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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by marka5083
I realized after going over the original post that I mis-communicated. The remote for the Audi doesn't do this...the key does...if you insert the key and turn and hold one direction (I've forgotten which way), all the windows lower (or rise if they're open).

Sorry if that confused folks.
That is correct. I did not want to say this, so was waiting for you to comeback.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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HOLD feature on the W212 is pretty neat.

But, regarding opening windows (and sunroof) via the key remote on Audis, it's not a factory-enabled option but something that you can "turn on" for at least most newer Audis.

Originally Posted by marka5083
I thought I had seen cool on my Audi which allowed me to lower all the windows with the remote on hot days
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Ya? And which Audi (year and model) does/did that?
I can open/close windows/sunroof with my key remote on an '11 S4 and a '10 Q5 and also have the ability to configure which windows (front, back or both) will open with the remote through the onboard computer.
I know it can be enabled on most newer Audis (not sure about older ones though as we were always an MB family and only recently started driving Audis)

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I realized after going over the original post that I mis-communicated. The remote for the Audi doesn't do this...the key does...if you insert the key and turn and hold one direction (I've forgotten which way), all the windows lower (or rise if they're open).

Sorry if that confused folks.
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That is correct. I did not want to say this, so was waiting for you to comeback.
Anyway, one thing I really like about our Audi's is that we can customize and change a lot of things (and also diagnose problems/issues) with a cable and a laptop (www.ross-tech.com). Is there something similar available for MBs?
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 03:19 PM
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OK guys. I will admit - I have tried. And tried. Just cannot activate the HOLD feature. I know this has come up a lot on another thread, and I gave up on it. Its surfaced up again.

Here is how I am doing.
1) Bring car to complete stop by pressing brake. Car stops. Thats the easy part.
2) Lift foot from brake pedal slightly, and give it a push. And I have tried both, gently and harsh push.
3) All that does is, takes the car a little forward everytime I lift the foot and stops it when I try to 'tap' it. And I keep on 'tapping' - and my car goes forward in little increments. I am sure people around me must be like, 'whats wrong with that dude?'

I know its all in the technique, but its frustrating that I cannot get it. Will keep trying.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Don't let up on the brake before tapping it. Brake, come to a stop, and keep the brake pressure constant for a moment. Now give the brake a quick push. You'll see the hold in the IC, and now you can let off the brake.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by asm777
But, regarding opening windows (and sunroof) via the key remote on Audis, it's not a factory-enabled option but something that you can "turn on" for at least most newer Audis.

I can open/close windows/sunroof with my key remote on an '11 S4 and a '10 Q5 and also have the ability to configure which windows (front, back or both) will open with the remote through the onboard computer.
I know it can be enabled on most newer Audis (not sure about older ones though as we were always an MB family and only recently started driving Audis)
I know about newer Audis and VIG (or what ever its called tool). OP was clearly refering to a bit older model (at least that's how I read it).

I had A6 4.2 and the only way to open/close windows was as was just described a few posts back - insert key into driver's door and hold it.

I also had until very recently an A8, and because if was "keyless go" you couldn't even put key in. So the way to open only (no closing) of all windows (not sunroof) was to open driver's door and press and hold driver's power window button untill all windows roll down. That was on a $75K car! Of course current A8 is IMHO the best and most luxurious car under $100K, but I'll never spend that much money for singe car of any brand anymore (twice was enough SL & A8, not taking such huge depritiation hit anymore).

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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ttoE550
Don't let up on the brake before tapping it. Brake, come to a stop, and keep the brake pressure constant for a moment. Now give the brake a quick push. You'll see the hold in the IC, and now you can let off the brake.
OK. So, I have applied enough pressure on brake to bring it to complete stop. Once I do that, rather than pulling back, but apply MORE pressure - is that right? Never tried that. Will let you know. Thanks!
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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OK. So, I have applied enough pressure on brake to bring it to complete stop. Once I do that, rather than pulling back, but apply MORE pressure - is that right? Never tried that. Will let you know. Thanks!
Exactly! Just apply the MORE pressure in a quick push and I'm sure it will work.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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ive tried that aswell, no luck. spoke with a fellow AMG tech and he said it had to be enabled in STAR.. soab
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ttoE550
Exactly! Just apply the MORE pressure in a quick push and I'm sure it will work.
GOT IT!
Did exactly what you instructed. And it worked!

On my way back from work, for the first time in my life I was hoping for more red lights so that I can turn it on! I know, I will get over it in 2 days, but I was seriously thinking of going to my dealer and have him demonstrate this feature to me.

Thanks guys for putting up with my ignorance.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Westwind
GOT IT!
Did exactly what you instructed. And it worked!

On my way back from work, for the first time in my life I was hoping for more red lights so that I can turn it on! I know, I will get over it in 2 days, but I was seriously thinking of going to my dealer and have him demonstrate this feature to me.

Thanks guys for putting up with my ignorance.
Great! Now you can have some serious fun at stop lights with 550 motor. For some reason, when you have the car in hold and you press the accelerator, there is no lag at all and the car just blasts off.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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Indeed. The HOLD Feature seems INCREDIBLE for drag racing at a track. Imagine staging at the lights with this bad boy? Can you say excellent reaction, and 60' times?
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Indeed. The HOLD Feature seems INCREDIBLE for drag racing at a track. Imagine staging at the lights with this bad boy? Can you say excellent reaction, and 60' times?
Yeah, and you can't have a twitchy foot -- one slight brush on the accelerator and the car starts rolling!
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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the only bad thing about HOLD is that you cant have a smooth start and it always jerks you back when you step on the gas
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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you make it sound like a bad thing... just keep the pedal down and hold on!
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 03'55AMG
you make it sound like a bad thing... just keep the pedal down and hold on!
every time i use it my dad yells at me for stepping on the gas too hard
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by peeta123
the only bad thing about HOLD is that you cant have a smooth start and it always jerks you back when you step on the gas
"Bad" is in the eye of the beholder -- it's "good" for a g-force junkie!
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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I can imagine the E550 feels extra "jolty" on takeoff from Hold. The E350 is like that enough itself.

This thing is like a drag racers best kept secret. I can imagine an E with 4-Matic (to eliminate wheel spin, although 4Matic sucks out a lot more power from a motor), with T/C off, can be a pretty burst-y and sticky launcher.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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Studebaker introduced the Hill HOlder brake feature in the late '30's or 40's.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Westwind
OK guys. I will admit - I have tried. And tried. Just cannot activate the HOLD feature. I know this has come up a lot on another thread, and I gave up on it. Its surfaced up again.

Here is how I am doing.
1) Bring car to complete stop by pressing brake. Car stops. Thats the easy part.
2) Lift foot from brake pedal slightly, and give it a push. And I have tried both, gently and harsh push.
3) All that does is, takes the car a little forward everytime I lift the foot and stops it when I try to 'tap' it. And I keep on 'tapping' - and my car goes forward in little increments. I am sure people around me must be like, 'whats wrong with that dude?'

I know its all in the technique, but its frustrating that I cannot get it. Will keep trying.
Somewhere I read that the hold feature can only be activated on an incline...not on level ground. Is this true? I use the feature often on hills. This morning I tried to activate it in my garage and on several other level areas and could not engage it. As soon as I was on a hill it worked perfectly.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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El Cid, Thanks for the information. I did not know when Studebaker first started using the "Hillholder" feature. I do know my parents had it on their Stude's in the 50's and 60's. They owned Studebakers from the 40's right to the end of the Studebaker run in 1965.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ImInPA
Somewhere I read that the hold feature can only be activated on an incline...not on level ground. Is this true? I use the feature often on hills. This morning I tried to activate it in my garage and on several other level areas and could not engage it. As soon as I was on a hill it worked perfectly.
Mine has worked everywhere I've tried it. A couple times today on level ground. I think there is an automatic hill assist which only works on inclines, but that's something else.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ImInPA
Somewhere I read that the hold feature can only be activated on an incline...not on level ground. Is this true? I use the feature often on hills. This morning I tried to activate it in my garage and on several other level areas and could not engage it. As soon as I was on a hill it worked perfectly.
It works every the time, regardless of ground level, with the proper activation procedure as described in the OM.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by threeMBs
It works every the time, regardless of ground level, with the proper activation procedure as described in the OM.
Thanks. Not sure what I was doing wrong. It is a nice feature nonetheless.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ImInPA
Thanks. Not sure what I was doing wrong. It is a nice feature nonetheless.
We're you in Drive? I don't think it works if you're in Park. Not sure about Neutral...
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cvinfig
We're you in Drive? I don't think it works if you're in Park. Not sure about Neutral...
Not sure. As has been noted in other threads, being one of the millions of Old Folks who buy MB's, I must have just been having a "senior moment". It works just fine.
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