Ordering a new 2013 e350?
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So the dealer said my car will be built the last week of june and be at the dealership by beginning of August. Ok so this is what I ordered:
-e350 4Matic. Luxury Sedan
-black with black MB Tex
-Drivers Assistance Package
-Parktronic
-P2 packagage
-Rear Split fold seats
I am trying to get ash wood instead of burl walnut wood. Dealer said it is not possible since ash wood comes only in the sport package, but will look into it. Also, I noticed the seats in some MB Tex cars are better padded than others. The dealer said the luxury seats are more padded. Can someone explain? I want to make sure the order is correct.
-e350 4Matic. Luxury Sedan
-black with black MB Tex
-Drivers Assistance Package
-Parktronic
-P2 packagage
-Rear Split fold seats
I am trying to get ash wood instead of burl walnut wood. Dealer said it is not possible since ash wood comes only in the sport package, but will look into it. Also, I noticed the seats in some MB Tex cars are better padded than others. The dealer said the luxury seats are more padded. Can someone explain? I want to make sure the order is correct.
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So the dealer said my car will be built the last week of june and be at the dealership by beginning of August. Ok so this is what I ordered:
-e350 4Matic. Luxury Sedan
-black with black MB Tex
-Drivers Assistance Package
-Parktronic
-P2 packagage
-Rear Split fold seats
I am trying to get ash wood instead of burl walnut wood. Dealer said it is not possible since ash wood comes only in the sport package, but will look into it. Also, I noticed the seats in some MB Tex cars are better padded than others. The dealer said the luxury seats are more padded. Can someone explain? I want to make sure the order is correct.
-e350 4Matic. Luxury Sedan
-black with black MB Tex
-Drivers Assistance Package
-Parktronic
-P2 packagage
-Rear Split fold seats
I am trying to get ash wood instead of burl walnut wood. Dealer said it is not possible since ash wood comes only in the sport package, but will look into it. Also, I noticed the seats in some MB Tex cars are better padded than others. The dealer said the luxury seats are more padded. Can someone explain? I want to make sure the order is correct.
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When you quote the dealer, I hope you don't mean the sales person. Most of them are clueless.
I specifically asked about the engine from the dealer principal at my dealership. He told me MB says the 302hp engine is carried over to the 2013 model on the E350 in North America.
I wish I was wrong, I would love 333hp.
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That's also true. Europe would already have that motor by now if it was the case.
There's a simple way to be psychic and predict the future with M-B and most European brands: Just see what's available in Europe now, and you'll see what might be available here, tomorrow.
I would even be surprised if M-B not only screwed the 2010-2011 W212 owners, but ended up screwing the 2013 owners by consistently upping the power by 30 HP by way of putting 333 HP in the 2014 MY facelift model. This is a short term mentality that will lose long term clients. You just don't up the HP or more importantly, change the engine 3 times during 1 cars production run, it's careless and messy business, and they should have had the foresight to get the specs/motor they wanted into the car earlier. Also, a great way to tank the resale of earlier models, though, fortunately for E owners, the buyers here aren't of Mustang/Camaro kin, as they probably won't care or even know about different engines. The W211 E350 didn't really change the W211 E320's resale, and those are drastically different motors (liters, etc.).
There's a simple way to be psychic and predict the future with M-B and most European brands: Just see what's available in Europe now, and you'll see what might be available here, tomorrow.
I would even be surprised if M-B not only screwed the 2010-2011 W212 owners, but ended up screwing the 2013 owners by consistently upping the power by 30 HP by way of putting 333 HP in the 2014 MY facelift model. This is a short term mentality that will lose long term clients. You just don't up the HP or more importantly, change the engine 3 times during 1 cars production run, it's careless and messy business, and they should have had the foresight to get the specs/motor they wanted into the car earlier. Also, a great way to tank the resale of earlier models, though, fortunately for E owners, the buyers here aren't of Mustang/Camaro kin, as they probably won't care or even know about different engines. The W211 E350 didn't really change the W211 E320's resale, and those are drastically different motors (liters, etc.).
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Europe has had the DFI engine since the intro of the W212. The reason NA did not get it is due to the poor quality fuel we have here. It took MB until last year to make "fool proof" changes so the DFI engines would function here. Porsche and BMW did not do their homework and have had fuel pump problems when they introduced the first DFI's. My wife was the recipient of one of those marvels in her 2007 335i coupe.
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Not correct according to the 2013 dealer order guide. It reports all engines carry over from 2012 except for the new E400.
Also, I suggest that you get the dealer to clarify the 7.5% off MSRP. Is that including discounts such as loyalty and/or conquest cash? Some people have been burned by dealers playing fast and loose with how they are going to get to a given discount level.
Also, I suggest that you get the dealer to clarify the 7.5% off MSRP. Is that including discounts such as loyalty and/or conquest cash? Some people have been burned by dealers playing fast and loose with how they are going to get to a given discount level.
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I think 2013 will be a short MY run with the facelifted '14 going on sale early next year/spring. The current 6 will get a power boost across the line. Either way the revised E is moving in the right direction for sure!
Here's further confirmation http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...class.html?m=1
Here's further confirmation http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...class.html?m=1
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My dealer also told me that there would be a new turbo 333hp V6 engine for 2013 E350. Additionally, he said that the 2013 models would also have the facelift changes. However, he didn't yet have the 2013 dealer ordering guide so he wasn't able to supply more specifics. Time will tell as to what the facts are to be.
There are a couple of more changes. The Harmon Kardon unit is now a separate item and is not included in the P1 package. There is another high-end sound system from B&O which is also available for $6500.
There are a couple of more changes. The Harmon Kardon unit is now a separate item and is not included in the P1 package. There is another high-end sound system from B&O which is also available for $6500.
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http://mercedes-benz-blog.blogspot.com/2012/05/spy-2013-mercedes-benz-e-class-facelift_28.html
Comments people?
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You guys are hilarious.
There is no facelift for MY13. There are no engine changes for MY13 except the addition of the 400H. These are the changes:
New “Style Guide” colour scheme for instrument cluster and all headunits
BlueEfficiency badge removed from fenders
Polished stainless steel beltline trim standard for all models
New chrome electronic key with AMG emblem for E 63 AMG
ECO driving monitor in instrument cluster display
Digital operator’s manual in COMAND
Paint Changes:
149 - Polar White New
988 – Diamond Silver New
650 – Calcite White Deleted
E 300 4MATIC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 350 4MATIC Sedan & Wagon – SoP June 2012
E 350 BlueTEC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 550 4MATIC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 63 AMG Sedan & Wagon – SoP June 2012
There is no facelift for MY13. There are no engine changes for MY13 except the addition of the 400H. These are the changes:
New “Style Guide” colour scheme for instrument cluster and all headunits
BlueEfficiency badge removed from fenders
Polished stainless steel beltline trim standard for all models
New chrome electronic key with AMG emblem for E 63 AMG
ECO driving monitor in instrument cluster display
Digital operator’s manual in COMAND
Paint Changes:
149 - Polar White New
988 – Diamond Silver New
650 – Calcite White Deleted
E 300 4MATIC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 350 4MATIC Sedan & Wagon – SoP June 2012
E 350 BlueTEC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 550 4MATIC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 63 AMG Sedan & Wagon – SoP June 2012
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BlueEfficiency badge removed from fenders.
Polished stainless steel beltline trim standard for all models.
Can you elaborate on those? What are they?
Polished stainless steel beltline trim standard for all models.
Can you elaborate on those? What are they?
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Just got the news via email! My e350 2013, 4matic Luxury sedan is in production.! They told me June 26th but it got a hell of a head start. Did anyone else get the news? I find this news surprising as my dealer did not tell me if they got the ordering guide yet or give me MSRP on the car yet.
I don't know when the car will be delivered.
I don't know when the car will be delivered.
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Hi all,
Dealer told me last week that my car is built (do not know the actual build date yet). Weird part is that they do not know the pricing for 2013s yet and there have not been any announcements by MB. So the car will arrive in the US on July 2, then to the dealer two weeks after that.
Dealer told me last week that my car is built (do not know the actual build date yet). Weird part is that they do not know the pricing for 2013s yet and there have not been any announcements by MB. So the car will arrive in the US on July 2, then to the dealer two weeks after that.
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The C-Class had updates to the headlights, engine and the interior....
So, It is reasonable believe that the 2013 E-Class may get updated lighting, engine-updates and trim changes.
There is plenty of rumor, renderings and pictures:
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Automobile magazine:
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/caug...ce-133879.html
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AutoBlog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/14/m...elift-spotted/
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Car Magazine Europe:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...-January-2013/
So, It is reasonable believe that the 2013 E-Class may get updated lighting, engine-updates and trim changes.
There is plenty of rumor, renderings and pictures:
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Automobile magazine:
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/caug...ce-133879.html
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AutoBlog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/14/m...elift-spotted/
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Car Magazine Europe:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...-January-2013/
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The C-Class had updates to the headlights, engine and the interior....
So, It is reasonable believe that the 2013 E-Class may get updated lighting, engine-updates and trim changes.
There is plenty of rumor, renderings and pictures:
---
Automobile magazine:
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/caug...ce-133879.html
---
AutoBlog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/14/m...elift-spotted/
--
Car Magazine Europe:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...-January-2013/
So, It is reasonable believe that the 2013 E-Class may get updated lighting, engine-updates and trim changes.
There is plenty of rumor, renderings and pictures:
---
Automobile magazine:
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/caug...ce-133879.html
---
AutoBlog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/14/m...elift-spotted/
--
Car Magazine Europe:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...-January-2013/
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Caption:
Caught! Refreshed 2013 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Hides its New Face. Automobile magazine...
We are all guessing and yes these have been discussed. "2013 will be pretty similar to 2012"... how do you know? Have you seen the pictures of the 2013's? We are not talking a major facelift. These articles are describing headlight changes, trim changes, and possibly a horsepower uptick. The C-Class had some nice updates. Even if they don't uplift... so what ? It's fun discuss the changes possibilities.
My point being that posters are stating as a "matter-of-fact" that there will be little or no-updates. They have no more information than the articles themselves. Personally, I don't think the E-Class needs any changes and I hope they don't change it yet.
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I believe each these articles address the 2013 models..
Caption:
Caught! Refreshed 2013 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Hides its New Face. Automobile magazine...
We are all guessing and yes these have been discussed. "2013 will be pretty similar to 2012"... how do you know? Have you seen the pictures of the 2013's? We are not talking a major facelift. These articles are describing headlight changes, trim changes, and possibly a horsepower uptick. The C-Class had some nice updates. Even if they don't uplift... so what ? It's fun discuss the changes possibilities.
My point being that posters are stating as a "matter-of-fact" that there will be little or no-updates. They have no more information than the articles themselves. Personally, I don't think the E-Class needs any changes and I hope they don't change it yet.
Caption:
Caught! Refreshed 2013 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Hides its New Face. Automobile magazine...
We are all guessing and yes these have been discussed. "2013 will be pretty similar to 2012"... how do you know? Have you seen the pictures of the 2013's? We are not talking a major facelift. These articles are describing headlight changes, trim changes, and possibly a horsepower uptick. The C-Class had some nice updates. Even if they don't uplift... so what ? It's fun discuss the changes possibilities.
My point being that posters are stating as a "matter-of-fact" that there will be little or no-updates. They have no more information than the articles themselves. Personally, I don't think the E-Class needs any changes and I hope they don't change it yet.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/06...-its-2013.html
I think it's official. A few weeks ago it was more in the air.
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Yeah it is fun, but I'm basing my info straight from MB:
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/06...-its-2013.html
I think it's official. A few weeks ago it was more in the air.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/06...-its-2013.html
I think it's official. A few weeks ago it was more in the air.
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Facelift will be a 2014 MY in the U.S. These articles are just as bad as the journalists who have one-track minds when testing cars for the same magazines. They refer to 2013 models because that's the year the facelift will be unveiled for the EUROPEAN markets. EU always gets their M-B's several months in advance, and then the U.S follows with the next MY.
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Regardless of when they do the changes, I will really miss the Pontoon reference line on rear panel and the quad headlights, especially the quad headlights. To me this always set the "E" class apart from the other M-B's.
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It is doubtful the ponton fender will be eliminated on the 2014. Mid cycle uptades are usually minor in nature and don't include restamping metal fenders. Cosmetic changes like headlightts and grills are more common.
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Not much stuff about the stuff either though - "E550 remains unchanged" My dealer said he was pretty confident multi-contour seat option would exist for passenger, but beyond that he didn't know much. Others here have talked about separate option for KeylessGO.
Passenger multi-contour option is a must.
Guidelines in reverse camera would be nice.
4-zone climate control (or even bring the 3-zone to the USA!) would be nice.
Xenons in non-P2 cars would be great.
I'm sure I'm missing a few subtle ones still
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Passenger multi-contour option is a must.
Guidelines in reverse camera would be nice.
4-zone climate control (or even bring the 3-zone to the USA!) would be nice.
Xenons in non-P2 cars would be great.
I'm sure I'm missing a few subtle ones still
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Ponton fenders are one of the most dinstictive stuffs for E Class . So, I would like to see them remain as they are
Parking guides .Actually, I was gonna post a topic about these . I presumed all the MB models come with these parking lines , I know AUDIs and BMWs come with these lines . When I first saw them on the mag , I found them pretty confusing though lol
I presumed pass multi contour seats were avaliable , I would like to have HUD
Parking guides .Actually, I was gonna post a topic about these . I presumed all the MB models come with these parking lines , I know AUDIs and BMWs come with these lines . When I first saw them on the mag , I found them pretty confusing though lol
I presumed pass multi contour seats were avaliable , I would like to have HUD
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Parking guides .Actually, I was gonna post a topic about these . I presumed all the MB models come with these parking lines , I know AUDIs and BMWs come with these lines . When I first saw them on the mag , I found them pretty confusing though lol
I presumed pass multi contour seats were avaliable , I would like to have HUD
I presumed pass multi contour seats were avaliable , I would like to have HUD
MBUSA is pretty clear that multi-contour is a *driver* side option on the 2012 E.
I'm ambivalent to negative on the HUD - seems cool, but I hear on BMW at least it makes windshield replacement a REAL PITA. They fit a special tapered glass windshield *AND* note that placement/fitment precision is critical
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