E wagon experience??
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2013 E350 4M Wagon & 2013 C350 4M Sedan
Thanks. Launch edition is pano roof, navi, artico stitched dash, premium leather seats, drive assist, amg apperance , etc.... But it has the old style steering wheel which is odd.
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Thanks for the input.
My bike needs to go inside. It's 54 cm carbon/ti combo so I don't want to leave it on roof rack or hitch rack. Too easy of a target to disappear.
I know I would sometime forget about the roof rack too, and my garage would turn it into a 24 cm
Adrien, that was news to me that Euro E wagons don't have the kid seats-thanks. That would make it much easier if proper parts existed. I was thinking one would have to "unbolt" seat bottoms and backs and leave covers----if that's even possible.
I should probably test drive the 2012 E sedan as ride/handling should be very comparable to the wagon.
For some reason, I find the wagon much more attractive than the sedan....
I hope one of our 3 local MB dealers gets a 2012 in to check out.
Bob
Adrien, yes pictures of the kid seats would be nice. No hurry. With seats up/in place and something that shows how big the storage space would be if seats weren't attached to lids. Big area? Would it hold a lot of misc bike things like shoes, helmet, small cooler, raingear, etc? Did someone say spare sits at bottom? Thanks.
I always have trouble posting pics on forums so if you cannot, I'm at bsmutka@gmail.com
My bike needs to go inside. It's 54 cm carbon/ti combo so I don't want to leave it on roof rack or hitch rack. Too easy of a target to disappear.
I know I would sometime forget about the roof rack too, and my garage would turn it into a 24 cm
Adrien, that was news to me that Euro E wagons don't have the kid seats-thanks. That would make it much easier if proper parts existed. I was thinking one would have to "unbolt" seat bottoms and backs and leave covers----if that's even possible.
I should probably test drive the 2012 E sedan as ride/handling should be very comparable to the wagon.
For some reason, I find the wagon much more attractive than the sedan....
I hope one of our 3 local MB dealers gets a 2012 in to check out.
Bob
Adrien, yes pictures of the kid seats would be nice. No hurry. With seats up/in place and something that shows how big the storage space would be if seats weren't attached to lids. Big area? Would it hold a lot of misc bike things like shoes, helmet, small cooler, raingear, etc? Did someone say spare sits at bottom? Thanks.
I always have trouble posting pics on forums so if you cannot, I'm at bsmutka@gmail.com
I wouldn't hesitate to put a bike like that on a rack, especially a good Thule or Yakima. Their locks may in fact be better than the car's. Now,not slamming them into the garage is another issue...
I poked around on the UK site. Child seats in the rear are optional, as is something called "easy pack" which appears to be an internal rack and rail system. You can see it at the URL below. That said, not sure if it offers any more space...
http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cont...w/comfort.html
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I wouldn't hesitate to put a bike like that on a rack, especially a good Thule or Yakima. Their locks may in fact be better than the car's. Now,not slamming them into the garage is another issue...
I poked around on the UK site. Child seats in the rear are optional, as is something called "easy pack" which appears to be an internal rack and rail system. You can see it at the URL below. That said, not sure if it offers any more space...
http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cont...w/comfort.html
I poked around on the UK site. Child seats in the rear are optional, as is something called "easy pack" which appears to be an internal rack and rail system. You can see it at the URL below. That said, not sure if it offers any more space...
http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cont...w/comfort.html
http://www.gizmag.com/2010-mercedes-...picture/89161/
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cargo area detail...
Per request, the trunk with just the MB mat, the first section of the seat deployed, the second section (fully deployed) detail on the footwell and finally with the seat cushion removed altogether and the floor lifted (on a strut, no less).
I looks like the pieces are all modular and removable, including the seat backs.
I looks like the pieces are all modular and removable, including the seat backs.
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A warning to those that will order a wagon, I ordered a 2012 E350 wagon to replace my 2009 E350 wagon (a great car). I ticked off the Easy Pack load securing system since it is a $0 option and I have it in my 2009 and use it once in a while, so for free, why not? When my car was delivered, there was no 3rd row folding seat! Seems that for 2012, when you select the Easy Pack option, you loose the 3rd row seat, but no warning pops up on the MB website to warn you about this! Kind of important to know when ordering a car. I bought the car because of that seat, so I didn't accept the car, the dealer will re-order. Sucks to see your new car but not be able to accept it.
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My wife and I test drove the "12 ML550 and the '12 E350 4Matic wagon, back to back. Came home with a sport package wagon with 18" wheels. The overly boosted steering on the ML550 was awful. We drove the ML first, so the difference in feel after stepping into the wagon was immediately apparent. Steering was still more boosted than in my C63, but felt appropriate for its purpose in a wagon. The ride and handling are also much more controlled in the wagon. The acceleration did not feel very far off of that of the ML550, but the DI V6 felt more responsive and also emits a nice little growl. We now have 1200 miles on the wagon and are extremely happy with the choice.
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My wife and I test drove the "12 ML550 and the '12 E350 4Matic wagon, back to back. Came home with a sport package wagon with 18" wheels. The overly boosted steering on the ML550 was awful. We drove the ML first, so the difference in feel after stepping into the wagon was immediately apparent. Steering was still more boosted than in my C63, but felt appropriate for its purpose in a wagon. The ride and handling are also much more controlled in the wagon. The acceleration did not feel very far off of that of the ML550, but the DI V6 felt more responsive and also emits a nice little growl. We now have 1200 miles on the wagon and are extremely happy with the choice.
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Same thoughts as BM2BZ
In addition to that, I normally am not into wagons but W212 is the so great in any form no matter what you pick up
In addition to that, I normally am not into wagons but W212 is the so great in any form no matter what you pick up
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2013 E350 Wagon, prev 2005 ML 500 SE
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My wife and I test drove the "12 ML550 and the '12 E350 4Matic wagon, back to back. Came home with a sport package wagon with 18" wheels. The overly boosted steering on the ML550 was awful. We drove the ML first, so the difference in feel after stepping into the wagon was immediately apparent. Steering was still more boosted than in my C63, but felt appropriate for its purpose in a wagon. The ride and handling are also much more controlled in the wagon. The acceleration did not feel very far off of that of the ML550, but the DI V6 felt more responsive and also emits a nice little growl. We now have 1200 miles on the wagon and are extremely happy with the choice.
Do you have Sport version? 18" wheels? How's the ride quality?
Do you have Active Multicontour seat? Like it?
I can still change my build specs for a little more time?
Anxiously awaiting my 2013 E.
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M156 ---Thanks for sharing your experience. I love the ML's but do have a 2013 E Wagon on order. Your comparison makes me feel better. I was somewhat disappointed that there was no medium V8/ 4 Matic available in the Wagon, like the E 550 Sedan. It helped that MB upped their game on the 350. A lot of folks reported the ML 550 engine to be quite "addicting" so that says a lot that the E 350 Wagon won out for you.
Do you have Sport version? 18" wheels? How's the ride quality?
Do you have Active Multicontour seat? Like it?
I can still change my build specs for a little more time?
Anxiously awaiting my 2013 E.
Do you have Sport version? 18" wheels? How's the ride quality?
Do you have Active Multicontour seat? Like it?
I can still change my build specs for a little more time?
Anxiously awaiting my 2013 E.