column shifter and floor shifter ?
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K-A, I believe you mean a floor shifter? Here is the link to pic of the interior of the 2010 E63 sedan.
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/3/l...e63-amg_12.jpg
looks like a floor shifter!
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/3/l...e63-amg_12.jpg
looks like a floor shifter!
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This is the one from the E350 Wheel Package. It's the same wheel thats standard in all the other U.S. spec AMG cars (the exception being the G55). I'm thinking it will probably be in the E63 as well, all the photos released so far seem to be of euro spec pre-production cars. Or they could be trying to weasel even more money out of E63 buyers by making them upgrade to the Wheel Package. Although on the E350 its a pretty good deal as you get not only the steering wheel, but 18'' AMG wheels to go with it for $750.
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K-A, I believe you mean a floor shifter? Here is the link to pic of the interior of the 2010 E63 sedan.
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/3/l...e63-amg_12.jpg
looks like a floor shifter!
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/3/l...e63-amg_12.jpg
looks like a floor shifter!
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K-A, I believe you mean a floor shifter? Here is the link to pic of the interior of the 2010 E63 sedan.
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/3/l...e63-amg_12.jpg
looks like a floor shifter!
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/3/l...e63-amg_12.jpg
looks like a floor shifter!
I would never call a lame column shifter "proper".
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LOL
Btw, OT, but I always find your quotes interesting. Also, what is the picture in your avatar with the mouse?
Back on topic, from what I've heard about this new "AMG" tranny, it sounds very interesting. Something that can finally compete against the M's DCT.
I also agree with Diesel Benz, it does free up a lot of space to have the column shifter. And if all column shifters come with the paddle shifters, it should make things a little better. Anyone ever try out Jaguar's new shifter in the XF/XK with the knob?
Btw, OT, but I always find your quotes interesting. Also, what is the picture in your avatar with the mouse?
Back on topic, from what I've heard about this new "AMG" tranny, it sounds very interesting. Something that can finally compete against the M's DCT.
I also agree with Diesel Benz, it does free up a lot of space to have the column shifter. And if all column shifters come with the paddle shifters, it should make things a little better. Anyone ever try out Jaguar's new shifter in the XF/XK with the knob?
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LOL
Btw, OT, but I always find your quotes interesting. Also, what is the picture in your avatar with the mouse?
Back on topic, from what I've heard about this new "AMG" tranny, it sounds very interesting. Something that can finally compete against the M's DCT.
I also agree with Diesel Benz, it does free up a lot of space to have the column shifter. And if all column shifters come with the paddle shifters, it should make things a little better. Anyone ever try out Jaguar's new shifter in the XF/XK with the knob?
Btw, OT, but I always find your quotes interesting. Also, what is the picture in your avatar with the mouse?
Back on topic, from what I've heard about this new "AMG" tranny, it sounds very interesting. Something that can finally compete against the M's DCT.
I also agree with Diesel Benz, it does free up a lot of space to have the column shifter. And if all column shifters come with the paddle shifters, it should make things a little better. Anyone ever try out Jaguar's new shifter in the XF/XK with the knob?
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Maybe I'm partial because I have an R, but I like the column shifter better than the console shifter. Every car company from Kia to Volkswagen has a console shifter. Once you get used to the column shifter (its electric and not like the column shifters of the past, you tap it up or down, no actual shifting) its quite nice and gives the car a more luxurious feel. Now in an E63, they should go the route of Ferrari and leave the gear changes to the paddles...or dare I say a real manual transmission!
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YouTube E63 video footage... around 1:40 mark shows console/floor shifter for 2010 E63... engine sounds nice.... still has an ugly butt though...maybe somebody will come out with a kit to make it look better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtg3bYm7al8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtg3bYm7al8
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YouTube E63 video footage... around 1:40 mark shows console/floor shifter for 2010 E63... engine sounds nice.... still has an ugly butt though...maybe somebody will come out with a kit to make it look better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtg3bYm7al8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtg3bYm7al8
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I agree, these should come with a manual gearbox. Perhaps the owners after all are more for comfort than sporty driving. I've seen claims that MB has not seen enough market for such a manual gear box that would handle the torque of these engines (this is why the bigger CDIs are not available with a manual transmission).
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I agree, these should come with a manual gearbox. Perhaps the owners after all are more for comfort than sporty driving. I've seen claims that MB has not seen enough market for such a manual gear box that would handle the torque of these engines (this is why the bigger CDIs are not available with a manual transmission).
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I think proposing to MB things they have superseded are going to find "encroachment". Why not shift with the paddles, controlled by buttons at the wheel a la F1? Also, propose them not only for "views" but for technology, such as is mentioned the case of the multi-disc clutch.
As for views, perhaps it would be a matter of sawing off the rear of a W212 in front of the MB Stuttgart Museum and burn it, together with a bench front seat so they get the idea. Of course, all within the law of the DR and with the necessary permits to demonstrate and do what is intended. It would no doubt attract their attention. They could even realize that the cab line should be an independent one, separate from the luxury sedans to avoid confusion and jokes.
Cheers, JV
As for views, perhaps it would be a matter of sawing off the rear of a W212 in front of the MB Stuttgart Museum and burn it, together with a bench front seat so they get the idea. Of course, all within the law of the DR and with the necessary permits to demonstrate and do what is intended. It would no doubt attract their attention. They could even realize that the cab line should be an independent one, separate from the luxury sedans to avoid confusion and jokes.
Cheers, JV
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The Lamborghini Murcielago has a manual trans option and well over 500hp, so MB should be able to develop or at least source a manual trans. Although most of these super cars are going to a dual clutch system that can change gears faster than any human. Would be nice to see Benz come up with something similar.
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Can't believe MB has a column shifter in a sedan. Shakin' my head in disbelief.
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The Lamborghini Murcielago has a manual trans option and well over 500hp, so MB should be able to develop or at least source a manual trans. Although most of these super cars are going to a dual clutch system that can change gears faster than any human. Would be nice to see Benz come up with something similar.
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I did not say they would not be able to develop and manufacture such a manual transmission, the speculation was about "not sufficient sales" to make it business for MB. Honestly, how many would buy the manual (I would but I could not afford buying the car, so you cannot count me).
