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06-05-2004, 03:53 AM
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Hi,
For close to $63,105 you get both premium and Appearance package E500. All you need is add $1050 for keyless go.
If they buy your car for $25,000 and you pay additional $33,000 means over all you spend $58,000 OTD (included tax). Hmm, that mean you buy the car approximately around $53000 before tax and license. The deal is giving more than $9000 discount.
The deal is good. Make sure you request for 2.9% financing (60 months) if you are qualify for the special rates.
Some deal might give you a little more discount and make money fom "back end" interest rates....
Good luck to ya!!
For close to $63,105 you get both premium and Appearance package E500. All you need is add $1050 for keyless go.
If they buy your car for $25,000 and you pay additional $33,000 means over all you spend $58,000 OTD (included tax). Hmm, that mean you buy the car approximately around $53000 before tax and license. The deal is giving more than $9000 discount.
The deal is good. Make sure you request for 2.9% financing (60 months) if you are qualify for the special rates.
Some deal might give you a little more discount and make money fom "back end" interest rates....
Good luck to ya!!
06-05-2004, 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by Elite
But rusnakmb,
Did I get a good deal though ?
$62,500 - $25,000(my car) = $37,500
and I only paid $33,000
so I saved $4500 am I correct ?
I thought you work for car dealer? could you tell me if I right ?
E500 for $63,000 ? does it come with keyless go ? premium ? xenon ? or it's just base?
But rusnakmb,
Did I get a good deal though ?
$62,500 - $25,000(my car) = $37,500
and I only paid $33,000
so I saved $4500 am I correct ?
I thought you work for car dealer? could you tell me if I right ?
E500 for $63,000 ? does it come with keyless go ? premium ? xenon ? or it's just base?
Hope you made it back up on your trade in or the price you paid was for out the door.
06-05-2004, 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by codex57
I priced your car out. $61,605 MSRP. Invoice of $57,943. Let's round it to $62K - $58K. That's $4k off. What you said you got. You said you paid $4500 under sticker? So you got $500 under invoice? If so, then you only got a so-so. Nothing to be ashamed of, just nothing to really brag about either.
Hope you made it back up on your trade in or the price you paid was for out the door.
I priced your car out. $61,605 MSRP. Invoice of $57,943. Let's round it to $62K - $58K. That's $4k off. What you said you got. You said you paid $4500 under sticker? So you got $500 under invoice? If so, then you only got a so-so. Nothing to be ashamed of, just nothing to really brag about either.
Hope you made it back up on your trade in or the price you paid was for out the door.
06-05-2004, 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by rusnakmb
The deal is good. Make sure you request for 2.9% financing (60 months) if you are qualify for the special rates.
The deal is good. Make sure you request for 2.9% financing (60 months) if you are qualify for the special rates.
06-05-2004, 10:00 AM
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Hi rusnakmb,
Tax here in OH is 6.75%
Oppss.. My fault.. just looked at the sticker price again.. it wasnt even $62,000 :p
it was $61,805, hehehe...
p.s. rusnakmb, could you tell me why do you think the deal doesnt make sense? I'm just curious? when you u said you work for car dealer, was it benz dealer? if so, I'd like to hear your opinion as MB salesman.. why is that not possible to get that deal... I bought the car at Dealer name Crown Mercedes at Columbus, OH
btw.. I pay CASH :P I'm a student... dont have income
thanks
Henry
Tax here in OH is 6.75%
Oppss.. My fault.. just looked at the sticker price again.. it wasnt even $62,000 :p
it was $61,805, hehehe...
p.s. rusnakmb, could you tell me why do you think the deal doesnt make sense? I'm just curious? when you u said you work for car dealer, was it benz dealer? if so, I'd like to hear your opinion as MB salesman.. why is that not possible to get that deal... I bought the car at Dealer name Crown Mercedes at Columbus, OH
btw.. I pay CASH :P I'm a student... dont have income
thanks
Henry
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06-05-2004, 10:56 AM
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Are you guys saying an '04 with a $61,994 sticker and a $57,604 invoice should sell for $54,600?
06-05-2004, 11:02 AM
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Are you guys saying an '04 with a $61,994 sticker and a $57,604 invoice should sell for $54,600?
Are you guys saying an '04 with a $61,994 sticker and a $57,604 invoice should sell for $54,600?
06-05-2004, 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by HELL ONA HARLEY
lets get the facts.... The MB 2.9% financing is for USED C, E and M class vehicles only.....
lets get the facts.... The MB 2.9% financing is for USED C, E and M class vehicles only.....
I don't get my information online or from mbusa.com, I am getting the information on what MB is offer to dealership.
I will not provide anymore information on special rate nor incentive on this forum. I don't get anything but BSing from people like you who thinks he know everything. They are special rate on C, CLK, CL, S, SLK and M and the rate is very low!!
For those who want information on special interest rate please ask Mr. HELL ONA HARLY, because he knew all the special rates.
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Originally posted by Elite
Hi rusnakmb,
Tax here in OH is 6.75%
Oppss.. My fault.. just looked at the sticker price again.. it wasnt even $62,000 :p
it was $61,805, hehehe...
p.s. rusnakmb, could you tell me why do you think the deal doesnt make sense? I'm just curious? when you u said you work for car dealer, was it benz dealer? if so, I'd like to hear your opinion as MB salesman.. why is that not possible to get that deal... I bought the car at Dealer name Crown Mercedes at Columbus, OH
btw.. I pay CASH :P I'm a student... dont have income
thanks
Henry
Hi rusnakmb,
Tax here in OH is 6.75%
Oppss.. My fault.. just looked at the sticker price again.. it wasnt even $62,000 :p
it was $61,805, hehehe...
p.s. rusnakmb, could you tell me why do you think the deal doesnt make sense? I'm just curious? when you u said you work for car dealer, was it benz dealer? if so, I'd like to hear your opinion as MB salesman.. why is that not possible to get that deal... I bought the car at Dealer name Crown Mercedes at Columbus, OH
btw.. I pay CASH :P I'm a student... dont have income
thanks
Henry
The reason I think it is hard to believe is.... I guess many of you knew the invoice of MB is around 6% plus hold back. If a deal have a discount greater than a certain rage, how can a dealership sell you a car and lose money? Certain model like C class now have $3k incentive, so dealership can offer deeper discount, but E class do not have incentive now and how can a dealership discount as much as $9,000? Or even one guy "BooBoo" mention that he is getting $13,000 of MSRP? It just not making any sense.
You guys are free to ask anyone who know about MB sales or maybe the board moderator, the deal is simply hard to believe. Of course they might be other factors involved.
06-05-2004, 05:03 PM
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i dont think if a dealer loses money on a deal is hard to believe. you guys dont tell us enough info on allocations, and everything else. if a dealer gets a car for free, they cant lose money, no matter what they sell it for..
or maybe its to expensive to sit on thier lot, and they want to get rid of it.....there are many reasons im sure why a dealer will sell a car and lose money on it...
or maybe its to expensive to sit on thier lot, and they want to get rid of it.....there are many reasons im sure why a dealer will sell a car and lose money on it...
06-05-2004, 05:44 PM
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Re: Whatcha Think?
Originally posted by Ducman
My local dealer is selling a brand new e 320 ,$3000 below invoice,only drawback I see is he had the car on the lot since january of this year. and other ones are nov and dec of last year,should I jump on this or wait out a bit till the 05's start to trickle in?TIA
My local dealer is selling a brand new e 320 ,$3000 below invoice,only drawback I see is he had the car on the lot since january of this year. and other ones are nov and dec of last year,should I jump on this or wait out a bit till the 05's start to trickle in?TIA
rusnakmb
I mean no disrespect nor do I wish to question or downplay your info, reasoning, or justifications.
06-05-2004, 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by zam2000
I like it !!. Just because you're buying a Benz (or any car), doesn't mean you have to be ripped off by (greedy) dealer. Only for exotic car (Ferrari, Aston Martin, Rolls), or very limited production cars (E55, M5, RS6) get full MSRP or even mark-up nowaday. Law of supply and demand. I don't see why people can't bargain hard for car that dealer have plenty on lot. As far as I see, the lot at Fletcher Jones is as big as any Chevy & Toyota dealer, and I'm sure they & other Benz dealers are eager to move cars on lot ASAP.
And that'll tech a hard lession to those who think you have to take whatever crap dealer throw at us.
About Mercedes employee discount, it's crap: 13% !. You can get better deal than that now aday on C, E, S, and ML models.
And YES, you can get as good deal on Benz, BMW, Lexus, or Jarguar as you have at GM or Ford dealer. The only difference is that dealer don't post those $10K off MSR on newspaper & windshield (image ???). My neighbor got his new Carrera convertible (Porsches of Newport Beach) for 10K off MSRP, it's not advertised anywhere, he just found out after he stepped into dealer.
Smart buyer get it through negotiation, &*()&*(# pay full MSRP and have that "feel good" about prestigious car command sticker price
I like it !!. Just because you're buying a Benz (or any car), doesn't mean you have to be ripped off by (greedy) dealer. Only for exotic car (Ferrari, Aston Martin, Rolls), or very limited production cars (E55, M5, RS6) get full MSRP or even mark-up nowaday. Law of supply and demand. I don't see why people can't bargain hard for car that dealer have plenty on lot. As far as I see, the lot at Fletcher Jones is as big as any Chevy & Toyota dealer, and I'm sure they & other Benz dealers are eager to move cars on lot ASAP.
And that'll tech a hard lession to those who think you have to take whatever crap dealer throw at us.
About Mercedes employee discount, it's crap: 13% !. You can get better deal than that now aday on C, E, S, and ML models.
And YES, you can get as good deal on Benz, BMW, Lexus, or Jarguar as you have at GM or Ford dealer. The only difference is that dealer don't post those $10K off MSR on newspaper & windshield (image ???). My neighbor got his new Carrera convertible (Porsches of Newport Beach) for 10K off MSRP, it's not advertised anywhere, he just found out after he stepped into dealer.
Smart buyer get it through negotiation, &*()&*(# pay full MSRP and have that "feel good" about prestigious car command sticker price
06-05-2004, 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by rusnakmb
Once again. I am a little tired of dealing with you.
Once again. I am a little tired of dealing with you.
Originally posted by rusnakmb
They are special rate on C, CLK, CL, S, SLK and M and the rate is very low!!
They are special rate on C, CLK, CL, S, SLK and M and the rate is very low!!
What exactly do you do for MB??? Are you sure your not the guy who drives the soccer moms to the mall while their car is in for service for the morning???
06-06-2004, 12:51 PM
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
I don't want to get into this....
and I don't have time to, but I've been in, out and around the industry for nearly 30 years. I can tell you this:
1) Big city franchised car dealers aren't there to lose money. Not much, and not for long.
2) Inventory is not going to sit on the lot--there may be money lost here or there, but it's not going to be thousands of dollars at a time.
3) Incentives are not available here or there, or *****/nilly. The dealer body will raise Cain. To my knowledge, there is no trunk money on any new E class as of today. That could change tomorrow, and probably will as June goes on. And which one of you guys thinks that any dealer receives any car from MBUSA for "free"?
4) Yes, about 7.5% behind MSRP is real invoice, pre-holdback. A $13000 discount on a new E class of any description? I would also be quite skeptical. Perhaps the dealer has a "BS" additional window sticker?
I agree that most big city car dealers have no one to blame but themselves for the smoke/mirror routine. Do your homework, buy what you like from a reputable store, and if the deal seems too good to be true, I assure you it is.
Use your head.
1) Big city franchised car dealers aren't there to lose money. Not much, and not for long.
2) Inventory is not going to sit on the lot--there may be money lost here or there, but it's not going to be thousands of dollars at a time.
3) Incentives are not available here or there, or *****/nilly. The dealer body will raise Cain. To my knowledge, there is no trunk money on any new E class as of today. That could change tomorrow, and probably will as June goes on. And which one of you guys thinks that any dealer receives any car from MBUSA for "free"?
4) Yes, about 7.5% behind MSRP is real invoice, pre-holdback. A $13000 discount on a new E class of any description? I would also be quite skeptical. Perhaps the dealer has a "BS" additional window sticker?
I agree that most big city car dealers have no one to blame but themselves for the smoke/mirror routine. Do your homework, buy what you like from a reputable store, and if the deal seems too good to be true, I assure you it is.
Use your head.
06-07-2004, 04:11 PM
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HELL ONA HARLY,
If you disagree with my statement, that is fine. Just go away.
There are different rates MB offering for different models. For E Class, you ask for 2.9% up to 60 months. If you were "carefully" read the posts I had before, you probably will "understand" more. The best rate is 0.9% but it is for C and other models. Since we are tlaking about E Class here, so I just indicate the rates for E class and did not specificly list out other models. There are different rates of every model and I am not gonna list them all!!
I guess you have no idea on any of these special rates. All you can do here is disagree and disagree on something you have no idea about. It is not wrong to disagree with others, but at least you must "know" before you disagree.
This is a forums people looking into getting informations. I provide informations here base on what I know. Please do not abuse the preveledge of posting your negative opinions. I don't want to getting into any arguement with you. All I ask is get a life and stay away from my post. Stop acting like a childish HELL ONA HARLY.
If you disagree with my statement, that is fine. Just go away.
There are different rates MB offering for different models. For E Class, you ask for 2.9% up to 60 months. If you were "carefully" read the posts I had before, you probably will "understand" more. The best rate is 0.9% but it is for C and other models. Since we are tlaking about E Class here, so I just indicate the rates for E class and did not specificly list out other models. There are different rates of every model and I am not gonna list them all!!
I guess you have no idea on any of these special rates. All you can do here is disagree and disagree on something you have no idea about. It is not wrong to disagree with others, but at least you must "know" before you disagree.
This is a forums people looking into getting informations. I provide informations here base on what I know. Please do not abuse the preveledge of posting your negative opinions. I don't want to getting into any arguement with you. All I ask is get a life and stay away from my post. Stop acting like a childish HELL ONA HARLY.
06-07-2004, 04:19 PM
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Hi Hell ona Harley,
Did you see the GP motorbike racing this weekend?
Not a Harley in sight, but what racing!!
Remember, sticks and stones etc.
Take care,
John
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Did you see the GP motorbike racing this weekend?Not a Harley in sight, but what racing!!
Remember, sticks and stones etc.
Take care,
John
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06-07-2004, 04:54 PM
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AFTER READING EVERY POST IN THIS THREAD, I CAN ONLY COME TO ONE CONCLUSION AS TO HOW THIS GUY IS GETTING SUCH A GREAT DEAL ON THIS CAR, IT IS CALLED (ALT) SERVICE, A PROGRAM ONLY MERCEDES BENZ PEOPLE WILL KNOW ABOUT, AND WHAT IT ALLOWS A DEALER TO DO IS PUT THAT CAR IN (ALT) SERVICE FOR A MINIMUM OF 3 MOS, CASH OUT OF THE CAR SO TO SAY, AND GET ABOUT A 7000 CREDIT FROM BENZ, GIVE ME THE LAST 7 DIGITS OF THE VIN AND I WILL TELL YOU IF THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CARS, ONLY DRAWBACK BEING WARRANTY CLOCK STARTED TICKING WHEN CAR WAS PUT IN ALT SERVICE. AS FAR AS SPECIAL RATES ON NEW BENZES THERE ARE GREAT RATES ON CERTAIN CARS CURRENTLY, NEW ONES NOT USED, ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ML BRIDGE LEASE FOR 15 MOS, IT IS A GREAT DEAL, ALSO RATES ON LEASES ARE AT RECORD LOWS FOR BENZ, JUST NEED A SALESPERSON WILLING TO WORK THE SYSTEM FOR YOU.
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Originally posted by glojo
Hi Hell ona Harley,
Did you see the GP motorbike racing this weekend?
Not a Harley in sight, but what racing!!
Remember, sticks and stones etc.
Take care,
John
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Hi Hell ona Harley,
Did you see the GP motorbike racing this weekend?Not a Harley in sight, but what racing!!
Remember, sticks and stones etc.
Take care,
John
Sunny Torquay
No, I missed them john....
I was to busy tearing up the roads here on my side of the globe on the hog.... Absolutly beautiful riding weather here right now...
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Thanks for the pm - excellent heads up!
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I would be skeptical of anyone's deal - people brag all the time about the great deal they got but neglect to tell you that it was a demo or buy back or that they traded in a vehicle...that being said if the OP got a great deal good for him.
06-10-2004, 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by rusnakmb
Hi,
I work for dealership and I know approximately what other dealership is selling the E class at. 04 production cut down early compare with other years. The production usually cut in June to July. But E class has been cut down since April. MB is not making anymore 04 E classes. There are only few still on the water now.
That means the dealership will not have more new E class arrive and the inventory will need to hold for approx 2 months from now. The demand is still the same but E class will run out. Simple economic, when supply goes down means demand will go up.
I am not saying that he is lying, but you will not buy an E class now for $3000 below invoice. It is just no way. It is possible to get $3000 below invoice don't get me wrong. But certainly not at this moment. That usually happen at end of year when inventory are running high and dealership getting rid of old car before new ones arrive. Or when each dealership still have lots cars in stock need to sales them soon for next year's allocations.
Remember 04 producion cut off early and each dealership do not have excess cars in inventory. Perhap I am worry that I don't have enough car to sales before new cars arrive. Do you think dealership will "dump" the car now??
I just sold a 04 E500 with AMG sport package at MSRP. No kidding. We are the only few dealerships have the car in Sol Cal. The largest MB dealership Fletcher Jones don't even have one. maybe they'll get ONE soon.
If you are planning to buy an 04 E Class that you better act now. You will not get the same deal as 03 for cheap. The car is running low soon. 05 E class does not included maintance commidment. That mean you'll spend maybe $600 to $1000 on service.
The premium package price jump high for another factor...
Hi,
I work for dealership and I know approximately what other dealership is selling the E class at. 04 production cut down early compare with other years. The production usually cut in June to July. But E class has been cut down since April. MB is not making anymore 04 E classes. There are only few still on the water now.
That means the dealership will not have more new E class arrive and the inventory will need to hold for approx 2 months from now. The demand is still the same but E class will run out. Simple economic, when supply goes down means demand will go up.
I am not saying that he is lying, but you will not buy an E class now for $3000 below invoice. It is just no way. It is possible to get $3000 below invoice don't get me wrong. But certainly not at this moment. That usually happen at end of year when inventory are running high and dealership getting rid of old car before new ones arrive. Or when each dealership still have lots cars in stock need to sales them soon for next year's allocations.
Remember 04 producion cut off early and each dealership do not have excess cars in inventory. Perhap I am worry that I don't have enough car to sales before new cars arrive. Do you think dealership will "dump" the car now??
I just sold a 04 E500 with AMG sport package at MSRP. No kidding. We are the only few dealerships have the car in Sol Cal. The largest MB dealership Fletcher Jones don't even have one. maybe they'll get ONE soon.
If you are planning to buy an 04 E Class that you better act now. You will not get the same deal as 03 for cheap. The car is running low soon. 05 E class does not included maintance commidment. That mean you'll spend maybe $600 to $1000 on service.
The premium package price jump high for another factor...
06-11-2004, 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by rusnakmb
Hi,
... The premium package price jump high for another factor...
Hi,
... The premium package price jump high for another factor...
Out of interest, can you provide further detail on this?
thx
