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Old 09-27-2018, 11:13 AM
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need spark plug torque for 2012 e350 M276

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1) I should ONLY use MB spark plug?
2) Video I saw mentioned spark plug "Alignment" or bad things happen. Will Torque it self cause proper alignment?
3) What is Torque for 2012 e350 M276 - or where can I find these answers.
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I use non-OEM plugs and they are fine.
Usually Bosch, NKG, or Denso.
On the box it says the torque (18 ft. lbs. )
Use a torque wrench.
What do you mean by spark plug alignment?
I have seen videos about "lining up" spark plugs to increase performance, but not required.
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Here is OEM part # to comparison shop. Replacement specs, see attachment. BTW, should be posting here: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-c...brio-a207-141/


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on this video
is where I heard about "indexing the Spark Plug"
Between (40 seconds - 2 minutes ) they talk about tips/tricks/TSBs

Does this make sense?
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Originally Posted by JBs2012
on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiRAnh_wEjg
is where I heard about "indexing the Spark Plug"
Between (40 seconds - 2 minutes ) they talk about tips/tricks/TSBs

Does this make sense?
Wow.
This video makes an incredibly easy task incredibly difficult.
I have never, ever heard of indexing being required as the author suggested.
First, read a little about indexing to get some context, it is controversial:
https://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/07/indexplugs/

Also, see how simply a spark plug change is:
http://www.mercedesmedic.com/spark-plug-diy/

The author of the video even takes out the car's CPU to change the spark plugs. WTF.

Plus, he uses a $600 torque wrench.
My digital torque wrench was less than $50.

Some videos are incredibly helpful on the internet, others not so much.
This was the worst DIY video I have ever seen, and I have seen a lot.

Does anyone disagree?
If I am incorrect I would truly like to know.



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Originally Posted by LexBrett2

Plus, he uses a $600 torque wrench.
My digital torque wrench was less than $50.
What does that have to do with anything? Most mechanics I know (and I work at a dealership) don't use cheap tools. Almost all of them are using Snap-On or Matco, especially those that have been doing this stuff for years.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Here is OEM part # to comparison shop. Replacement specs, see attachment. BTW, should be posting here: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-c...brio-a207-141/


HA! I see nothing about having the engine explode/misfire if not indexed, pulling the ecu, or using a $600 wrench
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23nm is the correct torque. Check the last post here https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...-question.html for a screenshot of the bulletin from MB showing why aftermarket plugs may not be aligned properly. Indexing is real and is done from factory on the 276/278 engines and their derivatives.
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Joe1 - So if you use MB spark plugs, and torque them correctly - that will index them correctly - YES? no two way about it.
Also it mentions you might need to replace the 6 intake gaskets - YES or just reuse ?

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Originally Posted by JBs2012
Joe1 - So if you use MB spark plugs, and torque them correctly - that will index them correctly - YES? no two way about it.
Also it mentions you might need to replace the 6 intake gaskets - YES or just reuse ?

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Yes, correct plugs and torque puts them where they need to be.

You don't have to remove the plenum, but if you do, you can re-use the gaskets, just pull them from the upper part and put them on the lower half before you re-install.
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Appreciate your help. And glad to hear I don’t need to remove the plenum to get to spark plugs.
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What does that have to do with anything? Most mechanics I know (and I work at a dealership) don't use cheap tools. Almost all of them are using Snap-On or Matco, especially those that have been doing this stuff for years.
Yeah I see what you mean. Im just saying that the video overcomplicared such a simple task. I didn't know you worked at a dealership. How cool!
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Yeah I see what you mean. Im just saying that the video overcomplicared such a simple task. I didn't know you worked at a dealership. How cool!
I work at a Harley dealership, not Mercedes. Same difference when it comes to the tools that the techs use.
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I am able to change plugs on my 06 E320 quite easily, never concerned with indexing, toque spec i use is 0nm.
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I am able to change plugs on my 06 E320 quite easily, never concerned with indexing, toque spec i use is 0nm.
No indexing on the non-DI motors. You don't tighten them at all? How's that working out for you?
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No indexing on the non-DI motors. You don't tighten them at all? How's that working out for you?
Nope don’t tighten them at all, merc engineers specify not to For the year 06, a e320 only came in a CDI flavor.
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Nope don’t tighten them at all, merc engineers specify not to For the year 06, a e320 only came in a CDI flavor.
Can't change what you don't have.
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Mercedes does not make spark plugs. They source them.
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I agree, but they might have a particular manufacturer that designs the threads so when torqued down to 23 nm the electrode is in the correct position.

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