E550 Airmatic Sports Setting
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Pay attention. I was purposely referencing ROW documents from Daimler's global media website and nomenclature, not USA specs from MBUSA.
Your copy/paste that you are referring to is only for the coupe and cab and the C Class (option.) The dynamic handling package is not an option on the W212 sedan RWD and 4matic in the USA.
We are talking about the W212 sedan here......
Your copy/paste that you are referring to is only for the coupe and cab and the C Class (option.) The dynamic handling package is not an option on the W212 sedan RWD and 4matic in the USA.
We are talking about the W212 sedan here......
I guess you are not smart enough to figure that out.
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Not sure how old Tjdehya is or if it's just his meds, but I'll try to ignore it.
Nonetheless here are the details on this button 'confusion.' And it is confusing due to nomenclature in various markets and the availability. Even Edmunds Inside Line took time to try to explain it in the USA C Class versus the ROW C Class (link is at the bottom of the post.)
And it's all spelled out in the Daimler Global Media site.
In the USA you have two suspension choices in the E350, sport or luxury. There's no suspension button and you buy one car version or the other. That's just how it's marketed. Both models are active systems and not adaptive. With the E550 you get Airmatic. It has ADS (adaptive) and with two suspension settings , comfort or sport (it used to have three settings: comfort, sport I and sport II.) On both the E350 and the E550 there is an economy E (used to be comfort C) and sport S button for the transmission (and only the transmission) that lowers shift points and starts the car out in 2nd gear.
In the ROW, things are a bit different. You can get Airmatic in a lot of models including the E350. But in the non-Airmatic they have also a continually variable, dynamic handling, advanced agility control (or whatever the nomenclature is called depending the country it's marketed in) adaptive suspension mode button in the car. In addition in the Airmatic versions there is also ADS. So, in ROW you have the comfort and sport button that affects both the transmission and suspension, and there is also the ADS setting. That's why the Australian owners manual that WGB posted says the C - S button affects both "engine and suspension characteristics" and explains it in detail (p. 107) Diesel Benz also showed the Euro owner's manual version.
In the USA, the coupe and cab (convertible) also has a single button (marketed as agility control suspension in the USA) as an option on the E350 and standard o the E550. And the later C Class, too (which the coupe is based on.) This option is in the appearance package option for $1900 extra.
btw, some of the non-photoshopped imagery that the MBUSA website uses (video clips and some photos) are from ROW models. When they show the suspension video in the "explore the E350" section, they talk about sport and comfort but show the interior button of a ROW E500 with Airmatic in the video clip. So beware that some of the visual info is not precise.
fwiw, here's an explanation of the difference between USA and ROW (in respect to the C Class) as explained by Edmund's Inside Line: http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...y-control.html
"That C/S button at the bottom of the PRND indicator has nothing to do with the car's suspension. No doubt long-time Mercedes-Benz fans will know it only changes the behavior of the transmission. Why the confusion? The problem is that European markets are already enjoying genuine adaptive suspensions on their C Classes. The working name for that feature, which our market will get sometime next year, is Advanced Agility. Online Mercedes-Benz forums are already filled with pages attempting to clarify this nomenclature. It seems that even some U.S. Mercedes-Benz sales staff are telling customers that the button next to the shifter controls the adaptive suspension. When it does arrive in the 2009 C Class, the button controlling truly active dampers will be at the base of the center stack."
Anyway, hopefully it all makes a bit more sense (?)
Nonetheless here are the details on this button 'confusion.' And it is confusing due to nomenclature in various markets and the availability. Even Edmunds Inside Line took time to try to explain it in the USA C Class versus the ROW C Class (link is at the bottom of the post.)
And it's all spelled out in the Daimler Global Media site.
In the USA you have two suspension choices in the E350, sport or luxury. There's no suspension button and you buy one car version or the other. That's just how it's marketed. Both models are active systems and not adaptive. With the E550 you get Airmatic. It has ADS (adaptive) and with two suspension settings , comfort or sport (it used to have three settings: comfort, sport I and sport II.) On both the E350 and the E550 there is an economy E (used to be comfort C) and sport S button for the transmission (and only the transmission) that lowers shift points and starts the car out in 2nd gear.
In the ROW, things are a bit different. You can get Airmatic in a lot of models including the E350. But in the non-Airmatic they have also a continually variable, dynamic handling, advanced agility control (or whatever the nomenclature is called depending the country it's marketed in) adaptive suspension mode button in the car. In addition in the Airmatic versions there is also ADS. So, in ROW you have the comfort and sport button that affects both the transmission and suspension, and there is also the ADS setting. That's why the Australian owners manual that WGB posted says the C - S button affects both "engine and suspension characteristics" and explains it in detail (p. 107) Diesel Benz also showed the Euro owner's manual version.
In the USA, the coupe and cab (convertible) also has a single button (marketed as agility control suspension in the USA) as an option on the E350 and standard o the E550. And the later C Class, too (which the coupe is based on.) This option is in the appearance package option for $1900 extra.
btw, some of the non-photoshopped imagery that the MBUSA website uses (video clips and some photos) are from ROW models. When they show the suspension video in the "explore the E350" section, they talk about sport and comfort but show the interior button of a ROW E500 with Airmatic in the video clip. So beware that some of the visual info is not precise.
fwiw, here's an explanation of the difference between USA and ROW (in respect to the C Class) as explained by Edmund's Inside Line: http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...y-control.html
"That C/S button at the bottom of the PRND indicator has nothing to do with the car's suspension. No doubt long-time Mercedes-Benz fans will know it only changes the behavior of the transmission. Why the confusion? The problem is that European markets are already enjoying genuine adaptive suspensions on their C Classes. The working name for that feature, which our market will get sometime next year, is Advanced Agility. Online Mercedes-Benz forums are already filled with pages attempting to clarify this nomenclature. It seems that even some U.S. Mercedes-Benz sales staff are telling customers that the button next to the shifter controls the adaptive suspension. When it does arrive in the 2009 C Class, the button controlling truly active dampers will be at the base of the center stack."
Anyway, hopefully it all makes a bit more sense (?)
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Hey genius take a look at what I highlighted... PAY ATTENTION! All I was pointing out was the "all at the touch of a single button" in relation to the fact that a "single button" changes both transmission and suspension.
I guess you are not smart enough to figure that out.
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thinking of buying a W212 E550 just curious what does the button under the comfort/sport suspension button do?
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Thanks to everyone for the awesome input, the arguing not withstanding.
UPDATE: I swapped the front and rear air lines at the solenoid to see if the rear would drop the next morning like the front does, or if the front shocks are bad. In doing so I found the o-rings to the front lines were no good. I tightened them down a little more and it's been holding for about 7 hours so far.
One mechanic wanted 5k to do the shocks, dealer wanted 6k, makes me wonder if they know it's things like this and they like to say its big ticket items and then fix these little things while they are at it. In any case, I hope I just avoided buying 900 dollar shocks.
UPDATE: I swapped the front and rear air lines at the solenoid to see if the rear would drop the next morning like the front does, or if the front shocks are bad. In doing so I found the o-rings to the front lines were no good. I tightened them down a little more and it's been holding for about 7 hours so far.
One mechanic wanted 5k to do the shocks, dealer wanted 6k, makes me wonder if they know it's things like this and they like to say its big ticket items and then fix these little things while they are at it. In any case, I hope I just avoided buying 900 dollar shocks.
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The o-rings don't typically go bad and/or the connectors suddenly being loose... either a PO was messing with it due to leaks or when you swapped them front-to-rear you didn't tighten the connections. Not that they need much, as they can easily strip the nylon housing of the valve body or spring cap/ends.
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The o-rings don't typically go bad and/or the connectors suddenly being loose... either a PO was messing with it due to leaks or when you swapped them front-to-rear you didn't tighten the connections. Not that they need much, as they can easily strip the nylon housing of the valve body or spring cap/ends.