Vibrations at idle (And low speed) W211 4Matic
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Vibrations at idle (And low speed) W211 4Matic
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Just bought a 2005-model E280 CDI 4Matic with a vibration coming from underneath the car. The vibrations usually occurs at idle in reverse and drive, and decreases when the RPM is rising (sometimes worse in drive, and sometimes in reverse). Both of the engine mounts and the transmission mounts has been replaced (OEM parts), with no change. The left CV axle (inner boot) was torn, and replaced with another OEM CV axle with no improvement here too. Sometimes when the car is parked without parking brake in a slight hill (with the engine downwards) the vibrations increases and can be felt through the steering wheel when the transmission is hitting the pawl. No vibrations can be felt when in normal speed. Besides this the vibrations also can be felt through the steering wheel when im turning in low speed.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Just bought a 2005-model E280 CDI 4Matic with a vibration coming from underneath the car. The vibrations usually occurs at idle in reverse and drive, and decreases when the RPM is rising (sometimes worse in drive, and sometimes in reverse). Both of the engine mounts and the transmission mounts has been replaced (OEM parts), with no change. The left CV axle (inner boot) was torn, and replaced with another OEM CV axle with no improvement here too. Sometimes when the car is parked without parking brake in a slight hill (with the engine downwards) the vibrations increases and can be felt through the steering wheel when the transmission is hitting the pawl. No vibrations can be felt when in normal speed. Besides this the vibrations also can be felt through the steering wheel when im turning in low speed.
Has anyone else experienced this?
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1) Did the issue begin after the CV axle was replaced?
2) Does it do it in park, or only drive/reverse? aka when load is provided.
3) If it did, what is "OEM". If it is ANYTHING but a BRAND NEW Genuine Mercedes part from the dealer its likely the issue if 1) and 2) are true.
I documented the issue with aftermarket cv axles and vibrations at idle a few months ago. Everybody told me it wasn't the axle and it wasn't possible, but I was convinced it was and it did fix my vibration issue. The problem is suspected to be caused by a lack of free float of the inner axle, likely due to the boot being incorrectly installed by aftermarket manufacturers which shortens the length of the axle. Because the front transfer case is mounted to the oil pan without any rubber, it transfers the vibrations straight over.
Your description is identical to what I was experiencing after I had a shop reboot my OE axle after the boot split. I then replaced the axle with a GKN aftermarket and the vibration got worse which made me further question it. Coughed up the big bucks for the MB part and problem solved. Buttery smooth again.
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/e3...#post-18203054
2) Does it do it in park, or only drive/reverse? aka when load is provided.
3) If it did, what is "OEM". If it is ANYTHING but a BRAND NEW Genuine Mercedes part from the dealer its likely the issue if 1) and 2) are true.
I documented the issue with aftermarket cv axles and vibrations at idle a few months ago. Everybody told me it wasn't the axle and it wasn't possible, but I was convinced it was and it did fix my vibration issue. The problem is suspected to be caused by a lack of free float of the inner axle, likely due to the boot being incorrectly installed by aftermarket manufacturers which shortens the length of the axle. Because the front transfer case is mounted to the oil pan without any rubber, it transfers the vibrations straight over.
Your description is identical to what I was experiencing after I had a shop reboot my OE axle after the boot split. I then replaced the axle with a GKN aftermarket and the vibration got worse which made me further question it. Coughed up the big bucks for the MB part and problem solved. Buttery smooth again.
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/e3...#post-18203054
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1) Did the issue begin after the CV axle was replaced?
2) Does it do it in park, or only drive/reverse? aka when load is provided.
3) If it did, what is "OEM". If it is ANYTHING but a BRAND NEW Genuine Mercedes part from the dealer its likely the issue if 1) and 2) are true.
I documented the issue with aftermarket cv axles and vibrations at idle a few months ago. Everybody told me it wasn't the axle and it wasn't possible, but I was convinced it was and it did fix my vibration issue. The problem is suspected to be caused by a lack of free float of the inner axle, likely due to the boot being incorrectly installed by aftermarket manufacturers which shortens the length of the axle. Because the front transfer case is mounted to the oil pan without any rubber, it transfers the vibrations straight over.
Your description is identical to what I was experiencing after I had a shop reboot my OE axle after the boot split. I then replaced the axle with a GKN aftermarket and the vibration got worse which made me further question it. Coughed up the big bucks for the MB part and problem solved. Buttery smooth again.
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/e3...#post-18203054
2) Does it do it in park, or only drive/reverse? aka when load is provided.
3) If it did, what is "OEM". If it is ANYTHING but a BRAND NEW Genuine Mercedes part from the dealer its likely the issue if 1) and 2) are true.
I documented the issue with aftermarket cv axles and vibrations at idle a few months ago. Everybody told me it wasn't the axle and it wasn't possible, but I was convinced it was and it did fix my vibration issue. The problem is suspected to be caused by a lack of free float of the inner axle, likely due to the boot being incorrectly installed by aftermarket manufacturers which shortens the length of the axle. Because the front transfer case is mounted to the oil pan without any rubber, it transfers the vibrations straight over.
Your description is identical to what I was experiencing after I had a shop reboot my OE axle after the boot split. I then replaced the axle with a GKN aftermarket and the vibration got worse which made me further question it. Coughed up the big bucks for the MB part and problem solved. Buttery smooth again.
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/e3...#post-18203054
2) Yes, it occurs in park too when load is provided, espesially when parked incline or in reverse/drive incline
3) The engine and transmission mounts were Lemforder and bought from dealer. The LEFT cv Axle was bought from a used car, but was a orginally OEM part, in good condition (Also same lenght). I have not tried yet to replace the right CV axle, wanting to know if that can possible be the problem first..
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1) Did the issue begin after the CV axle was replaced?
2) Does it do it in park, or only drive/reverse? aka when load is provided.
3) If it did, what is "OEM". If it is ANYTHING but a BRAND NEW Genuine Mercedes part from the dealer its likely the issue if 1) and 2) are true.
I documented the issue with aftermarket cv axles and vibrations at idle a few months ago. Everybody told me it wasn't the axle and it wasn't possible, but I was convinced it was and it did fix my vibration issue. The problem is suspected to be caused by a lack of free float of the inner axle, likely due to the boot being incorrectly installed by aftermarket manufacturers which shortens the length of the axle. Because the front transfer case is mounted to the oil pan without any rubber, it transfers the vibrations straight over.
Your description is identical to what I was experiencing after I had a shop reboot my OE axle after the boot split. I then replaced the axle with a GKN aftermarket and the vibration got worse which made me further question it. Coughed up the big bucks for the MB part and problem solved. Buttery smooth again.
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/e3...#post-18203054
2) Does it do it in park, or only drive/reverse? aka when load is provided.
3) If it did, what is "OEM". If it is ANYTHING but a BRAND NEW Genuine Mercedes part from the dealer its likely the issue if 1) and 2) are true.
I documented the issue with aftermarket cv axles and vibrations at idle a few months ago. Everybody told me it wasn't the axle and it wasn't possible, but I was convinced it was and it did fix my vibration issue. The problem is suspected to be caused by a lack of free float of the inner axle, likely due to the boot being incorrectly installed by aftermarket manufacturers which shortens the length of the axle. Because the front transfer case is mounted to the oil pan without any rubber, it transfers the vibrations straight over.
Your description is identical to what I was experiencing after I had a shop reboot my OE axle after the boot split. I then replaced the axle with a GKN aftermarket and the vibration got worse which made me further question it. Coughed up the big bucks for the MB part and problem solved. Buttery smooth again.
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/e3...#post-18203054
2) Yes, it occurs sometimes in park too, but most when parked inclined. Also most in reverse and drive when standing inclined. So basically when load is provided yes.
3) I bought the CV Axle from a used car, but this was the same lenght as the one on the car. I have not replaced the one on the right side yet, hoping for some more answers before buying it.. I also tried to disconnect the one on the left side when at idle, with no difference..
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1) The vibrations was already there when I bought the car, so I started with the most common fails, engine and transmission mounts with no difference
2) Yes, it occurs sometimes in park too, but most when parked inclined. Also most in reverse and drive when standing inclined. So basically when load is provided yes.
3) I bought the CV Axle from a used car, but this was the same lenght as the one on the car. I have not replaced the one on the right side yet, hoping for some more answers before buying it.. I also tried to disconnect the one on the left side when at idle, with no difference..
2) Yes, it occurs sometimes in park too, but most when parked inclined. Also most in reverse and drive when standing inclined. So basically when load is provided yes.
3) I bought the CV Axle from a used car, but this was the same lenght as the one on the car. I have not replaced the one on the right side yet, hoping for some more answers before buying it.. I also tried to disconnect the one on the left side when at idle, with no difference..
when it was my driver CV axle the vibrations were 5x worse on the bad side.
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turn the wheel to full lock (counterclockwise) have a helper leave it in drive hold the brakes and step out and feel the driver tire. Do you feel the vibrations in the driver tire more than the passenger tire?
when it was my driver CV axle the vibrations were 5x worse on the bad side.
when it was my driver CV axle the vibrations were 5x worse on the bad side.
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up to you what you want to do. New MB axle fixed it for me, but it’s $800. I tried the GKN brand and it made the vibration worse that’s when I went and got the genuine and problem solved.
shop around for the axle on dealer online part sites to find a good deal since they can vary wildly.
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possible, hard to know. Issue to me sounds like it’s more likely the CV over the bearing.
up to you what you want to do. New MB axle fixed it for me, but it’s $800. I tried the GKN brand and it made the vibration worse that’s when I went and got the genuine and problem solved.
shop around for the axle on dealer online part sites to find a good deal since they can vary wildly.
up to you what you want to do. New MB axle fixed it for me, but it’s $800. I tried the GKN brand and it made the vibration worse that’s when I went and got the genuine and problem solved.
shop around for the axle on dealer online part sites to find a good deal since they can vary wildly.
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possible, hard to know. Issue to me sounds like it’s more likely the CV over the bearing.
up to you what you want to do. New MB axle fixed it for me, but it’s $800. I tried the GKN brand and it made the vibration worse that’s when I went and got the genuine and problem solved.
shop around for the axle on dealer online part sites to find a good deal since they can vary wildly.
up to you what you want to do. New MB axle fixed it for me, but it’s $800. I tried the GKN brand and it made the vibration worse that’s when I went and got the genuine and problem solved.
shop around for the axle on dealer online part sites to find a good deal since they can vary wildly.
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