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Old 05-10-2002, 01:33 AM
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E Class Navigation - BMW 5 news

I have an E Class on order but am concerned what to do with the Navigation system. Not sure if I should take early delivery or wait till the new DVD based Naviagtion systems arrives in October. I still dont understand wht they simply do not install the newer version for the earky deliveries... (JULY-aUG). I ordered the phone package, bi-xenon lights.

Am trading in my 528i. I just heard that BMW 5 series will offer for 2003 the newly redesigned 530i with 312 bhp.....In fact they recently redesigned the car to make it appear even more different than the 745i, much more sleaker...Making BMW push the delivery date back further

Am concerned with the intro of the new e-class, why they did not upgrade the e320 engine, 221 bhp is what Honda now offers.
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I just heard that BMW 5 series will offer for 2003 the newly redesigned 530i with 312 bhp.....


Where did you hear that??? It's impossible, period.
In any case HP/liter isn't the only way to judge the engine...consider torque, its' curve, what RPM range it's using, etc.
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Re: E Class Navigation - BMW 5 news

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I have an E Class on order but am concerned what to do with the Navigation system. Not sure if I should take early delivery or wait till the new DVD based Naviagtion systems arrives in October. I still dont understand wht they simply do not install the newer version for the earky deliveries... (JULY-aUG). I ordered the phone package, bi-xenon lights.
October delivery of E with Nav System??? I ordered the 500 with basically the same items that you mentioned (with voice command) and was told it would be Q1, 2003 before it would ready. Has the delivery date been moved up??
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530i will have twin-turbo, so it is definitely possible.

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StanR, how did you like the 528i? I don't have nearly enough money to afford one, but the E39 is one of my favorite cars and I'm curious how you liked yours.

Right now I have an '86 528e, and the biggest issues are the build quality (after 280K), interior materials, and a lack of power.

I'm wondering if a '97 or later 528i is worth pursuing.
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Stan R, The next 5-Series will be a 2004 model in the US. My guess is that there 'may' be two versions of 530i sedan. One regular one with 225+ Hp or so and another with Twin Turbos. The twin turbo concept sounds like a 'M' car version.
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i read on the bimmer board that the new 5-series line up will offer three performance models, a twin turbo v6 at 380hp, a v8, and the m5 v10.
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Stan R,

It's worth the wait for the DVD system. You don't need to switch CDs when travel to different area of the country, and the current CD system is slow.
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If it has a twin turbo setup then it will not be 530i, but called something else. No way regular 530i, the current one as it is, will have 312 hp, you are talking about a totally different model, turboed or whatever else, which is not 530i.
I don´t believe either that there will be major engine changes for the E39 generation for what it is its´final year in production or so. Most likely no changes at all.
Craig, 528i is a reasonably comfortable car with a max torque shifted to the higher rpm range, you need to rev it to extract all the power. It´s smooth though.

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Thanks; I guess that's why it's preferable to get a 528i with a manual transmission.
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Thanks for the responses. My 528i is incredible. It is 5 1/2 years old and in all honesty, it looks as new as the first day. the drives gets better everyday. Mine is black with sand premium leather. The model has made very little changes since the intro of the 1997 model. Mine has the 440 watt stereo and only 54K miles.
I love the car but after 5 1/2 years am really ready to change it...Most other cars that are 5 years old, really look it if not older. Even the current E series looks dated. But the 5 still looks up to date and awesome. I would wait for the new 5 and have even considered the 7. But am anxiuosly awaiting the arrival of the new E ...time for a change!

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The new look 5-Series is a mixture of 7-Series & Coupe lines, the official UK launch is due September 2003, clothed in a lightweight chassis loaded with high-tech gadgets. Two new power plants will also be joining the range a bi-Turbo 6 cylinder with 380Bhp & a awesome V10 5.5litre with 500Bhp on tap. A 3.0litre six that will produce 380Bhp & performance to closely match today’s M5.

A 530 Bi-Turbo, BMW’s only blown power plant will go head-to-head against Audi’s S6 & Jaguars S-Type R.

The new M5 will feature a 5.5litre V10 that will produce at least 500Bhp with a sub 5.0sec 0-60Mph time & will have a direct link with BMW’s Motorsport programme.

Codenamed the E60, the new 5-Series will be unveiled at the Frankfurt Motorshow next year, with the Touring model to follow in 2004. The new look is both modern & aggressive keeping inline with Chris Bangles design strategy, the front end will be all alloy design, the iDrive system will be more user friendly, bigger boot & more rear leg room over the current 5.

Traction control & Stability are to be accessed by conventional controls, simplifying the iDrive system, ground braking new steering system called Active Front Steering is adopted from ZF, the AFS automatically corrects the angle of the front wheels in heavy side winds & heavy braking. The new 5-Series is also featuring the 7-Series automatic damping control & dynamic drive that irons out the body roll. Other features from the 7-Series include the electronic handbrake & air conditioning that takes into account the intensity of the sun.

Suspension is by MacPherson struts up front & multi-link rear, lightweight aluminium space frame is used mainly forward of the front windscreen making weight savings up to 80kg.

The car is almost identical in length to today’s car at 4775mm but with 50mm extended to the wheelbase, boosting rear leg room.

The new 5-Series is to be powered by 2.0litre in-line four not currently on offer in the UK, also joining the range will be the 2.2, 2.5 & 3.0 litre six cylinder engines, while the 3.6litre & 4.4litre will be adopted from the new 7-Series. Both V8’s will be direct-injection & feature the fuel saving Valvetronic technology. Diesel models are to start with a 2.0litre four, 2.5, 3.0, & range topping 4.0litre common-rail diesel engines, although the 2.0 & 4.0 are currently not available in the UK. Transmission is to include a six-speed manual in the smaller engine variants & six-speed auto in the larger models.

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