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Old 11-20-2010, 09:09 AM
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Headlight adjustment

Don't really drive that much at night, but did notice my halogen lights didn't work as well as on previous cars.
Took it in for "A" service and had them adjust the beams. Advisor said they were at lowest level and they adjusted them to highest level.
Might be something those who stick with halogens can consider.
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Originally Posted by El Cid
Advisor said they were at lowest level and they adjusted them to highest level.
Might be something those who stick with halogens can consider.
Are you referring to the level of brightness - or the level they project out in front of the car?
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I think question is are they self leveling meaning are there motors that constantly re-aim the lights depending on the pitch of the car based on vehicle load, braking, accelerating potholes, etc. Because of the higher intensity and brightness of HID's - almost all mfr's that I know of (although my mdx being an exception) incorporate a system like this to help keep from flash blinding other drivers. On P2 cars, the lights move themselves up and down to counter pitch movement as well as left and right for turns. I'd also be curious if they are bi-xenon (xenon for low and hi beam)

All this aside - congrats on getting this done. Prices seems really reasonable for what you got.
No the retrofit xenons don't self level and they are not bi-xenon. They are still a HUGE improvement over the P1 halogen. They are set up real well and I have never had somebody "flash" me because the thought my high beams were on, or they were being blinded by my lights. If I could do it again, I would go P2...with that said, this is a great alternative for those of us that didnt.
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In the shop right now having them installed, Philly if there are any issues I'm "putting a curse" on all your sports teams!!

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Now.... that was funny!!! No worries...they have been cursed for years anyway. Enjoy the new lights!!! Long Live ELP...
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Got the conversion done today with the 6000 HID conversion (no resistors or capacitors), they look great in the garage (will try them out tonight), also did the inside parking lights so everything matches (they are a little trickier to fake out the computer so you don't have to use resistors/capacitors). $350 to do the HID, Sylvania Ultra Brights (in the brights) and parking lights, would have been $299 with the inside parking lights (BTW not sure I would have caught this if it wasn't for KA's comments in another thread, thanks KA), sorry no pictures.

BTW as Philly mentioned back in this thread I wouldn't recommend doing these yourself, the shop said a lot of guys come in after they screwed it up for help and it costs them a lot more than just having it done.

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Philly at least you won it in 2008!

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Congratulations FTB.Woo-woo...

The lights are going to be so bright you will need to...

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Thought it might be confusing

Originally Posted by BenzE350
Are you referring to the level of brightness - or the level they project out in front of the car?
They adjusted the distance the lights project out. Example: In garage, they now hit higher on the wall than before. This means they should light farther down the highway.
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Someone recommended a company called Luxury Details in Framingham, MA. They quoted me $250 installed - or $300 if a light out cancelling harness is needed.

Can someone tell me the questions I should ask to make sure I am getting the best HID retrofit for my car? The price sounds too low so red flags are going up in my mind.

Thanks for helping.

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also did the inside parking lights so everything matches (they are a little trickier to fake out the computer so you don't have to use resistors/capacitors). $350 to do the HID, Sylvania Ultra Brights (in the brights) and parking lights, would have been $299 with the inside parking lights !
Could you please explain what this means?
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If you look at the P1 inside (inner eye) parking lights, they use regular bulbs. If you look at the P2 HID cars inner parking lights, you'll see this cool shiny "disco ball" looking projector thing. I think that's what he means. It looks a lot cooler, and of course, projects a much more intense and bright light.

O/T, but I was studying the differences between the P2 lights and the P1 lights. Not only does P2 HID's go further than simply dual HID's and projector HID inner parking lights (as well as the adaptive high beam, and turn lights), but the whole structure is different in design. I noticed some extra lights in there (might have been the turn-by-turn bulbs, and one thing I haven't heard anyone bring up is how the P1 cars use a standard orange bulb for the turn signal, while the P2 lights use multiple orange LED's as the signals. I know some of you are making the best of what you're working with, but to new buyers/shoppers, the P2 lights are really a great value.
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Originally Posted by K-A
If you look at the P1 inside (inner eye) parking lights, they use regular bulbs. If you look at the P2 HID cars inner parking lights, you'll see this cool shiny "disco ball" looking projector thing. I think that's what he means. It looks a lot cooler, and of course, projects a much more intense and bright light.

O/T, but I was studying the differences between the P2 lights and the P1 lights. Not only does P2 HID's go further than simply dual HID's and projector HID inner parking lights (as well as the adaptive high beam, and turn lights), but the whole structure is different in design. I noticed some extra lights in there (might have been the turn-by-turn bulbs, and one thing I haven't heard anyone bring up is how the P1 cars use a standard orange bulb for the turn signal, while the P2 lights use multiple orange LED's as the signals. I know some of you are making the best of what you're working with, but to new buyers/shoppers, the P2 lights are really a great value.
KA I hate when you're right . P2 is the way to go if you have the option.

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Originally Posted by K-A
I noticed some extra lights in there (might have been the turn-by-turn bulbs, and one thing I haven't heard anyone bring up is how the P1 cars use a standard orange bulb for the turn signal, while the P2 lights use multiple orange LED's as the signals.
I went to the movies tonight and I parked in the back of the parking lot. Walking towards the car I decided to unlock the car from a distance... Hoooooly Crap! Those blinkers are super bright. They lit up the whole parking lot and they almost hurt my eyes when looking at them.
I LOVE THEM!
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I went to the movies tonight and I parked in the back of the parking lot. Walking towards the car I decided to unlock the car from a distance... Hoooooly Crap! Those blinkers are super bright. They lit up the whole parking lot and they almost hurt my eyes when looking at them.
I LOVE THEM!
Yup! A lot of people don't seem to know the P2's also use LED blinkers, while the P1's use the halogen bulbs. I just found out last week!
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Well...I got my HID Xenon's installed today in NJ (Lightwerkz). They did a great job. The installers Jay and Julian were real pros and took good care of my car and really knew what they were doing. They had to add 2 capaciters to eliminate flickering, but I had no error codes or faults. I'm very, very happy with the outcome. Nice bright, focused white light that now matches the color temp. of my LED'S. Superior output to the OEM halogin. If you can order P2...Go for it. If you have a P1 and regret not having xenon's...go after-market HID.
Hello, I have a 2010 E350 Sedan w/ P1 package. I want to upgrade my low beams to HID. What brand did you use? Also, did you convert your fog lights to the LED DRL's? I thought the LED's onlay came with Xenon headlights...just curious how you have LED DRL's but didnt have the Xenon lights?
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Hey MCF, I have the 2010 E350 with P1...is there a way to completely turn off the round halogen DRL's at night and just have the headlights and folg lights on?

BTW...I changed out my halogen fog light bulbs to Sylvania Sivlerstar bulbs and they are much whiter and brighter. Aa lot more like Xenon color. Looking to change out my low beams to HID using a conversion kit like BPhillyBenz did.
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Hey BPhilly, do you know or did you ask if this voids any factory warranties?

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to retorfit the P1 round fog lights to LED DRL's?
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Hey BPhilly, do you know or did you ask if this voids any factory warranties?

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to retorfit the P1 round fog lights to LED DRL's?
I think the only issue regarding the the warranty would be for the lighting and possible electrical. Good luck...it's worth it.
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Originally Posted by BPhillyBenz
I think the only issue regarding the the warranty would be for the lighting and possible electrical. Good luck...it's worth it.
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Do you know if it is possible to change out the round fog lights for the LED DRL's?
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BPhilly, do you know the color temperature (Kelvin) you installed in your HID conversion?
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FTB...so you did a HID conversion? If so, do you prefer the 6000K versus the 4300 or 5000? Also, I need to make my parking lights brighter...what Sylvania bulb did you use. I have a '10 E350 with the P1 package so I just have the small W5WB bulb as the parking light and it's a nasty yellowish color. Please let me know what bulbs (part #;s) you used.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ericsellingerTX
FTB...so you did a HID conversion? If so, do you prefer the 6000K versus the 4300 or 5000? Also, I need to make my parking lights brighter...what Sylvania bulb did you use. I have a '10 E350 with the P1 package so I just have the small W5WB bulb as the parking light and it's a nasty yellowish color. Please let me know what bulbs (part #;s) you used.

Thanks!
Here you go, I think I wrote this up once but just in case I didn't:
  • Unless you know your way around these cars I recommend you find someone competent to do the work
  • I used the 6000's, to me they are more white than blue (inserted that comment for KA he thinks they are too blue) and I drive on a lot of back country roads and I like the bright setup.
  • I swapped out my brights with Silvania H7 the brightest they had (thanks to Philly for his recommendation earlier in this thread), I will keep looking for something whiter, I'm sure I will find them
  • I swapped the parking lights (these are next to the headlights) with 194 bulbs (194 is a make of bulb), this is where you will need some help, if you just put the 194 LED's in you have to trick the computer out or you will get error lights. But you almost have to do this or you'll be mixing halogens and HID's.
  • I have the hockey LED's, so on the round DRL's you can probably use the 194's but your going to have get some help.
  • If you want to go all the way you have to do the turn signals which I haven't done yet.
Mine are a match great, to be honest better than most of different Zenon/HID cars I see.

Good luck, get some help (again thanks to Philly for highlighting how difficult he thought it was prior to my starting the project).

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Awesome, thats very helpful. Curious, is there a particluar brand of bulb for the 194...and is that an LED replacement to the OEM (W5WB) halogen bulb? And what did you have to do to trick the computer? I know a lot of the LED's are "error-free".
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Originally Posted by ericsellingerTX
Awesome, thats very helpful. Curious, is there a particluar brand of bulb for the 194...and is that an LED replacement to the OEM (W5WB) halogen bulb? And what did you have to do to trick the computer? I know a lot of the LED's are "error-free".
I just don't know how they did it sorry, maybe someone else who did it can chime in.

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