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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 05:58 AM
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I searched the forum and the owners manual but can't find any info as to where to place jackstands on the W212.

There's two issues I'm seeing.

First, older MB's have centrally located jack points where you can lift the vehicle and then place jackstands on the sides of the car. AFAIK, the W212 has no such jacking points, and so if you jack from the sides, you can't place a jackstand in the correct side location.

Second, the side jacking points are shaped to accept the jacking saddle of the spare tire jack. However, no jackstand has this shape to fit the jacking point, and adapters I've seen online are only to facilitate the use of floor jacks, and not to fit jackstands.

So, even if I could get the front or the rear of the car up, there's no where to properly place jackstands and I don't want to take guesses as to where I can place jackstands on the bottom of the car.

Any help?
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 08:14 AM
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man, this would be an awesome idea for learning how to jack one of these cars up,
so you could jack it
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brauhaus313
I searched the forum and the owners manual but can't find any info as to where to place jackstands on the W212.

There's two issues I'm seeing.

First, older MB's have centrally located jack points where you can lift the vehicle and then place jackstands on the sides of the car. AFAIK, the W212 has no such jacking points, and so if you jack from the sides, you can't place a jackstand in the correct side location.

Second, the side jacking points are shaped to accept the jacking saddle of the spare tire jack. However, no jackstand has this shape to fit the jacking point, and adapters I've seen online are only to facilitate the use of floor jacks, and not to fit jackstands.

So, even if I could get the front or the rear of the car up, there's no where to properly place jackstands and I don't want to take guesses as to where I can place jackstands on the bottom of the car.

Any help?
I've had this problem starting with our 2004 E320. My old 300E has rubber bumpers where you can place jack stands. Nothing on the newer cars.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by brauhaus313
I searched the forum and the owners manual but can't find any info as to where to place jackstands on the W212.

There's two issues I'm seeing.

First, older MB's have centrally located jack points where you can lift the vehicle and then place jackstands on the sides of the car. AFAIK, the W212 has no such jacking points, and so if you jack from the sides, you can't place a jackstand in the correct side location.

Second, the side jacking points are shaped to accept the jacking saddle of the spare tire jack. However, no jackstand has this shape to fit the jacking point, and adapters I've seen online are only to facilitate the use of floor jacks, and not to fit jackstands.

So, even if I could get the front or the rear of the car up, there's no where to properly place jackstands and I don't want to take guesses as to where I can place jackstands on the bottom of the car.

Any help?
How about ramps?
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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I used to rotate my wheels and ramps wouldn't work for that.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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I used to rotate my wheels and ramps wouldn't work for that.
Good example of what they wouldn't work for. Guess it depends upon what one wants to do.
I personally haven't rotated my tires....umm....like....ever. I have had staggered setups on my previous MBs going back 12 years starting w/my 2000 SL500.
Seems like a lot of work compared to driving to a local shop and have them do if for you; either at the dealer or where the tires were purchased, and generally for free.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Good example of what they wouldn't work for. Guess it depends upon what one wants to do.
I personally haven't rotated my tires....umm....like....ever. I have had staggered setups on my previous MBs going back 12 years starting w/my 2000 SL500.
Seems like a lot of work compared to driving to a local shop and have them do if for you; either at the dealer or where the tires were purchased, and generally for free.
I don't do it anymore but I have a 20 year old 300E that I did all the service on for most of it's life. The only time it went to a dealer was to have the transmission serviced.

As for having he dealer rotate the wheels, I've had that done twice and got charged $30 for it. Then they didn't even bother changing the tire pressures.

Since I buy my tires from Tire Rack, I don't get free tire rotations.

Anyway, there were a lot of cost cutting changes made since my '91 W124 was manufactured and the disappearance of the rubber bumpers was just one of them.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Someone actually sells jack pad for our cars and they fit perfectly. Speak to Fred to get yourself one.

http://www.ReverseLogic.us/
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by oggie
Someone actually sells jack pad for our cars and they fit perfectly. Speak to Fred to get yourself one.

http://www.ReverseLogic.us/
The advantage of the rubber pads on the older cars was that you could use both the car jack and a jack stand.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by oggie
Someone actually sells jack pad for our cars and they fit perfectly. Speak to Fred to get yourself one.

http://www.ReverseLogic.us/
I wish your suggestion were the magic bullet, unfortunately, as I mentioned in my OP, jackpads are useless to help place jackstands under the car.

I need a jackstand solution because I want to do some suspension work. I will have to get under the car, and don't want to do that with just floor jacks supporting the car.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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But don't you need to jack up your car before you can get underneath it with a jack stand?
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by oggie
But don't you need to jack up your car before you can get underneath it with a jack stand?

Wait a minute....who's on first?

Did you read the entirety of my original post? I'm not trying to be a dick, but its all spelled out there, and I think other contributors are getting the issue.

Jacking the car from the subframe would probably be a bad idea right?
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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What do you call a man with no arms and no legs laying under a car???

JACK!!
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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You know this is really a valid question and I for one would appreciate a serious answer. I doubt if any of you have used the jack provided with the car but, it really is unusual as jacks go. I used it once and had the car fall off of it. Luckily I had not removed the wheel or I would have had a problem. Anybody have a valid answer?
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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You know this is really a valid question and I for one would appreciate a serious answer. I doubt if any of you have used the jack provided with the car but, it really is unusual as jacks go. I used it once and had the car fall off of it. Luckily I had not removed the wheel or I would have had a problem. Anybody have a valid answer?
Wow that is scary hopefully didn't damage your car at all. Even with your wheels on that jack could do some serious damage under the car or to the side of the car.

I really should learn how to jack up these cars appropriately as well. I prefer using ramps when possible and last MB I had to lift was a W124 which I really did like how the included jack worked, I am sorry they got away from that method I think after the W210 I think?
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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I believe that on the W211's you could jack the car up by the front sub frame and differential thereby providing a location to place the jack stands. I would assume the same would be true for the W212. But don't take my word alone for it. I would suggest searching the W211 threads. In additions there were jack pads available to preclude damaging the undercarriage with the jack stand.
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