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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:57 AM
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Supposedly, the single-slot player on my '05 E320 can read DVDs (so said the tech at the M-B delivery center at Sindelfingen). However, I've not yet managed to burn an MP3 DVD that can be read by the player.

What is the trick? DVD+R or -R discs? I've used Roxio V.6 software set to "make a disc for an MP3 player". The resulting DVD+R disc can be played with Windows Media Player on my PC, but the car returns "CD Error" when I insert the disc in the single-disc slot. I've also tried seting the Roxio software to produce data discs with .mp3 files and to produce a conventional music disc, with similar results.

Has anyone successfully burned MP3 files to a DVD? Suggestions/detailed instructions will be welcomed. Thanks.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by khaug
Supposedly, the single-slot player on my '05 E320 can read DVDs (so said the tech at the M-B delivery center at Sindelfingen). However, I've not yet managed to burn an MP3 DVD that can be read by the player.

What is the trick? DVD+R or -R discs? I've used Roxio V.6 software set to "make a disc for an MP3 player". The resulting DVD+R disc can be played with Windows Media Player on my PC, but the car returns "CD Error" when I insert the disc in the single-disc slot. I've also tried seting the Roxio software to produce data discs with .mp3 files and to produce a conventional music disc, with similar results.

Has anyone successfully burned MP3 files to a DVD? Suggestions/detailed instructions will be welcomed. Thanks.
Hi Karl,
There are lots of replies on this interesting topic, most of which will confirm that you can indeed burn Mp3's.

I personally threw away countless disc's that would play on anything other than my COMAND. I eventually used 'Nero' and it has never failed.

If you carry out a search on this subject you should be inundated with information.

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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by khaug
Supposedly, the single-slot player on my '05 E320 can read DVDs (so said the tech at the M-B delivery center at Sindelfingen). However, I've not yet managed to burn an MP3 DVD that can be read by the player.

What is the trick? DVD+R or -R discs? I've used Roxio V.6 software set to "make a disc for an MP3 player". The resulting DVD+R disc can be played with Windows Media Player on my PC, but the car returns "CD Error" when I insert the disc in the single-disc slot. I've also tried seting the Roxio software to produce data discs with .mp3 files and to produce a conventional music disc, with similar results.

Has anyone successfully burned MP3 files to a DVD? Suggestions/detailed instructions will be welcomed. Thanks.
It doesn't matter if you use DVD-R og +R. It will read both formats. If it can be read by WMP, I'm afraid to tell you that you have no DVD-drive in the single slot. Try to burn a CD the same way, and check if that will play.

Good luck

ps: Use DVD-RW or +RW. That will save you a lot of discs while trying....

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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 05:04 AM
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I eventually used 'Nero' and it has never failed.
I'm also using Nero 6.0. I tried Roxio on my Mac, and that worked as well. Never tried Roxio on a PC though.

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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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Were you able to get standard cd's to work? My roxio defaults to UDF file system, and I fond my cd's wouldnt work in the car, however would work in the PC. Once I changed the file system to ISO, then on the advanced tab used the long file name, I was able to get it to work.

I have no tried as of yet to burn a dvd with this, but its worth a shot.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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hi there

i am currently going through the motions of getting this to work and despite some initial comments on the subject i have been disappointed that no one has replied back.

it is absolutely true that the COMAND unit will play MP3 DVD's and it does it brilliantly however: -

1. the manual states that DVD should be burnt using the UDF format and as correctly idenitified by other people the unit will not read them at all
2. if a DVD is burnt using ISO (i use Nero 6) then it will read, however, you CANNOT see all of the folders, it states in the manual that you can see a maximum of 255 folders and in each, 255 files. this is the question i am still waiting to get answered (i have a dvd with a 141 folders and it only sees the first 60-80 folders, it also does not support multiple folder layers. for example, you cant create a folder music, put a folder labelled phil collins, and then within that, all of his albums. the car will see it, but it just lists one level of folders, this is easier to explain than to type!

i have a theory however, it states that the ISO format only supports files up to 2Gb in size, a blank DVD can be 4.7Gb or the new dual layer are 8.5Gb. i think the folder limitation is because it is only reading the first 2gb.... UDF supports more but as you know, this cannot be read by the COMAND unit!

this is going to be a problem for MB because people are going to cotton onto the fact that you can stick a lot of music on one disk and the manual is basically wrong!

i have contacted MB and i hope that all of you will do the same, that way we may be able to get this sorted, i know it is a feature i want!

i hope that helps, if only to outline where i have got to

Kerry
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Thanks to all who've replied this far.

John: I did, indeed, do a search on "DVD", but, alas, found no useful information. If you can point me at a specific post you're familiar with, I'll be most appreciative.

Oslo: The vehicle is an '05, built in 8/04. I was told at MB's kundencenter that it would play DVDs. However, it will play MP3s I've burned onto CDRs, so you may be correct. Interestingly, our home DVD player, which will play MP3 CDs and should play MP3 DVDs will not play the MP3 DVD+Rs I've burned so far, leading me to hope the problem lies somewhere with my technique or software.

Kerryburn: I'll try burning a DVD using the ISO format and Nero (I have an older version of Nero) and see what happens. I'll post back when I've had success (or more failures!).
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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I use Nero 6 with -r media (write once).
The only problem that I have had that the head unit could not read them was that I did not finalise the disk.
I use Nero 6 just as a DATA disk.
Make the folders on the hard drive (no sub foders thats a folder in a folder) import the mp3 files into the required folder then make sure you have no multi session and nero is set finalise so no more data can be added to the disk then burn.

Good luck.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by khaug
John: I did, indeed, do a search on "DVD", but, alas, found no useful information. If you can point me at a specific post you're familiar with, I'll be most appreciative.
Hi Karl,
I have just carried out a search for 'Mp3' just in the E211 forum and it has come up with four pages of seperate threads. Some of these thread have over 150 messages, so it is quite a 'long' job to read through them all.

I have highlighted one thread that might be of use.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...&highlight=Mp3


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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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It can be frustrating..

I have made a few CD-Rs with MP3s. One didn't work because I stupidly deleted the file extensions (.mp3) when I renamed the files on the CD. Another has problems because the files were too compressed and low quality.
I guess like everything else worthwhile, there is a learning curve.

I don't have a computer that can record to DVD yet. The next one will have that feature.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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I have made a few CD-Rs with MP3s. One didn't work because I stupidly deleted the file extensions (.mp3) when I renamed the files on the CD. Another has problems because the files were too compressed and low quality.
I guess like everything else worthwhile, there is a learning curve.

I don't have a computer that can record to DVD yet. The next one will have that feature.
You are experiancing the most common problems.

If you deleted the file extension, COMAND had no way knowing what kind of file it is. If you compress them too much, then all you hear are clicks.

My car has about 230 hours of driving on it and I have enjoyed about 150 hours of DVD-audio from it.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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I don't have a computer that can record to DVD yet. The next one will have that feature.
Why not just add a DVD Burner for as little as $50 or less.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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If you compress them too much, then all you hear are clicks.
Yes, that's what you'd hear, but somehow it can actually cause other things to happen. It has caused my car to shut down entirely, twice. Somehow it can confuse the car's computer. Because of that, I burn my disc as slow as I can, which in my case it 4x. I have come to realize that the car's DVD reader sometimes has problems with discs that were burned at high speeds. Also, I recompress Variable Bit Rate tracks to no higher than 256 bps. It has appeared to me that the tracks the DVD reader mostly had a problem with were VBR MP3's. Now, all is well, no clicks, and no computer problems.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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My COMAND manual makes no mention of being capable of reading DVD's at all. It can definitely play MP3's on a CDR (which is what I've been using). The 3-5-7 trick also doesn't work on mine so that is another reason why I am concluding I don't have a DVD drive. It even gives me a "Compact Disc" logo when selecting CD from the Audio menu which also leads me to believe that it doesn't have a DVD drive.

My car is a MY2005, 07/04 Build.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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The manual (at least those printed to date) does not refer to the single disk player as a DVD.

The 357 code has nothing to do with DVD MP3.

There is (currently) no DVD logo on the 2005 US E-class models.

Which all means nothing as to whether your car is equipped with a DVD player or not. I'm thinking that MB had no real intention of offering a DVD player. But, who makes a CD only player anymore? The market is filled with DVD players that also play CD. The manufacturing cost of a DVD player is so cheap that it's probably not worth making a CD only player because there is no longer a market for it. So, when MB's optical disk vendor filled their order for a zillion CD players, they just as well provided DVD players. And, MB, not being electronically astute, didn't promote this as an advantage for their consumers. So, they didn't update their manuals or logo in the software. That's my speculation.

That would also explain why the DVD player is as inferior as it is. It was probably never meant to be a DVD. But, since it was wiser for the vendor to make DVD players instead of CD-only players, they added only minimum DVD specs while CD specs are hard to screw up these days. So, MB got what they wanted, a good CD player, but they also got a DVD player, albiet a rather lousy DVD player.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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I guess I'll give it a try when I get home tonight. That will be so awesome if it works. I'm already enjoying my MP3 CD's so I can't even imaging how cool it will be to have an MP3 DVD!

I guess I'll have to buy the new Nero 6 since that's what seems to be working.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Yahoo!!!

Success! The magic formula was:

-Nero 6 set to burn an ISO Data DVD

-Generic DVD+R disc

-VBR (Variable Bit Rate) MP3 files at the "higest" quality setting, converted from .WAV files by using CoolEdit software.

So far, I've only tried a test disc with three folders with 12-13 files each, but the system reads them just fine and they sound great.

FWIW, I couldn't get my Roxio 6 software to produce a playable DVD, no matter how I set it. And trying to use Nero to produce a normal MP3 disc didn't work either. Also, FWIW, our home DVD player will not play the successful test disc, although it will play MP3 files I've burned onto a CD!

Many thanks to all who contributed to my success, particularly John, Oslo and Kerryburn. Couldn't have done it without ya!
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Jocko
Yes, that's what you'd hear, but somehow it can actually cause other things to happen. It has caused my car to shut down entirely, twice. Somehow it can confuse the car's computer. Because of that, I burn my disc as slow as I can, which in my case it 4x. I have come to realize that the car's DVD reader sometimes has problems with discs that were burned at high speeds. Also, I recompress Variable Bit Rate tracks to no higher than 256 bps. It has appeared to me that the tracks the DVD reader mostly had a problem with were VBR MP3's. Now, all is well, no clicks, and no computer problems.
I can't see how it shuts down the rest of the car UNLESS COMAND thinks that somehow you are reprogramming something and goes into safe mode.

My nightmare with all these electronics is that one day we will all start to experience electrical problems. It doesn't take anything more then an errant spark or a short to cofuse the management system and then all kinds of stupid things can happen.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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Shuts down because you placed a DVD in the CD drive?
Ok, buddy. If that is true, you have a lemon and should get it replaced. NO FAILURE ON THE COMMAND UNIT WILL SHUT THE CAR OFF! Not even safe mode. The worst that can happen is to have the electricals redirected to vital organs only (i.e. car runs). LOL!!!

Anyhow,
DVDs work for sure in the single slot. DO NOT USE THE DOUBLE DENSITY AS THEY ARE TOO THICK!
I use Microsoft Windows XP, and simply copy the .mp3 files to the DVD, and tell it to "burn" as a data disk. All works well. It does not like folders inside of folders, but it does pull the inside folders out. Let me explain that. I placed 2 folders (each an album) inside of a single folder (artist's name). I also happenned to place some random .mp3s from that artist into the top layer folder. The car showed it as three folders. Kinda odd, but now I've learned.

As far as how many it can read and compression rates, I am still investigating. I am having no issues w/ bit rates over 300, but I do notice a little delay in response at times (from the unit). Guess it has something to do with buffering, dunno.

I wish someone would do a nice writeup of this feature and the full facts behind it. It really is awesome to have so many hours of music on one disk. I am only at about 50 folders, but man it is awesome!
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 02:29 AM
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I'm so happy it worked! I just used Nero 6 (Demo version) and didn't change any of the settings except I selected not to burn multisessions. Every folder displayed perfectly and I have over 1000 songs altogether and didn't even fill up the disc. Unfortunately that was all the songs I had on my computer. I'm going to start ripping all of my CD's and just putting them all on one DVD. This is awesome!
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Hi all,

I've been reading many posts on this topic and they (for the most part) have been quite helpful.

Just a data point, I have a 2005 E500 (build date 5/04) and have found out the following after playing around quite a bit...
1) CD player in HU plays MP3 CDs AND DVDs. However, only if they are burned as ISO9660. I pick the long file name option, but the names can't have spaces. Ideas anyone? I use Roxio v. 7.
2) I can play MP3 CDs in the 6-disk changer. However, it only sees the first 99 mp3 files even if they're all in folders. In the 6-disk changer, I don't have the ability to navigate folders, just scroll up and down the 99 files.
3) I can do the 5-3-7 trick, and see the menus. The first one only shows US options. Hitting the Keybrd button brings up options that allow ECE. I've selected the ECE but have seen nor heard no changes. I've waited overnight. I really want to hear the Brit chick, but still get the same American one. I did, however, get it to change to AMG211 and got the AMG logo.
3a) Using the above trick, I was not able to get the CD/DVD player in the HU to recognize a DVD movie like some have.

As a side note, for music I experimented with burning MP3 files to +RW DVD media (Verbatim) and it works everytime for me. Not only did/does this save a lot of money (coasters), I can change the songs after a while and not have to keep burning new DVDs.

Oh, one last thing... My documentation for Command nor the owners manual does not say anything about MP3 playback. I can't believe this, as this is a tremendous feature. If anyone has a link to the latest COMMAND documentation, I'd greatly appreciate it. I have the one for the owners manual and it's the same as the one in the booklet that came with the car.

GL all,
Tom
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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I concur with everything you stated except my COMAND manual does make mention of playing MP3's just not on DVD's.

To get the Brit chick to talk to you there is another "secret" menu that I got into once but can't remember the keystokes. If there is any ambitious people out there that want to try it I do remember getting into it while first attempting to get into the 3-5-7 menu and hit that menu by accident. I think I was pressing the NAV and MAP buttons as well. This menu gave me the option to choose the language (English - UK) or something to that effect which gave me a nice British-accented navigator. I didn't let the COMAND reboot so the changes didn't stick but I definitely heard her speak after I made the changes.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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I've been reading many posts on this topic and they (for the most part) have been quite helpful.
Read more threads. All your questions have been answered at least a million times.

1) I have no idea what you are doing wrong. Spaces should not be a problem.

2) The manual says that the CDC will only list and play the first 99 tracks/folders.

3) The 357 trick on the '05 does not have W211-ECE for a model, only for the keyboard, which means nothing will change. This has been discussed in this forum a million times.

3a) The '05 does not come with the necessary hardware (most notably, a video decoder chip). There is no way you will be able to view DVD's unless you replace the entire head unit. This has been discussed more than anything else in this forum.

Oh, one last thing... My documentation for Command nor the owners manual does not say anything about MP3 playback. I can't believe this, as this is a tremendous feature.
Dunno why. It's all in my manual (sans DVD MP3). Perhaps your vehicle was a very early '05 build?
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