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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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Yesterday my TPMS went off. This was my first experience with this. I recalled the left front tire showing 20 PSI. I read the manual this morning and it recommended settings between 29-33 PSI based on the inside gas cap recommendations. After resetting TPMS this morning and driving around for 30 mins or so the reading was well within range, 29-33, not any less or more. Why would this alert sound? I'm in NY and the weather was a lot cooler yesterday for the first time in a while. Also, I did not drive the car all week. Could this have anything to do with the alert?
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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It appears as if perhaps your reading of the pressure was not corrrect, maybe the sensor had an issue. I would keep my eye on it and if it reoccurrs and the pressure is OK I would have the dealer take a look.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Most likely nothing wrong . The vast majority of people have no clue how TPMS works - or for that matter - how tires work.

By regulation, TPMS sensors must alert at 25% below the set pressure. Accordingly, if the set pressure is 30psi, then the system must alert at about 22 - 23 psi.

Dealers are notorious for not setting tire pressures right. My 3 week old BMW had one tire set to 60 psi and another at 25. Since the dealer reset the system there were no alerts but I had long learned to check pressures myself.

A tire loses about one psi a month and another psi for every 10 degree drop in temps. So, if you set your tires in June when the temps were 90 degrees and it is 60 now,then You'll have lost 3psi for tems and another 3 for time.

The sensors are not a replacement for checking tire pressures periodically.

Set all your tires as recommended on your door jambwhen the tires are cold (driven less than one mile after sitting overnight)
Reset your system
Check pressures in a two days. If OK, then check again in a week.
If the same tire is low again, then you may have a slow leak. Any tire place can check for that.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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Thanks guys. I'm sure the left from tire showed 20 PSI when the alert sounded (red). After resetting today all was ok.

CEB, I did pickup a gauge today and when checked with the gauge the readings were about 1 psi off from the cars TPMS. I did not check the readings though when the car was cold but will do so tomorrow.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Thanks guys. I'm sure the left from tire showed 20 PSI when the alert sounded (red). After resetting today all was ok.

CEB, I did pickup a gauge today and when checked with the gauge the readings were about 1 psi off from the cars TPMS. I did not check the readings though when the car was cold but will do so tomorrow.
The problem is that you didn't have a baseline until today.

I also assume that you actually added air to the low tire before you reset the system. Resetting the system without adding air will not fix your problem, it will merely turn the warning light off.

Document the date and pressure over the next month or so. That will give you a good idea if you have a problem tire.

Most inexpensive tire gauges aren't very accurate, but a couple of psi one way or the other don't really matter. You are looking for larger pressure drops. I suspect that your sensors are more accurate than your gauge.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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I also assume that you actually added air to the low tire before you reset the system. Resetting the system without adding air will not fix your problem, it will merely turn the warning light off.
That's just it, I never had a low tire which is why I'm confused as to why this occurred. I did not add air before resetting because the manual gauge did not indicate a low pressure situation.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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It is my understanding that if you fill your tires with nitrogen, as is offered at many tire stores, your tire pressures will not fluctuate with temperature. However, I do not know if nitrogen is accepted by the TPMS. Does anyone know if you can use nitrogen or not?
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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One more thing not mentioned...after driving for a few miles your temp tire psi will rise anywhere from 3 to 5 psi. This would explain your readings after "you had dricen around for 30 min).
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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I have heard of the N for tires, not sure if that's actually a good idea.......
if it was I think everyone would be doing it, not to mention it costs money.....
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Firestopper0383
It is my understanding that if you fill your tires with nitrogen, as is offered at many tire stores, your tire pressures will not fluctuate with temperature. However, I do not know if nitrogen is accepted by the TPMS. Does anyone know if you can use nitrogen or not?
Yes you can use nitrogen. However there really are not any benefits and its usually just a dealer profit item. There are benefits in race cars and also in aircraft. With a normal street car it is rediculous to do so.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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Yes you can use nitrogen. However there really are not any benefits and its usually just a dealer profit item. There are benefits in race cars and also in aircraft. With a normal street car it is rediculous to do so.

Also, air is 80% nitrogen.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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For what it's worth, I called MBUSA today to get their recommendations. They said to use the setting located inside the gas cap and to take settings when the car is cold or just prior to the first drive for the day. This morning I took a reading and got 27-28 so I'm just a tad below the recommended 32-33 under normal load.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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5-6 psi is more than just a tad!!! Looks like your TPMS may have saved you some grief.
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Originally Posted by Firestopper0383
It is my understanding that if you fill your tires with nitrogen, as is offered at many tire stores, your tire pressures will not fluctuate with temperature. However, I do not know if nitrogen is accepted by the TPMS. Does anyone know if you can use nitrogen or not?
Nitrogen for tires is a pure scam. What is the air we breath made of?

In theory, nitrogen would have some advantages, but in actuality all it is is a way for the dealer to inflate their wallets.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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That's just it, I never had a low tire which is why I'm confused as to why this occurred. I did not add air before resetting because the manual gauge did not indicate a low pressure situation.
Wait, areyou saying that the sensor showed 20psi, but you actually had much more air inyour tires?
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Wait, areyou saying that the sensor showed 20psi, but you actually had much more air inyour tires?
Yes. The display was red and I'm sure I saw 20psi for the left front tire.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Yes. The display was red and I'm sure I saw 20psi for the left front tire.
I might have had something similar happen to me, but I don't remember the exact numbers and such.

Driving along, and the display went red and showed some issue with rear left tire. I was literally a block from the neighborhood gas station, so I pulled in. There was nothing obviously wrong, and the pressure was ok (don't remember the number, sorry).

The guy at the service station insisted on having me drive back and forth, and he found a screw that had stuck into the tire, with the head sealing the hole. He pulled it out and patched it without even taking the tire off, charged me $5, and sent me on my way.

He explained to me that the system identifies a sudden decrease in pressure, even if it is a small decrease. I bet you have a nail or a screw.
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It is my understanding that if you fill your tires with nitrogen, as is offered at many tire stores, your tire pressures will not fluctuate with temperature. However, I do not know if nitrogen is accepted by the TPMS. Does anyone know if you can use nitrogen or not?


Ever hear of the gas law? If not, google it.
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Ever hear of the gas law? If not, google it.

Thanks for the chemistry lesson, Professor. I am now fully versed in the gas laws of "Charles", "Lay-Dussacs", "Boyles", and "Avogadros Law".

Exactly which "gas law" were you referring?
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Originally Posted by Firestopper0383
Thanks for the chemistry lesson, Professor. I am now fully versed in the gas laws of "Charles", "Lay-Dussacs", "Boyles", and "Avogadros Law".

Exactly which "gas law" were you referring?



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Originally Posted by Firestopper0383
It is my understanding that if you fill your tires with nitrogen, as is offered at many tire stores, your tire pressures will not fluctuate with temperature. However, I do not know if nitrogen is accepted by the TPMS. Does anyone know if you can use nitrogen or not?
Originally Posted by Firestopper0383
Thanks for the chemistry lesson, Professor. I am now fully versed in the gas laws of "Charles", "Lay-Dussacs", "Boyles", and "Avogadros Law".

Exactly which "gas law" were you referring?
Which on of your laws makes the gas pressure not fluctuate with temperature?

Funny how one knowing that many laws ignores them all when a sales person explains how good his stuff is.
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I might have had something similar happen to me, but I don't remember the exact numbers and such.

Driving along, and the display went red and showed some issue with rear left tire. I was literally a block from the neighborhood gas station, so I pulled in. There was nothing obviously wrong, and the pressure was ok (don't remember the number, sorry).

The guy at the service station insisted on having me drive back and forth, and he found a screw that had stuck into the tire, with the head sealing the hole. He pulled it out and patched it without even taking the tire off, charged me $5, and sent me on my way.

He explained to me that the system identifies a sudden decrease in pressure, even if it is a small decrease. I bet you have a nail or a screw.
No screw found. I have been monitoring the pressure the last few days. It has been below the recommended 32psi (front) and 33psi (rear), more like 28psi and 30psi. I went to Mavis Discount Tire this morning. They have a free tire pressure/air pump. You set the psi you want and fill up the tire until the machine beeps. Now I'm set.

I might add I sometimes get a slight steering vibration at just below 60mph during a first drive (15-30mins) of the day. I no longer have this problem after setting the right tire pressure.
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No screw found. I have been monitoring the pressure the last few days. It has been below the recommended 32psi (front) and 33psi (rear), more like 28psi and 30psi. I went to Mavis Discount Tire this morning. They have a free tire pressure/air pump. You set the psi you want and fill up the tire until the machine beeps. Now I'm set.

I might add I sometimes get a slight steering vibration at just below 60mph during a first drive (15-30mins) of the day. I no longer have this problem after setting the right tire pressure.
Gas station and tire store "free" pumps - especially those with the "set it and forget it" auto shut-off - are notoriously inaccurate. Go to an auto parts store andbuy the best gauge you can find. It'll probably set you back $15 and you'll save that with increased tire life.
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Originally Posted by CEB
Gas station and tire store "free" pumps - especially those with the "set it and forget it" auto shut-off - are notoriously inaccurate. Go to an auto parts store andbuy the best gauge you can find. It'll probably set you back $15 and you'll save that with increased tire life.
I do have a gauge as well. The gauge, the free pump and cars TPM all display the same reading.
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