Random Shutdown Behavior
1) When I turn the ignition on, sometimes no dashboard light comes on for 2-3 seconds. Then everything behaves normally. At other times, the car stays dead and I have to turn the key off or even remove it and retry before it starts behaving normally.
2) While driving, the car suddenly turns off. I then shift to neutral and turn the key off and then on. The engine then restarts allowing me to bring the car to a halt safely. This has happened 3-4 times over the past year.
The car drives well with no other problems. It has done over 160,000 km and has been properly maintained at home. I have DAS/Xentry software that shows no faults other than a stuck wiper motor once in a while. The wipers work just fine, however, and I am able to clear the fault code easily and resume my normal routine.
The random shutdown behavior is very worrisome. Any help in diagnosing the problem would be hugely appreciated.




The hard part is to reproduce random failures to confirm the root cause without new parts.
Use a schematic to trace the power supply from ALT > Prefuse > SAM > ... (EIS / ECU /...) ??
Solderless modules may be delivering this challenge.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; May 28, 2026 at 08:59 AM.
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*** Interesting to note: After taking the readings with the headlights on, I tried to start the car. The dash lights did not come on, and nothing happened on turning the switch. On the third try, everything came on and the car started! Does this give any idea?
Ignition off.
Ignition off. Low beam on.
Ignition off. Low and high beams on.
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*** Interesting to note: After taking the readings with the headlights on, I tried to start the car. The dash lights did not come on, and nothing happened on turning the switch. On the third try, everything came on and the car started! Does this give any idea?
Ignition off.
Ignition off. Low beam on.
Ignition off. Low and high beams on.
You don't need another battery as long as you don't let it get drained out while parked.
One of your SAM relay is in charge of pwr mgt thats failing - Use diagram to walk through favorite suspects.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; May 29, 2026 at 08:59 PM.




The starter battery does not do much after starting while Alternator is powering all consumers.
The starter circuit is pretty simple - You don't need any diagram to test with your bidirectional $140 scanner.
- Check and clean the battery ground strap to chassis and all ground connections
- Go ahead and proactively replace Circuit 15 relay with OEM part
- Try another key (why not if you haven't done so already)
- Check and clean the battery ground strap to chassis and all ground connections
- Go ahead and proactively replace Circuit 15 relay with OEM part
- Try another key (why not if you haven't done so already)
Not sure where the circuit 15 relay is and whether it is applicable to the W211.
Both keys have been checked and their batteries replaced. No change.
I removed and reinstalled all the relays in the engine fuse/relay box. No change. Ignition still showed the delayed behavior before turning on.
I then removed and reinstalled the ECU connector. It seemed to make an immediate difference, and the ignition came on immediately on turning the key. Engine started cleanly.
I will recheck the system tomorrow (Let it sleep and then re-check). I will post an update if the problem gets resolved.




I removed and reinstalled all the relays in the engine fuse/relay box. No change. Ignition still showed the delayed behavior before turning on.
I then removed and reinstalled the ECU connector. It seemed to make an immediate difference, and the ignition came on immediately on turning the key. Engine started cleanly.
I will recheck the system tomorrow (Let it sleep and then re-check). I will post an update if the problem gets resolved.
You need to clear faulted modules to regain normal processing.
Your target is to have ALL significant faults worked out.
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The advantage of having a simple model is not having codes thrown at random. No codes were triggered and the car is behaving well other than the delay on startup. Basically, the problem has not been identified or resolved, and I still dread having the electronics die on the highway. I am planning a longish drive today, but I expect a reverse Murphy: when you expect something to go wrong, nothing will! Let's see.




The advantage of having a simple model is not having codes thrown at random.
No codes were triggered and the car is behaving well other than the delay on startup.
Basically, the problem has not been identified or resolved, and I still dread having the electronics die on the highway.
I am planning a longish drive today, but I expect a reverse Murphy: when you expect something to go wrong, nothing will! Let's see.
Use a scanner to retrieve codes.
Do not drive on public roads expecting failure, it's seriously dangerous.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Jun 1, 2026 at 04:30 AM.
1) When I turn the ignition on, sometimes no dashboard light comes on for 2-3 seconds. Then everything behaves normally. At other times, the car stays dead and I have to turn the key off or even remove it and retry before it starts behaving normally.
2) While driving, the car suddenly turns off. I then shift to neutral and turn the key off and then on. The engine then restarts allowing me to bring the car to a halt safely. This has happened 3-4 times over the past year.
The car drives well with no other problems. It has done over 160,000 km and has been properly maintained at home. I have DAS/Xentry software that shows no faults other than a stuck wiper motor once in a while. The wipers work just fine, however, and I am able to clear the fault code easily and resume my normal routine.
The random shutdown behavior is very worrisome. Any help in diagnosing the problem would be hugely appreciated.
I had a Sprinter with Sprintshift which would occasionally die. Sometimes it would restart immediatedly and sometimes it would be U/S for days! The only fault showing was random injector failures. It turned out to be the loss of all 3 power supply leads to the engine computer. Perhaps if you look at your schematics you will find a connection which takes power off your wipers and can shut down the vehicle engine. Just a thought.
Last edited by namalik; Jun 2, 2026 at 05:34 AM.
I had a Sprinter with Sprintshift which would occasionally die. Sometimes it would restart immediatedly and sometimes it would be U/S for days! The only fault showing was random injector failures. It turned out to be the loss of all 3 power supply leads to the engine computer. Perhaps if you look at your schematics you will find a connection which takes power off your wipers and can shut down the vehicle engine. Just a thought.











