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Old Oct 28, 2023 | 02:41 PM
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E320 CDI refuel from a can - what a mess!

What is the trick to this to prevent diesel from going everywhere but into the tank? Believe there was a thread on this many moons ago but can't find it.

Maybe a longer spout than "normal" is needed due to the configuration of the filler neck. Seems the diesel went in the filler neck about 6 inches then went into reverse!

Second "flap" in the filler neck or something?
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 02:42 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 07:35 AM
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Sorry never had to do it that way so far, but maybe this will give a bump to your post?
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 08:10 AM
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You're probably pouring fuel from one of those contemporary whiz-bang high tech ventless fuel cans equipped with so many safety features that they are hazardous to use. I bought one about a year ago and so many of these safety lockouts malfunctioned , I tossed it into the trash.

The story is that several years ago, some moron was carelessly pouring gasoline into his lawnmower and the fuel can's unrestricted flow dumped onto the hot engine. A fire and injuries resulted, so a team of lawyers sued, bankrupted the fuel can company, and ventless fuel cans became the law of the land.

These new cans are designed so that fuel trickes out so slowly that it takes 20 minutes to pour 5 gallons, and fuel spills are common. I've retrofitted my fuel cans with conventional pour spouts and added vents to them, and they're now safe to use.
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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Figured it out this weekend......DUH!

I was actually using an old school Wavian NATO can and spout, but made the mistake of using the "short" (2" past the restrictor reach) clamp on spout rather than the longer (3 1/2" past the restrictor) one.

I had used the longer spout on the CDI in the past with no problems, then mistakenly used a can with the short one..........

On the E320 CDI (2006) there is a flap a few inches past the initial restrictor that the short spout didn't make it past...........UGH.

I also added some fuel rated tubing to the longer spout to make handling the can while pouring / staying clear of the bodywork easier.

Thanks for the bump........maybe someone else can learn from my messy mistake.





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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 12:15 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 06:14 PM
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Question

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whats a NATO can, as i usually fuel up at a filling station and dont own a tank or missile launcher
You have an Army tag on your profile and don't know what a NATO fuel (Jerry) can is.............?
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Plutoe
whats a NATO can, as i usually fuel up at a filling station and dont own a tank or missile launcher
Here's couple of my Jerry (or Gerry) NATO cans:

Watching couple of old WWII movies closely will help to realize why it is called Jerry can!



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Sceptre makes these containers in plastic for gasoline (red) and diesel (yellow).
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Originally Posted by streborx
Sceptre makes these containers in plastic for gasoline (red) and diesel (yellow).

Hah, not quite the same!







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All cans sold in the U.S. are ventless (see my post above explaining why). I replaced these goofy dangerous pour spouts with aftermarket caps, vent plugs and conventional pour spouts to make the cans usable and safe (at least for me). Several years ago I had a couple of the metal cans that I'd carry off-road on my Jeep. These older metal cans had rolled seam bottoms that eventually began leaking from all the rock and roll. I notice that the metal cans shown above have two halves welded together along a center seam. Much likely a far better design, but I still prefer the plastic (they don't dent or rust where the paint wears away)

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I store diesel in 4 of these old NATO cans for the generator and the van. I think they're at least 20 years old. I modified the spout with a longer 3/4" hose to make pouring into the tank easier.



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The NATO guy must be from Bulgaria or some God for saken place where there are no gas stations as if someone had said Gerry or Jerry can I would have known wtf he was talking about,
but it is nice to know Jerry cans are available in plastic and multi colored.

I don't know what to say...


Bought my red 5 gallon NATO style Jerry cans 15 - 20 years ago, but this looks like a really cheap copy from who knows where?

eBay listing:

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The NATO guy must be from Bulgaria or some God for saken place where there are no gas stations as if someone had said Gerry or Jerry can I would have known wtf he was talking about,
but it is nice to know Jerry cans are available in plastic and multi colored.
NATO can cans have been a thing for 70 years. It's called a NATO can because it was standardized across all the member counties. Prior to that it was just the Jerry can. If it's plastic it's just another disposable fuel container.

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wgas I still think a copy is a xerox and a jerry can aka a NATO can wether plastic wood or metal and or multi colored is a jerry can and I still think the OP is from Bulgaria because who else would have started a thread about jerry cans aka NATO cans.
I'm from / in Texas. The U.S. is a member of NATO.

Some of us have mowers, chain saws, generators and the like, hence a need for quality fuel cans.

This thread originally was about refueling an E320 CDI from a "can" and the need for an appropriate spout for such - lesson learned.
Some of us also have fuel on hand for contingencies..........
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