Yeah that was me, lol. It shifted into Park with a startling "bang" and lunge.

Yeah, my Auto Hold on this car I have to press every time I start the car to engage it. However, obviously you'd engage it when you get into a traffic condition you most likely would want to use it. It's pretty convenient and definitely more smooth (i.e no having to push a brake hard with your foot) and "trick" than the E's, but I find myself using it very little, so far.... go figure.

I like this feature but don't use it because it lights up the stop lights blinding the drivers behind. I've complained to MB but they don't seem to care. Even sent a letter to them from the IAM agreeing with my view that the stop lights are nor needed. They don't come on if you apply the hand brake so why does HOLD light them up!

That makes no sense at all. Fact is the brakes ARE being applied, so of course the brake lights need to be on. Having no brake lights on simply because they're being "kept" on my a computer rather than your foot would be just as much a safety hazard to you and those coming up behind you as the brake lights not working when you have your own foot pushing it down the "old fashioned way".

Troll... Go away... It's impossible for someone to be as idiotic as this post suggests.

This post just does not make any sense. The brake lights also lit up when you keep your foot on the brake pedal. Hold make only the difference that you don't have to keep pressing on the pedal to keep car stationary during long red light etc.

OMG!
I'll pass on the abuse.

Pulling up at traffic lights, you should use the hand brake when the stop lights do NOT come on.

Some of you must know who the IAM are but those who do not; the letters stand for the 'Institute of Advanced Motorists'. In their opinion it is BAD MANNERS to keep your foot on the brake pedal when stationary as it is dazzling to drivers behind.

I am in the UK where we have a law against using High Intensity rear lights, in addition to normal rear lights, unless used during inclement weather. I am sure many of you have travelled behind cars with these lights unnecessarily turned on and have been dazzled for long distances. If you can see the normal rear lights from a reasonable distance, there is no need to turn on the High Intensity lights.

Now imagine being stationary behind a Mercedes with its beautiful set of very bright stop lights dazzling you for a few minutes at every set of traffic lights.

Now imagine following half a dozen Mercedes, all of them with their glaring lights dazzling each other and everyone else. Is that a design feature that we all want? I certainly don't and I don't use the function. It's called being considerate to other road users!

I think you make a good point.....after thinking about it, it makes sense to me.....the tails are very bright, and I have often noticed the brightness
of other cars tail lights.....
you're obviously refurring to manual cars for the hand brake?

The hand brake has the same function on manual or automatic cars, to hold a stationary vehicle and as an emergency brake.
Mercedes is unusual to have a 'foot brake' for a hand brake but a lot of cars now have a 'button' but the function remains the same. It becomes more difficult to use the handbrake in an automatic and that is why all sorts of anti-creep has been used to some success. I loved the HOLD function till I realised the brake lights were lit .
Now I only use it if there is no one behind me and use the hand brake if I am held up for long. I try hard not to dazzle others, especially at night when the car behind is close, but oftentimes it is unavoidable in automatics.
I brought the problem to the dealers notice but he failed to acknowledge it. I wrote to the IAM and posted their response to Mercedes Customer Relations but was told that this is a safety feature!
Go figure.

Your logic is so flawed here. It would be a safety hazard to ALL involved if the brake lights weren't on. This has to be the most odd, quirky and flat our weird complaint toward the car I've heard in all my time here.

Per the manual the hold function engages the P in the transmission while maintaining the break lights on. At no point while the HOLD function is on, the breaks or parking break are being applied. It simply shifts seamlessly from P to D when applying pressure to the pedal, there is a camera there that follows your foot movement too

So I guess in UK you should have a law to 'dim' the headlight at night if you stop for a long time as well? since the darn headlights would certainly blind me when i looked at them from my rear and sideview mirrors when they are next to me.

Its supposed to light the brake lights...its holding the brake peddle so you dont have to. If you dont want the brake light on and want to be rear ended put it in park at the traffic light.

Wow, your an idiot. If your in a travel lane and stopped your brake lights should be on...as a courtesy to the other drivers to know that your stopped.

Amen...its amazing these people even have a license.

Well, this I don't believe. If it was holding the car on P then there would be a little movement when I take my foot off of the brake pedal after HOLD is engaged. My car does not move at all, it is like brakes hold it, which is what I believe also happens.

Nobody can be seriously writing something like this. What is the word describing people who post something just to irritate others...

Lots of abusive emails
I'm done with the ignorance.
I'd have thought anyone owning a Merc would have a couple of grey cells between their ears but these mails prove otherwise.

For those who posed questions, read up:

https://www.gov.uk/general-rules-all...nts-113-to-116


These are not my views. This is the LAW.

Unfortunately it's this kind of reckless complaining that over-complexifies what should be a simple feature ("BRAKE" Hold) that starts ridiculous things like perhaps lawsuits or down-scoring them on "Initial Reliability Reports", which forces these automakers to then rid our cars of these great features. I think that's why people are annoyed by it.

If it's a law to not have super bright brake lights flashing the guy behind you, then in your area automakers should have applied a way that it doesn't do so under normal braking, until then, Brake Hold should act as what it truly is: the brakes being applied, whether or not it's by your foot is irrelevant to the car behind you.

Brake Hold is a LUXURY, remember that, they have no "rules of Brake Hold" to follow aside from having them act EXACTLY like real brakes. There's no reason to go barking at a car manufacturer for not conforming it to your own viewpoints, be them quirky or not.

I think the E-Class dazzles other drivers whether the brake lights are on or not.

Regards,
Don

I'm gonna have to side with Raj here. I stopped using my brake pedal for this very reason. For some reason it keeps activating my brake lights. The last thing in the world that I want is for the car behind me to know that I have come to a complete stop. It's none of their business what I am doing. Brake lights are a huge violation of my on-road privacy.

Very considerate of you indeed. I am sure those behind you really applaud you for saving their eyes from bright lights

So glad I came across this thread! Tried out the HOLD function a few days ago and have been using it regularly ever since. It eases that part of me that makes me feel uneasy since I'm not shifting into neutral anymore like I did with all my previous cars.

With regards to opening all windows and sunroof on Audis & VWs

I'm not sure you can do it remotely... You put the key in the door lock and turn it all the way to the right and and all windows open.

How do accomplish this with my Mercedes? Do the same thing?

if I hold door lock key on my FOB, then sunroof and all windows will get closed. I have keyless go though.

Just point the key fob at the little square on the door handle and hold the unlock or lock, open all/close all respectively). You do have to be close enough to the handle to be able to point the fob at that square. It won't work from more then a few feet away (at least this has been my experience).