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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 11:15 PM
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Odd A/C issue

My 07 E350 is acting a little odd. When i first start the car in this heat it takes a lot longer for the air to get cold, more than ever, but once its working its ice cold.. The other issue is that left side isn't coming out cold but not hot either.. I plugged in the computer and all the flapper doors are working normal. What is going on?
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 01:09 PM
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Anyone know of this issue?
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 03:42 PM
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A/C system service would be a good starting point for the trouble shooting, might just be low on refridgerant.

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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 06:52 PM
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Thanks for the response. I have the a/c gauges. Would you know the settings on the high and low side? The readings on my autel show all a/c systems are working fine.
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 09:32 PM
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Thanks for the response. I have the a/c gauges. Would you know the settings on the high and low side? The readings on my autel show all a/c systems are working fine.
Could you please enter the clima/thermotronic menu in your AC control unit? You can read the registers from 1->10 and post them here. I do enter in mine by pressing the left AUTO button until the display changes from temperatures to something like this


Is your a 4-zone, or 2 zone system?

For reference, I am troubleshooting a 2008 with similar issues ( https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ling-used.html)
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 04:46 PM
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Thanks for the video. Unfortunately i don't have a rest button. I found the problem which made no sense but the freon was low. I added about 10 oz. and fixed the problem. I did add a sealer since there must be a leak. Hope it seals. Thanks for all the help!!!!
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 05:21 PM
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Thanks for the video. Unfortunately i don't have a rest button. I found the problem which made no sense but the freon was low. I added about 10 oz. and fixed the problem. I did add a sealer since there must be a leak. Hope it seals. Thanks for all the help!!!!
Great you found the problem.. Hopefully the problem does not come back anytime soon.

On the button side, I do not have it either and why I advice to press the AUTO button instead. Do you have the AC control as this one:


That is the one I have been working with. Not certain why it is in this model since it seems is the standard for the W219 (CLS500/55). Perhaps because it is the Elegance model?

Anyways, if you press AUTO until the display changes, you can monitor several diagnostics as I posted in the separate thread.

NOTE: In the MB AC service manual, they are extremely emphatic about not using SEALANT in the AC system. For those dealers that do, they request to add a STAMP under the hood for the next service person to be aware of it, and they will not accept any dealer warranty claims on AC parts when sealant has been used.



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Old Jul 24, 2022 | 12:05 PM
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Thanks for that Juanmor40. I will check it out!!!!!
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Old Jul 24, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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Thanks for that Juanmor40. I will check it out!!!!!
If you do get into the hidden menu, I will deeply appreciate it if you log the registers from 00->10. As I mentioned before, I am working on an AC issue, and the register's value of a working AC system will be of great help.
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 06:30 PM
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Hey Juanmor40, sorry for the late response. I haunt been home. I took the lazy way out and didn't connect the gauges to check the pressures. I just had a small gauge that just tells you if its low or too high and i just gave it about 8 oz of Freon and it works perfectly.
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 06:57 PM
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I just tried in entering the hidden menu and it didn't work
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 03:41 PM
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Update, I added about 7oz of Freon and a sealer but after 7 days the left side is starting to take a bit longer to cool again but after that its ice cold. I must have a leak.
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 03:58 PM
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What kind of tools do you have to diagnose the vehicle? MB specific scanner? Laptop and willing to install MB specific software?

Guessing what the fault maybe is going to cost you $$, and some frustrations.

I am currently diagnosing a W211, and even though it seems not to cool well at times, I can get it to nearly freeze the cabin. You need to be able to read data from the computers, or gauges to properly diagnose it.

Would you mind posting a photo of the AC control unit on the dashboard? We (forum members) can then understand what system is in your vehicle (your VIN number would help as well)
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 11:00 PM
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Of course, I am using a icarsoft MBII, my vin is WDBUF56X47B084323

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heat against mildew!

Originally Posted by lotusing
My 07 E350 is acting a little odd. When i first start the car in this heat it takes a lot longer for the air to get cold, more than ever, but once its working its ice cold.. The other issue is that left side isn't coming out cold but not hot either.. I plugged in the computer and all the flapper doors are working normal. What is going on?
One can guess the AAC computer evaporates condensed moisture from your A/C evap to prevent mildew smell

I would not be surprised to read something like...
after A/C shuts off HVAC cavity gets heated until AAC is satified with evap temp sensor and cabin moisture sensor located near the windshield rain sensor.

Once we've understood the above, we can cut the HVAC some slack for residual heat that was used for drying.



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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 12:59 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lotusing
Of course, I am using a icarsoft MBII, my vin is WDBUF56X47B084323

scanner , can you post the ACC module values when the car is warm, outside, and steady @2000rpm, maxcool setting and recycling ON?

Looking for refrigerant pressure >12 bar, evaporator temp @5-9C, radiator electric fan speed @70%. If you also have AC pressure gauges, you should be looking for low side 30-45psi, and high side >180psi, but smaller than 225psi. Low side between 45 and 70 psi hints to trouble in suction side. If you can measure the low/high side before using g the AC would also help. If the system was off for a while, pressures should be identical

From VIN, and the photo it seems it is a 2-zone Tempmatic system which does not have the hidden menu

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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 11:36 PM
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Juanmor40, I didn't forget about you. I have been away and will try to get the info to you tomorrow
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Old Aug 4, 2022 | 09:10 AM
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Here is a section of a larger MB AC manual I have not been able to find, hope it helps
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 05:36 PM
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I hope this helps. Sorry for the delay. Have been out of town and now back
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What was the temperature setting? Lowest possible? Doors closed?
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 08:02 PM
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Doors closed, 90c and 20 mins
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 08:19 PM
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Lowest interior ac temp? 68 f
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