How much do you use your V8???
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
How can a President decide what private companies should charge the consumer.... If you mean the President should add additional taxes to a gallon of gas, the government accomplishes nothing more the bigger it gets, so the additional taxes will only be wasted. Private industry and cost of goods/profits & the laws of supply & demand are irrefutable models. Whenever they are manually altered nothing good happens
This is the land of Free Enterprise, private ownership, and individual success.
This is the land of Free Enterprise, private ownership, and individual success.
This is the land of Free Enterprise, private ownership, and individual success. Opposite to what?
I promised in my last thread not to start a discussion over this, so here I go:
http://inside.bard.edu/politicalstud...3/kyotocol.htm
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There is a saying that goes, "Money talks, wealth wispers". I'm not sure what words to replace "money and "wealth" in this discussion between V6 and V8, but I think the 500 has a quiet confidence about it.
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I would go for the V8 again. While I don't necessarily open it up and use it in that way, it is very convenient doing normal urban driving. And I just love the joy of being able to effortlessly accelerate to my desired speed. No muss, no fuss. Which is really what having a luxury car is for in the first place.
But, the 6 will certainly move the car easily. And in a lot of typical driving actions, you will see no sizable difference.
And RJC hit it right on the head.
But, the 6 will certainly move the car easily. And in a lot of typical driving actions, you will see no sizable difference.
And RJC hit it right on the head.
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Originally Posted by Oslo
This is the land of Free Enterprise, private ownership, and individual success. Opposite to what?
I promised in my last thread not to start a discussion over this, so here I go:
http://inside.bard.edu/politicalstud...3/kyotocol.htm
I promised in my last thread not to start a discussion over this, so here I go:
http://inside.bard.edu/politicalstud...3/kyotocol.htm
As for the topic: IMHO, there is no comparison between driving an E320 and E500 in terms of performance - they are worlds apart. I settled on the 8-cylinder after test driving a C240, C320, E320 and E500.
The sheer exhilaration experienced from its quiet (compared to the 320's) acceleration was the main thing for me, in addition to the car just feeling more "substantial" with its suspension.
Just my 2 cents.
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2004 E500
Originally Posted by PUZZ1
There is a saying that goes, "Money talks, wealth wispers". I'm not sure what words to replace "money and "wealth" in this discussion between V6 and V8, but I think the 500 has a quiet confidence about it.
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Sounds like one of our European friends might be a bit jealous of our low gas prices... :p It's OK to be a little jealous, I'm jealous of some things you guy's have too 
We just bought a new 2005 Touareg (the G/F's car) with the V6 240hp/228 trq; for a 5100 lb vehilcle it does ok and its fine for what we use it for, HOWEVER, if I felt like spending the extra $$$ I would have gotten the V8 in a heart-beat or for that matter the V10tdi.
I also think it depends on what model MB you might be driving as some are sportier than others and others are a lot heavier too, a four door c class with the 3.2 is a decent performing car, but would you want an Sl with the 3.2 or an S class sedan or a CL? probably not. Now when the new 3.5 comes in to play things begin to change, but still, given the option and if the extra $'s for the engine or fuel were not an issue, most everyone would go for the V8 or for that matter the kompressor 8 or TT12.
I own a CLK500, if I did not cap the cost of the car at $60k I would have easily went for the 55, do I need the extra 62hp? no but it sure is a blast to drive
As I mentioned earlier we American's love large displacement engines (and other things LOL) renown for their low end torque that shoves you into the seat plus that V8 rumble, MB has done a great job tuning the exhaust on the Sl and CLK 500's etc for a sweet V8 sounds let alone the AMG cars.
Either way we all love our cars and whatever your individual circumstances are, just enjoy the pleasure of driving an MB
PS The touareg is one sweet ride and very well built.
We just bought a new 2005 Touareg (the G/F's car) with the V6 240hp/228 trq; for a 5100 lb vehilcle it does ok and its fine for what we use it for, HOWEVER, if I felt like spending the extra $$$ I would have gotten the V8 in a heart-beat or for that matter the V10tdi.
I also think it depends on what model MB you might be driving as some are sportier than others and others are a lot heavier too, a four door c class with the 3.2 is a decent performing car, but would you want an Sl with the 3.2 or an S class sedan or a CL? probably not. Now when the new 3.5 comes in to play things begin to change, but still, given the option and if the extra $'s for the engine or fuel were not an issue, most everyone would go for the V8 or for that matter the kompressor 8 or TT12.
I own a CLK500, if I did not cap the cost of the car at $60k I would have easily went for the 55, do I need the extra 62hp? no but it sure is a blast to drive
As I mentioned earlier we American's love large displacement engines (and other things LOL) renown for their low end torque that shoves you into the seat plus that V8 rumble, MB has done a great job tuning the exhaust on the Sl and CLK 500's etc for a sweet V8 sounds let alone the AMG cars.
Either way we all love our cars and whatever your individual circumstances are, just enjoy the pleasure of driving an MB
PS The touareg is one sweet ride and very well built.
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I had an E320 loaner and I had some fun with it.. While the E320 has a lot of power (almost double) what my previous car had the E500 has a lot of power. I have driven the 5 speed and the 7 speed really makes a difference as well.
Interestingly the SL brochure has the 0-60 time listed as (see dealer as this is the 2003 time). The 2003 had a 5 speed. I would really like to know if anyone has ever taken the 7 speed to the track and timed it as I am sure it is a bit faster then the stated speed and that they (Mercedes) rounds up / dumbs down their figures to put a larger gap between the E500 and E55 and SL500 and SL55. Although I am sure the E55 is faster then their stated time as well.
Interestingly the SL brochure has the 0-60 time listed as (see dealer as this is the 2003 time). The 2003 had a 5 speed. I would really like to know if anyone has ever taken the 7 speed to the track and timed it as I am sure it is a bit faster then the stated speed and that they (Mercedes) rounds up / dumbs down their figures to put a larger gap between the E500 and E55 and SL500 and SL55. Although I am sure the E55 is faster then their stated time as well.
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A lot of good points were brought up here! I personally am very happy with my E320 (in spite of the 4 Matic's drag which is almost not noticeable). I have lived out of the US for 15 years of my 31 years and I would find it very hard to explain to all my friends outside the US why I need the V8. However, I don’t feel as if I have to answer to them anyway. I drove the E500, the E320 CDI and the E320 4 Matic. All three of these cars are a world apart from every US domestic car! They are great performers (all Es). Of the three, I would have taken the CDI, but again NO 4 MATIC!!! 
I climb over mountain passes (going from about 5,000 feet to about 11,000 feet) at least 6 times a month. The E320 can sustain itself in 5th gear at 3,000 rpms all the way to the top of the passes! I know the 500 or the CDI would also do it with greater ease, but the E320 is still miles ahead of most all the other cars on the road!
I can easily afford an E500 4 Matic, but I find it hard to convince myself that I truly need it. Also, it is nice to have a very well equipped E320 4 Matic and have no car payments. However, when a V6 CDI 4 Matic comes, I might just get it!!!
Steve
I climb over mountain passes (going from about 5,000 feet to about 11,000 feet) at least 6 times a month. The E320 can sustain itself in 5th gear at 3,000 rpms all the way to the top of the passes! I know the 500 or the CDI would also do it with greater ease, but the E320 is still miles ahead of most all the other cars on the road!
I can easily afford an E500 4 Matic, but I find it hard to convince myself that I truly need it. Also, it is nice to have a very well equipped E320 4 Matic and have no car payments. However, when a V6 CDI 4 Matic comes, I might just get it!!!
Steve
