211 COMAND better then '01 W220. Yet, the look, comfort, performance and all the extras (like AMG package, distronic, A/C seats - see my sig) - I could not resist W220.
The W211 is a great car with very cool design and I like it very much… But not as much I like W220…
Another point was that from a few hundred feet away you can't really say from behind if its W211 or Camry - this doesn’t happens with W220 though…
Just my 2 cents
I end up with S-Class (of course).
Spent weeks debating over this dilemma...
Even waited for 320CDI to show up… I am 6’3” about 210 lbs and in W211 is not as comfortable to me as in W220.
No doubt that for over 10K less I got much better vehicle (including all S-Class standards as xenon, Airmatic, pneumatic doors & trunk, v8 5L engine, etc.).
The car is not new though and I liked W211 COMAND better then '01 W220. Yet, the look, comfort, performance and all the extras (like AMG package, distronic, A/C seats - see my sig) - I could not resist W220.
The W211 is a great car with very cool design and I like it very much… But not as much I like W220…
Another point was that from a few hundred feet away you can't really say from behind if its W211 or Camry - this doesn’t happens with W220 though…
Just my 2 cents
05-13-2004, 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by DMI+RY
I end up with S-Class (of course).
Spent weeks debating over this dilemma...
Even waited for 320CDI to show up?I am 6??about 210 lbs and in W211 is not as comfortable to me as in W220.
No doubt that for over 10K less I got much better vehicle (including all S-Class standards as xenon, Airmatic, pneumatic doors & trunk, v8 5L engine, etc.).
The car is not new though and I liked W211 COMAND better then '01 W220. Yet, the look, comfort, performance and all the extras (like AMG package, distronic, A/C seats - see my sig) - I could not resist W220.
The W211 is a great car with very cool design and I like it very much?But not as much I like W220?
Another point was that from a few hundred feet away you can't really say from behind if its W211 or Camry - this doesn’t happens with W220 though?
Just my 2 cents
I end up with S-Class (of course).
Spent weeks debating over this dilemma...
Even waited for 320CDI to show up?I am 6??about 210 lbs and in W211 is not as comfortable to me as in W220.
No doubt that for over 10K less I got much better vehicle (including all S-Class standards as xenon, Airmatic, pneumatic doors & trunk, v8 5L engine, etc.).
The car is not new though and I liked W211 COMAND better then '01 W220. Yet, the look, comfort, performance and all the extras (like AMG package, distronic, A/C seats - see my sig) - I could not resist W220.
The W211 is a great car with very cool design and I like it very much?But not as much I like W220?
Another point was that from a few hundred feet away you can't really say from behind if its W211 or Camry - this doesn’t happens with W220 though?
Just my 2 cents
05-13-2004, 10:45 AM
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Thanks all!
The car is smooth and very powerful. AMG package looks really cool and handling is very sporty… Yet it is a truly luxury car that makes you want to keep driving it…
I fell in love with Parktronic and Distronic and I am afraid I that no other car without these features would be considered anymore…
Seats are very comfortable (Multicontour) and once you adjust them properly – they are really good. Massage feature is kind of weird but at the same time really cool.
Phone and VCS with voice recognition is very nice to have (especially when you can get pulled over in NYC for using cell phone while driving). Voice Recognition is not 100% accurate but once you start using it, it becomes very natural and very cool.
Hopefully, the car would last a while without major problems… (also purchased WarrantyDirect for 4 years / 100k mi)
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Thanks all!
The car is smooth and very powerful. AMG package looks really cool and handling is very sporty… Yet it is a truly luxury car that makes you want to keep driving it…
I fell in love with Parktronic and Distronic and I am afraid I that no other car without these features would be considered anymore…
Seats are very comfortable (Multicontour) and once you adjust them properly – they are really good. Massage feature is kind of weird but at the same time really cool.
Phone and VCS with voice recognition is very nice to have (especially when you can get pulled over in NYC for using cell phone while driving). Voice Recognition is not 100% accurate but once you start using it, it becomes very natural and very cool.
Hopefully, the car would last a while without major problems… (also purchased WarrantyDirect for 4 years / 100k mi)
05-13-2004, 10:34 PM
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Good choice.
I am also in the market of a larger sedan as well. However my choices are between the S500 or a LS430 (used)
I took a look at someone mentioning that the new S will probably lower the value of the current W220, and since I am not that big in a hurry, I'll probably wait.
Another concern I have of the S classes .. because of its many gadgetry .... potentially, there could be many little problems here and there.. but I guess it comes with the territory.
I have driven both S500 and LS430, I would say there is nothing that could compare to a true MB even the LS is definitely very close and VERY quiet and smooth... but lacks the character of a MB
I am also in the market of a larger sedan as well. However my choices are between the S500 or a LS430 (used)
I took a look at someone mentioning that the new S will probably lower the value of the current W220, and since I am not that big in a hurry, I'll probably wait.
Another concern I have of the S classes .. because of its many gadgetry .... potentially, there could be many little problems here and there.. but I guess it comes with the territory.
I have driven both S500 and LS430, I would say there is nothing that could compare to a true MB even the LS is definitely very close and VERY quiet and smooth... but lacks the character of a MB
05-13-2004, 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by TorontoW210
Good choice.
I am also in the market of a larger sedan as well. However my choices are between the S500 or a LS430 (used)
I took a look at someone mentioning that the new S will probably lower the value of the current W220, and since I am not that big in a hurry, I'll probably wait.
Another concern I have of the S classes .. because of its many gadgetry .... potentially, there could be many little problems here and there.. but I guess it comes with the territory.
I have driven both S500 and LS430, I would say there is nothing that could compare to a true MB even the LS is definitely very close and VERY quiet and smooth... but lacks the character of a MB
Good choice.
I am also in the market of a larger sedan as well. However my choices are between the S500 or a LS430 (used)
I took a look at someone mentioning that the new S will probably lower the value of the current W220, and since I am not that big in a hurry, I'll probably wait.
Another concern I have of the S classes .. because of its many gadgetry .... potentially, there could be many little problems here and there.. but I guess it comes with the territory.
I have driven both S500 and LS430, I would say there is nothing that could compare to a true MB even the LS is definitely very close and VERY quiet and smooth... but lacks the character of a MB
05-14-2004, 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by TorontoW210
Good choice.
I am also in the market of a larger sedan as well. However my choices are between the S500 or a LS430 (used)
I took a look at someone mentioning that the new S will probably lower the value of the current W220, and since I am not that big in a hurry, I'll probably wait.
Another concern I have of the S classes .. because of its many gadgetry .... potentially, there could be many little problems here and there.. but I guess it comes with the territory.
I have driven both S500 and LS430, I would say there is nothing that could compare to a true MB even the LS is definitely very close and VERY quiet and smooth... but lacks the character of a MB
Good choice.
I am also in the market of a larger sedan as well. However my choices are between the S500 or a LS430 (used)
I took a look at someone mentioning that the new S will probably lower the value of the current W220, and since I am not that big in a hurry, I'll probably wait.
Another concern I have of the S classes .. because of its many gadgetry .... potentially, there could be many little problems here and there.. but I guess it comes with the territory.
I have driven both S500 and LS430, I would say there is nothing that could compare to a true MB even the LS is definitely very close and VERY quiet and smooth... but lacks the character of a MB
05-14-2004, 01:43 AM
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Warranty is one thing, but having to bring the car in and out of the garage is another...
As long as no major problems with the S class, I am happy. There will always be some clitches here and there.. as long as it doesn't afftect too much on the car, it should be fine.. I am sure even a Lexus will not be perfect even though they 'relentlessly pursue it' haha
As long as no major problems with the S class, I am happy. There will always be some clitches here and there.. as long as it doesn't afftect too much on the car, it should be fine.. I am sure even a Lexus will not be perfect even though they 'relentlessly pursue it' haha
05-14-2004, 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by TorontoW210
Warranty is one thing, but having to bring the car in and out of the garage is another...
As long as no major problems with the S class, I am happy. There will always be some clitches here and there.. as long as it doesn't afftect too much on the car, it should be fine.. I am sure even a Lexus will not be perfect even though they 'relentlessly pursue it' haha
Warranty is one thing, but having to bring the car in and out of the garage is another...
As long as no major problems with the S class, I am happy. There will always be some clitches here and there.. as long as it doesn't afftect too much on the car, it should be fine.. I am sure even a Lexus will not be perfect even though they 'relentlessly pursue it' haha
There seems to be that the problems on car by car basis - mostly electric/electronic components. Yet I noticed that once many people after paying big $$ for S-Class become very suspicious about every single "not-as-supposed-to-be" thing, which is not the case with lower segment cars (including Toyota's upscale).
Besides the car itself and engine performance, W220 is LOADED with little things that keep you happy while you are driving. Obviously, the more complicated it becomes, the more vulnerabilities it inherits....
05-14-2004, 11:21 AM
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I agree 100%
Usually MB owners especially the higher end would probably demand more perfection from their close to $100K car.
As well, more techie gadget means more chances some of these things may go wrong as time passes.
Usually MB owners especially the higher end would probably demand more perfection from their close to $100K car.
As well, more techie gadget means more chances some of these things may go wrong as time passes.
05-15-2004, 02:08 AM
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http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60379
Same discussion you're having here regarding "higher end cars" and the "higher expectations" the owners have. Read marcio's comments in particular. He makes some very cogent points.
Same discussion you're having here regarding "higher end cars" and the "higher expectations" the owners have. Read marcio's comments in particular. He makes some very cogent points.
05-15-2004, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by TorontoW210
I agree 100%
Usually MB owners especially the higher end would probably demand more perfection from their close to $100K car.
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I agree 100%
Usually MB owners especially the higher end would probably demand more perfection from their close to $100K car.
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