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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Are there any differences between the 2010 and the 2011? Just getting the basic luxury model with P1. I'm waiting for quotes from the dealer. I'm sure the 2010 will be less $. Thank you in advance....
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Not really. Biggest difference is you get standard LED daytime running lights with the P1 on the 2011's it seems. Also, the wheels on the Sport Package 2011's are different.
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Not really. Biggest difference is you get standard LED daytime running lights with the P1 on the 2011's it seems. Also, the wheels on the Sport Package 2011's are different.
So the duel fogs are gone? That sucks, now every 212 will have the hockey stick LEDS?
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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So the duel fogs are gone? That sucks, now every 212 will have the hockey stick LEDS?
Yup! How lame is THAT! Not only that, but the yellow halogens won't even match the white/blue LED's.

M-B seems to be trying to make every W212 look nearly identical to each other. That's my only real criticism of the W212, at least that actually bothers me.

The pre F.L W211 had like 3 different designations, that each had different body styling, fogs, wheels, etc. etc.
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Yup! How lame is THAT! Not only that, but the yellow halogens won't even match the white/blue LED's.

M-B seems to be trying to make every W212 look nearly identical to each other. That's my only real criticism of the W212, at least that actually bothers me.

The pre F.L W211 had like 3 different designations, that each had different body styling, fogs, wheels, etc. etc.
How ridiculous is that ?
I guess the duel fog ppl will have the exclusive rare look.. lol
What is MB thinking ? Hey, KA, do you see alot of 212s where you live?
There are plenty by me and every 1 has it in white!!!!!! lol
Also, you ever consider removing the chrome strips on the doors? Im thinking about it..
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ESIX3POWER
How ridiculous is that ?
I guess the duel fog ppl will have the exclusive rare look.. lol
What is MB thinking ? Hey, KA, do you see alot of 212s where you live?
There are plenty by me and every 1 has it in white!!!!!! lol
Also, you ever consider removing the chrome strips on the doors? Im thinking about it..
I know! Haha. Yeah, I'm starting to see them more and more, but they're still not everywhere yet. They will be though, like the W211, and W210 before it, lol.

And yes, White is definitely the most popular color, literally!!

Yeah, I thought about it, I actually like a little tasteful chrome, so I'm probably gonna leave it, but if you dig it, then go for it. It's these little "mods" that you gotta do, to personalize yours from the crowds (without spending lots of mod money, lol).

I just wish M-B didn't ***** out the AMG Package, so at least you can pay a little premium to have a "different" version than the masses. I was hoping at least the LED's would separate mine from the crowds a bit, but now, M-B ain't letting that happen, lol. Looks like the double fogs indeed will be the rarities.

One good thing is, I've finally started seeing more "Luxury" versions on the road, so hopefully that could help even things out, and keep the AMG Packaged ones able to hold the visual impact they're supposed to.
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2011 has some COMMAND improvements, better navigation, temperature gauges on LCD screen, different mirror. You need to check with dealer, rates for 2011 can be better and although price is higher you can still have a win for lease.
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2011 has some COMMAND improvements, better navigation, temperature gauges on LCD screen, different mirror. You need to check with dealer, rates for 2011 can be better and although price is higher you can still have a win for lease.
What do you mean Temperature gauges on the LCD Screen? They changed the temp gauges.
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You need to check with dealer, dema

thats funny, the one I went to seemed to know very little
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What do you mean Temperature gauges on the LCD Screen? They changed the temp gauges.
Supposedly you will be able to control the climate system from within the COMMAND system. You will be able to set the temperatures and which vents to blow air from all within COMMAND as well as to display the current settings on the screen; just like the S Class. And supposedly the nav. software will get an update also to display buildings in 3D; again like the S Class.
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I wonder if this is only a software change and that early 2011's can be upgraded?
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Are there any differences between the 2010 and the 2011? Just getting the basic luxury model with P1. I'm waiting for quotes from the dealer. I'm sure the 2010 will be less $. Thank you in advance....

I would shop the 2011 model also if you are leasing. The residual will be higher and that may offset the larger discount on the 2010. You should consider taking the sport package also. It is a no charge option and gives you 18"wheels, sport suspension and and a nicer,sportier exterior trim.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dema
2011 has some COMMAND improvements, better navigation, temperature gauges on LCD screen, different mirror. You need to check with dealer, rates for 2011 can be better and although price is higher you can still have a win for lease.
Hmm... My 2011 E550 has the new mirror, but no 3D Nav or Climate Control on the Command screen. Any idea when these are being cut in? I would suspect that the Command software can be updated for the new functions. The question would be free or fee.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Supposedly you will be able to control the climate system from within the COMMAND system. You will be able to set the temperatures and which vents to blow air from all within COMMAND as well as to display the current settings on the screen; just like the S Class.
You will not be able to control the HVAC from COMAND, it will only provide basic details (temp by zone, etc). These changes will be implemented in September production vehicles onward.
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I would shop the 2011 model also if you are leasing. The residual will be higher and that may offset the larger discount on the 2010. You should consider taking the sport package also. It is a no charge option and gives you 18"wheels, sport suspension and and a nicer,sportier exterior trim.
Actually I think out here, the Sport Package is technically "free", but you need to order the Wheel Package to get it ($750 or so). So it's practically free anyway.

I with M-B would charge $4K for it again.
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Actually I think out here, the Sport Package is technically "free", but you need to order the Wheel Package to get it ($750 or so). So it's practically free anyway.

I with M-B would charge $4K for it again.

All Sport Package cars have 18" wheels, luxury model has 17". The $750.00 option is the AMG wheel on the SP.
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Originally Posted by petee1997
I would shop the 2011 model also if you are leasing. The residual will be higher and that may offset the larger discount on the 2010. You should consider taking the sport package also. It is a no charge option and gives you 18"wheels, sport suspension and and a nicer,sportier exterior trim.
Trust me-MB is not giving away anything for free. It costs them the same to procure and install the Sports grill, suspension, front end, etc. as it does for the Luxury. In fact, Luxury has some trim not available on the Sports. Only costs difference is the 17" vs. 18" wheels and for them, that is not much.
They say it is free, but it is merely marketing.
It's like BMW and VW's "free maintenance." It ain't free; you pay for it when you purchase the car. It's just built into the price of the car.
BTW, I much prefer the four round fog/DRL's on my car to the "hockey stick" LED's.

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I do not know why production of 18" wheels is more expensive? It can take a bit more metal though, however tires get less rubber, so final assembly may cost the same.
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Originally Posted by El Cid
Trust me-MB is not giving away anything for free. It costs them the same to procure and install the Sports grill, suspension, front end, etc. as it does for the Luxury. In fact, Luxury has some trim not available on the Sports. Only costs difference is the 17" vs. 18" wheels and for them, that is not much.
They say it is free, but it is merely marketing.
It's like BMW and VW's "free maintenance." It ain't free; you pay for it when you purchase the car. It's just built into the price of the car.
BTW, I much prefer the four round fog/DRL's on my car to the "hockey stick" LED's.

I agree with you on a cost basis both cars would be the same or very close. However going back a few years it was quite an expensive upgrade for the AMG SP. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes optional at a later date. In Canada the SP was free on the coupe originally and now it is optional. It's a matter of preference and that is what I was expressing to the OP. In my case the point is moot. The W212 is not offered in the luxury model in Canada nor are the four round fog lights.

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Should have it beginning of Oct. I currently have the sport package. Now I wanted to go luxury.
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I'm getting it for about $49,500. I get a $2,000 additional discount because of USAA.

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Congratulations on the new car; think you will be happy with it. Studying/learning the COMAND manual was as bad as taking a course.
Got mine last November using the USAA discount. Got same options in Paladium Silver with gray interior.

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I have one question. Why the heated seats in South Florida?
I bought the car in Syracuse NY,,,, Anyhow my wife likes her buns warm sometime........
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I would be interested in seeing a picture of 289 Wood / Leather Steering Wheel.
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