E-Class (W211) 2003-2009
View Poll Results: SBC a problem????
Can be heard inside the car
14
25.93%
Clears after the first few minutes
6
11.11%
Is irritatingly obtrusive
11
20.37%
Cannot be heard & obviously not a problem
23
42.59%
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SBC a Problem???

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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by jav
Just got back from the MB dealer and he replied that the SBC sound is normal, and that there is nothing you can do to eliminate it.

Actually he says it is a "relay" (do not know if my translation is correct) which makes the noise.

Just wanted to share with you this info.

Hi Jav
Your English is excellent.

A Relay is a type of electrical switch, the noise you should be hearing is a very slight pnuematic (air) noise, plus a mechanical movement. (The brake system 'sets')

Hopefully your national Mercedes-Benz web site will have a section that describes the SBC system.

I will have a quick browse.

John
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by jav
Just got back from the MB dealer and he replied that the SBC sound is normal, and that there is nothing you can do to eliminate it.

Actually he says it is a "relay" (do not know if my translation is correct) which makes the noise.

Just wanted to share with you this info.

Unfortunately my Spanish is as good as my Chinese
Sorry I could not get any further.

http://www.mercedes-benz.es/index.asp?menu=1
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by glojo
Unfortunately my Spanish is as good as my Chinese
Sorry I could not get any further.

http://www.mercedes-benz.es/index.asp?menu=1
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Glojo, thanks for your comments and information.
I will follow the link for more info.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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This is the electronically controlled brakes right? Noise doesn't bother me too much. Usually goes away after a few minutes. It's the software that annoys me. If I press it further than 1/2 an inch, it decides I'm in an emergency brake situation and slams on the brakes. Really bad when trying to park.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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I have the noisy brake problem which is very annoying specially when sitting in traffic.

I also notice this when I'm backing out of the garage in the mornings.

Took it back to the dealer and was also told that this is normal...
a little disappointed since this is my first Benz. I have a 5 year old BMW with no noise what so ever!
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Took it back to the dealer and was also told that this is normal...
a little disappointed since this is my first Benz. I have a 5 year old BMW with no noise what so ever!
The 'Poll' would definitelydisagree with your dealers remarks.
Only 25% of the vote stated they could hear the noise within the car.

I must confess I would find it unacceptable to have ANY sort of obtrusive noise coming from the vehicle mechanics.

The 211 is a brilliant vehicle that I am more than satisfied with and I feel sorry for those that have this problem.

John
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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I am also a traitor of BMW, now I have learned my lesson from suffering such a stupid noise!!!

B.Rgds.,
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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mrod, the dealer is wrong (what a surprise, right?). This is not normal, and a Star bulletin is available to fix the problem. I haven't had it done yet since I'm not due for my first service yet, but they insulate some hoses that apparently is causing the problem.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by codex57
This is the electronically controlled brakes right? Noise doesn't bother me too much. Usually goes away after a few minutes. It's the software that annoys me. If I press it further than 1/2 an inch, it decides I'm in an emergency brake situation and slams on the brakes. Really bad when trying to park.
I agree completely. Mine is noisy - it is a low groan accompanied by vibration. Quite noticeable.

The funny thing is that it really doesn't bother me nearly as much as the brake software. I know it's been mentioned before that the later builds "feel" better.

I did drive a new E55 but I wasn't really paying attention to how smooth the car was at stopping. Just a little too busy with the go pedal.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by alewifebp
mrod, the dealer is wrong (what a surprise, right?). This is not normal, and a Star bulletin is available to fix the problem. I haven't had it done yet since I'm not due for my first service yet, but they insulate some hoses that apparently is causing the problem.

Thanks for letting me know. I noticed that you're in North Jersey. I'm in Central Jersey and my dealer is Millenium in Bridgewater. If you don't mind, please let me know which dealer informed you of the "fix"....in case Millenium decides to stay in denial about this....


Thanks!
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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This fix dates back to June or July of '03. Can't believe the problem still exists.

Bulletin P-B-42.46/27A – Install pulsation damper for SBC
- Noisy brake pump
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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Break noise fix for 2004 not yet available

Dealer told me there is fix for 2003 model only. No fix for 2004.
I have the same groaning and vibration problem in my 04 E320 model
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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I own one of the very first 20O3 E500 (April 2002...)

The new blades are much softer and solve the noises and the virbation problems. You just need to

But my main problem is coming from the rainsor which makes the speed of the wipers in auto functiong crazy: less it rains faster they go...
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Mine, a May 2004 W211 E240 also no noise
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