US manual specs versus Euro manual
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US manual specs versus Euro manual
I have a 2004 E320 4-Matic and I was looking at the manual to see what it can tow. It said that towing is not recommended. I find that hard to believe. I know that much of the towing limitation is due to the wheelbase, and chassis of the car. However, the ML 320 which is basically the same power train (except that it has a 2 speed transfer case), is rated to tow 5,000 lbs. Even my old AUDI is rated to tow 2000 lbs.
I think that this is an example of MB considering the US consumer to be sue-happy and IQ challenged. They would just rather say it is not recommended so that they will not be liable for the stupid things Americans might do to their cars.
Can someone on the other side of the lake check their European version of the manual and see what an E320 (if you can list the other models please do so too) is rated to tow over there? I’ll be willing to be that it at least tells you that it can tow something.
I’m waiting with eager anticipation
Steven Aguirre
I think that this is an example of MB considering the US consumer to be sue-happy and IQ challenged. They would just rather say it is not recommended so that they will not be liable for the stupid things Americans might do to their cars.
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Can someone on the other side of the lake check their European version of the manual and see what an E320 (if you can list the other models please do so too) is rated to tow over there? I’ll be willing to be that it at least tells you that it can tow something.
I’m waiting with eager anticipation
Steven Aguirre
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The wait is over. Here it is:
Anhängelast gebremst = Trailer with brakes
Anhängelast ungebremst = Trailer without brakes
You have to convert from kilograms....
Anhängelast gebremst = Trailer with brakes
Anhängelast ungebremst = Trailer without brakes
You have to convert from kilograms....
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04 E320 4 Matic, 95 Audi S6, 99 Carrera 4 Cabrio, 12 Fiat 500 Sport, 00 BMW R1200C 10, BMW R1200R
Thanks a bunch!
I knew that it could tow quite a bit. Its over 4000 lbs for all the models. No on here in the US would believe that an E class can actually tow this much!
It is interesting (and supports my theory about the chassis being the limiting factor) that all the engines are rated for the same tongue weight and trailer towing (with and w/o brakes).
I wonder when the E400 CDI will come here. It must be a rocket!
Thanks again!
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It is interesting (and supports my theory about the chassis being the limiting factor) that all the engines are rated for the same tongue weight and trailer towing (with and w/o brakes).
I wonder when the E400 CDI will come here. It must be a rocket!
Thanks again!
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Oslo,
I find these stats most interesting seeing that they are not in the US manuals
Do you have the acceleration specs and the difference between the E320 4-matic and the standard E320? I have never found the difference. Also, you have not heard of any CDIs that will be 4-Matic? The only reason I still have a gasoline engine is the 4-matic.
Thanks a bunch again!
Steve Aguirre
How come your manual in German? You also don't have translate the headings, I speak German (I went to Uni. in Aachen and in Maastricht)
I find these stats most interesting seeing that they are not in the US manuals
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Do you have the acceleration specs and the difference between the E320 4-matic and the standard E320? I have never found the difference. Also, you have not heard of any CDIs that will be 4-Matic? The only reason I still have a gasoline engine is the 4-matic.
Thanks a bunch again!
Steve Aguirre
How come your manual in German? You also don't have translate the headings, I speak German (I went to Uni. in Aachen and in Maastricht)
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Originally Posted by SAguirre
How come your manual in German? You also don't have translate the headings, I speak German (I went to Uni. in Aachen and in Maastricht)
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thanks again
Sorry, but you are spoiling me. Is there a chart for the Top speed too? I think that these numbers are a little conservative by a bit more than .5 of a second. But I am curious about the top speed.
I guess that MBUSA thinks that these things are not intersting for the US drivers. I don't want to bother you again, so whenever and if you get to (please don't feel rushed or obligated) post whatever you have like this. When I get to my home computer, I will download these pics. I'm at work now (working really hard
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Thanks a million again!
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I guess that MBUSA thinks that these things are not intersting for the US drivers. I don't want to bother you again, so whenever and if you get to (please don't feel rushed or obligated) post whatever you have like this. When I get to my home computer, I will download these pics. I'm at work now (working really hard
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Thanks a million again!
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I think the differences have mostly to do with the towing hitch... in Europe, many types of towing hitches are available that are not legal in the US.
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Now that you mention it, the Euro hitches do look funny and have no chain hook ups. One reason why they must be illegal here is the lack of chain hook ups. Otherwise, I don't think that the Euro hitch is any stronger or weaker. I do know that in Germany there is no such thing as a class I, II, or III hitch with different size ***** depending on the class. My friends that had a Terrano (like a pathfinder in the US, kind of) had the same size hitch as a frind of mine with a Golf. This would allow one to hook something up to the Golf that would be too big for it.
Here the size fo the hitch and the type of ball and the car it is mouted on is really a mess.
Steve
Here the size fo the hitch and the type of ball and the car it is mouted on is really a mess.
Steve