bigh123

So the dealer said my car will be built the last week of june and be at the dealership by beginning of August. Ok so this is what I ordered:

-e350 4Matic. Luxury Sedan
-black with black MB Tex
-Drivers Assistance Package
-Parktronic
-P2 packagage
-Rear Split fold seats

I am trying to get ash wood instead of burl walnut wood. Dealer said it is not possible since ash wood comes only in the sport package, but will look into it. Also, I noticed the seats in some MB Tex cars are better padded than others. The dealer said the luxury seats are more padded. Can someone explain? I want to make sure the order is correct.

K-A

Whoa, weird. Didn't know about the padding situation. Has anyone else noticed variable paddings, or more on the luxury versions?

petee1997

If that was the case, Europe would have that engine now and they don't.

When you quote the dealer, I hope you don't mean the sales person. Most of them are clueless.

I specifically asked about the engine from the dealer principal at my dealership. He told me MB says the 302hp engine is carried over to the 2013 model on the E350 in North America.

I wish I was wrong, I would love 333hp.

K-A

That's also true. Europe would already have that motor by now if it was the case.

There's a simple way to be psychic and predict the future with M-B and most European brands: Just see what's available in Europe now, and you'll see what might be available here, tomorrow.

I would even be surprised if M-B not only screwed the 2010-2011 W212 owners, but ended up screwing the 2013 owners by consistently upping the power by 30 HP by way of putting 333 HP in the 2014 MY facelift model. This is a short term mentality that will lose long term clients. You just don't up the HP or more importantly, change the engine 3 times during 1 cars production run, it's careless and messy business, and they should have had the foresight to get the specs/motor they wanted into the car earlier. Also, a great way to tank the resale of earlier models, though, fortunately for E owners, the buyers here aren't of Mustang/Camaro kin, as they probably won't care or even know about different engines. The W211 E350 didn't really change the W211 E320's resale, and those are drastically different motors (liters, etc.).

petee1997

Europe has had the DFI engine since the intro of the W212. The reason NA did not get it is due to the poor quality fuel we have here. It took MB until last year to make "fool proof" changes so the DFI engines would function here. Porsche and BMW did not do their homework and have had fuel pump problems when they introduced the first DFI's. My wife was the recipient of one of those marvels in her 2007 335i coupe.

bigh123

I actually got 10% off MSRP plus conquest cash for a civic or USAA pricing and discount, whichever is better when the car is here.

RJC

I think 2013 will be a short MY run with the facelifted '14 going on sale early next year/spring. The current 6 will get a power boost across the line. Either way the revised E is moving in the right direction for sure!

Here's further confirmation http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...class.html?m=1

larrygaddis

The 2013 guide doesn't say anything about a larger engine or facelift changes. There are two new colors though and keyless go can be bought as a separate option. Mbrace2 is now standard. Haven't seen new base prices yet.

bigh123

Here is another blog post apparently about MY2014 AND MY2013:

http://mercedes-benz-blog.blogspot.com/2012/05/spy-2013-mercedes-benz-e-class-facelift_28.html

Comments people?

YYZ-E55

You guys are hilarious.

There is no facelift for MY13. There are no engine changes for MY13 except the addition of the 400H. These are the changes:

New “Style Guide” colour scheme for instrument cluster and all headunits

BlueEfficiency badge removed from fenders

Polished stainless steel beltline trim standard for all models

New chrome electronic key with AMG emblem for E 63 AMG

ECO driving monitor in instrument cluster display

Digital operator’s manual in COMAND

Paint Changes:
149 - Polar White New
988 – Diamond Silver New
650 – Calcite White Deleted

E 300 4MATIC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 350 4MATIC Sedan & Wagon – SoP June 2012
E 350 BlueTEC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 550 4MATIC Sedan – SoP June 2012
E 63 AMG Sedan & Wagon – SoP June 2012

K-A

BlueEfficiency badge removed from fenders.

Polished stainless steel beltline trim standard for all models.

Can you elaborate on those? What are they?

bigh123

Just got the news via email! My e350 2013, 4matic Luxury sedan is in production.! They told me June 26th but it got a hell of a head start. Did anyone else get the news? I find this news surprising as my dealer did not tell me if they got the ordering guide yet or give me MSRP on the car yet.

I don't know when the car will be delivered.

bigh123

Hi all,

Dealer told me last week that my car is built (do not know the actual build date yet). Weird part is that they do not know the pricing for 2013s yet and there have not been any announcements by MB. So the car will arrive in the US on July 2, then to the dealer two weeks after that.

jvc300

The C-Class had updates to the headlights, engine and the interior....
So, It is reasonable believe that the 2013 E-Class may get updated lighting, engine-updates and trim changes.

There is plenty of rumor, renderings and pictures:
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Automobile magazine:
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/caug...ce-133879.html
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AutoBlog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/14/m...elift-spotted/
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Car Magazine Europe:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...-January-2013/

bigh123

These articles have been discussed before. They are for 2014 or 2015 models. 2013 will be pretty similar to 2012.

jvc300

I believe each these articles address the 2013 models..

Caption:
Caught! Refreshed 2013 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Hides its New Face. Automobile magazine...

We are all guessing and yes these have been discussed. "2013 will be pretty similar to 2012"... how do you know? Have you seen the pictures of the 2013's? We are not talking a major facelift. These articles are describing headlight changes, trim changes, and possibly a horsepower uptick. The C-Class had some nice updates. Even if they don't uplift... so what ? It's fun discuss the changes possibilities.
My point being that posters are stating as a "matter-of-fact" that there will be little or no-updates. They have no more information than the articles themselves. Personally, I don't think the E-Class needs any changes and I hope they don't change it yet.

bigh123

Yeah it is fun, but I'm basing my info straight from MB:

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/06...-its-2013.html

I think it's official. A few weeks ago it was more in the air.

jvc300

Hmmmm... nothing about restyling.... Just more stuff....

K-A

Facelift will be a 2014 MY in the U.S. These articles are just as bad as the journalists who have one-track minds when testing cars for the same magazines. They refer to 2013 models because that's the year the facelift will be unveiled for the EUROPEAN markets. EU always gets their M-B's several months in advance, and then the U.S follows with the next MY.

El Cid

Regardless of when they do the changes, I will really miss the Pontoon reference line on rear panel and the quad headlights, especially the quad headlights. To me this always set the "E" class apart from the other M-B's.

petee1997

It is doubtful the ponton fender will be eliminated on the 2014. Mid cycle uptades are usually minor in nature and don't include restamping metal fenders. Cosmetic changes like headlightts and grills are more common.

rlsolomon

Not much stuff about the stuff either though - "E550 remains unchanged" My dealer said he was pretty confident multi-contour seat option would exist for passenger, but beyond that he didn't know much. Others here have talked about separate option for KeylessGO.

Passenger multi-contour option is a must.
Guidelines in reverse camera would be nice.
4-zone climate control (or even bring the 3-zone to the USA!) would be nice.
Xenons in non-P2 cars would be great.

I'm sure I'm missing a few subtle ones still

Richard

BenzV12

Ponton fenders are one of the most dinstictive stuffs for E Class . So, I would like to see them remain as they are

Parking guides .Actually, I was gonna post a topic about these . I presumed all the MB models come with these parking lines , I know AUDIs and BMWs come with these lines . When I first saw them on the mag , I found them pretty confusing though lol

I presumed pass multi contour seats were avaliable , I would like to have HUD

rlsolomon

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought parking guides were NOT available on the USA backup camera system?

MBUSA is pretty clear that multi-contour is a *driver* side option on the 2012 E.

I'm ambivalent to negative on the HUD - seems cool, but I hear on BMW at least it makes windshield replacement a REAL PITA. They fit a special tapered glass windshield *AND* note that placement/fitment precision is critical

Richard

BM2BZ

it's on most of other cars a few years but not mercedes yet.