Drove CDI today
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Drove CDI today
I took a short drive today and was very impressed. The car is very quiet and has excellent acceleration. There is a very short turbo lag but after that it feels almost as strong as the E500. I can't believe many people could fault the performance. I certainly don't think I will miss the E500 with the airmatic and 4-zone but only time will tell. I will be picking up my CDI at the factory on May 24th so it will be a while before I can give a full evaluation.
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I am pleased that you were not disappointed.
I still find it extraordinary that a diesel can give such impressive performance.
Good luck with your new purchase.
John
I still find it extraordinary that a diesel can give such impressive performance.
Good luck with your new purchase.
John
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Hello. New member here as a result of my ordering a CDI two days ago for European delivery in October. Moving over from a 996 that I'm just not driving enough. I'd never driven a Mercedes before my test drive of the CDI on Saturday, and, needless to say, was very impressed. I expected good acceleration with the torque of the diesel, but the steering really surprised me as it was much tighter than I'd been led to believe. Quiet, rock-solid ride sealed it for me. Great forum here--learned a lot already.
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Originally posted by glojo
I still find it extraordinary that a diesel can give such impressive performance.
John
I still find it extraordinary that a diesel can give such impressive performance.
John
Have you seen any of the reviews of the new S Type diesel in the Uk motoring press? It seems to be a very strong player too. In Autocar it came first with E60 second and W211 third. In What Car the E60 first, S Type second and W211 third.
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Originally posted by Fastbuck
John
Have you seen any of the reviews of the new S Type diesel in the Uk motoring press? It seems to be a very strong player too. In Autocar it came first with E60 second and W211 third. In What Car the E60 first, S Type second and W211 third.
John
Have you seen any of the reviews of the new S Type diesel in the Uk motoring press? It seems to be a very strong player too. In Autocar it came first with E60 second and W211 third. In What Car the E60 first, S Type second and W211 third.
Thanks for the information. I will have to send 'The Boss' out to get the magazine.
It will be interesting to read about the new Audi A6 diesel as well.
Happy motoring.
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I guess I'm just fickle. I like to keep trying new things. I didn't like the 15mpg I was getting around town but that certainly wasn't the reason for a change. I have owned over 40 MB's 8 of which were diesels when it was hard to love them. I'm the kind of buyer that my dealer likes since I change cars so often. My wife says it's much better that I trade cars, not wives. This will be my 18th time picking up an MB at the factory. I will probably sell this car as soon as I can get an E350 CGI or a V6 CDI.
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Originally posted by MB-JIM
I have owned over 40 MB's 8 of which were diesels when it was hard to love them.
I have owned over 40 MB's 8 of which were diesels when it was hard to love them.
BTW, you should get into that new Mercedes commercial with Sterling Moss and the Finish ambulance or the million mile Mercedes. You would be shown just back from Sindelfingen with your 40th-something Mercedes.
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Adobe - Believe it or not I have a 1987 300TD Turbodiesel Wagon that I picked up at the factory in September 1986. My wife simply won't let me sell it. I will probably have it for quite a few more years. Yes, I have had to buy tires for the TD but that is probably the only one in the past 20 years. In the past 9 years I have had 5 W210's, 2 CLK's, 2 C320's and the E500.
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Originally posted by MadC32
Hope you're getting the E400 CDI as well.. that's things a rocket!
Hope you're getting the E400 CDI as well.. that's things a rocket!
The performance figures seem to be staggering.
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Originally posted by The Doctor
I'm trying to talk pops into getting rid of the 2000 E320 for a CDI.
When's the CDI wagon coming out?
I'm trying to talk pops into getting rid of the 2000 E320 for a CDI.
When's the CDI wagon coming out?
If you look at my signature that will answer your question. Once again though we come back to MBUSA deciding on what they will import.
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Originally posted by MadC32
Yes. It has mad torque.. And since it's a V8, you can't hear the typical Diesel-sound too much anymore.. But most people here stick to the E500.
Yes. It has mad torque.. And since it's a V8, you can't hear the typical Diesel-sound too much anymore.. But most people here stick to the E500.
Is it just the 'stigma' of older generation diesels that make them less popular than the E500? Or is diesel dearer than petrol in Switzerland.
In the UK diesel cars are getting more and more common. Fuel price is obviously a major reason, but performance, durability and longer service intervals are also convincing arguments.
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It has 560 Nm of torque. Not quite as much as an AMG, but still enough for neck snapping acceleration.
Same here, Diesel are getting more popular each day, but still represent only 10 percent of all cars sold in Switzerland. People who can afford expensive cars, can obviously spend lots of cash on petrol. It's rather the cheaper cars that are being purchased as a Diesel.
Same here, Diesel are getting more popular each day, but still represent only 10 percent of all cars sold in Switzerland. People who can afford expensive cars, can obviously spend lots of cash on petrol. It's rather the cheaper cars that are being purchased as a Diesel.
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Originally posted by MadC32
It has 560 Nm of torque. Not quite as much an an AMG, but still enough for neck snapping acceleration.
People who can afford expensive cars, can obviously spend lots of cash on petrol. It's rather the cheaper cars that are being purchased as a Diesel.
It has 560 Nm of torque. Not quite as much an an AMG, but still enough for neck snapping acceleration.
People who can afford expensive cars, can obviously spend lots of cash on petrol. It's rather the cheaper cars that are being purchased as a Diesel.
You are obviously correct in your statement. There certainly is not, nor can I ever see a diesel Rolls Royce, Bentley or Maybach
. Range Rover, yes, Jaguar, yes and indeed the Mercedes-Benz S class. Oh, I nearly forgot the Volkswagen Phaeton V10 TDiI am still having a little chuckle at the thought of Her Majesty the Queen with a diesel Rolls Royce????
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It does seem that it they made the 400CDI in the US, that it should sell well with the right type of marketing. Speed and fuel economy.
But, diesel fuel is still a little scarce here in the US, and the thought of having to compete with truckers for the limited diesel pump space, will probably keep the diesel from becoming very popular here.
But, diesel fuel is still a little scarce here in the US, and the thought of having to compete with truckers for the limited diesel pump space, will probably keep the diesel from becoming very popular here.
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Originally posted by alewifebp
But, diesel fuel is still a little scarce here in the US, and the thought of having to compete with truckers for the limited diesel pump space, will probably keep the diesel from becoming very popular here.
But, diesel fuel is still a little scarce here in the US, and the thought of having to compete with truckers for the limited diesel pump space, will probably keep the diesel from becoming very popular here.
We never bought it at truck stops. Most of the time the nozzles were too big anyway.
Have you had a problem finding diesel in NJ?
We're seriously considering a new E320 CDI and our only concern is the poor quality of diesel fuel here. The best diesel in the US has about 50 times more sulfur than in Germany.
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****ing bull****.... I went to my dealer today. They say that the CDI isnt available until 2006... CA emission laws. I didn't believe it..but the MBUSA site says the same. gAY!
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Originally posted by BudC
We're seriously considering a new E320 CDI and our only concern is the poor quality of diesel fuel here. The best diesel in the US has about 50 times more sulfur than in Germany.
We're seriously considering a new E320 CDI and our only concern is the poor quality of diesel fuel here. The best diesel in the US has about 50 times more sulfur than in Germany.
The service intervals of the CDI engine is also something most US owners find hard to either except, or understand. Because the servicing is done on a monitoring basis and not a fixed mileage the intervals vary between 18,000 to 27,000 miles, these intervals are so impressive because of the quality of fuel and oil.
I am waiting to hear what the service intervals for US CDI engines will be.
Good luck,
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Originally posted by glojo
A very fair comment. In the UK our diesel is between 5 and 10 parts per million Sulphur content depending on brand. I believe in the US you are looking at anything between 130 to 400 parts per million. Yuk!!!!!!
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A very fair comment. In the UK our diesel is between 5 and 10 parts per million Sulphur content depending on brand. I believe in the US you are looking at anything between 130 to 400 parts per million. Yuk!!!!!!
Good luck,
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If I leased or bought a new car quite often, I wouldn't be concerned but I tend to keep a car a long time so having to use bad diesel fuel for more than two years in an engine that's more complex than current gas/petrol engines is another story.
Another thing is that there won't be many CDI's imported into the U.S. so you have to wonder if dealers will have the experience or parts to provide good service for these new cars.
Finally, the CDI has particulate traps that rely on exhaust heat to burn off ash. Even with the low sulfur fuels in Europe, these traps sometimes require servicing to clean out unburned ash. This could be a major problem with the poor U.S. fuel.
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Originally posted by kwk
I understand the US model will not have the particulate trap. I didn't know why, but your info on sulfur content is certanly the reason.
I understand the US model will not have the particulate trap. I didn't know why, but your info on sulfur content is certanly the reason.
If someone can verify that there will be no particulate traps on the 2005 U.S. models, It'll pretty much convince me to buy one.
