Ordering a new 2013 e350?
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Ordering a new 2013 e350?
Hi all,
I'm a recent watcher and new poster to this board. I am about to order a new e350 since we can't find one that is black/black with the driver assistance package. Since they are not making any 2012s, I get a 2013 (which is great since the dealer said it will have 30-40 more hp). Is anyone else ordering one? This is the first time I'm ordering a car. Any tips? The dealer is offering 7.5% off MSRP. I am looking to 10%. There is no 2013 pricing, so I will not know the exact pricing for a couple of weeks.
Thanks
I'm a recent watcher and new poster to this board. I am about to order a new e350 since we can't find one that is black/black with the driver assistance package. Since they are not making any 2012s, I get a 2013 (which is great since the dealer said it will have 30-40 more hp). Is anyone else ordering one? This is the first time I'm ordering a car. Any tips? The dealer is offering 7.5% off MSRP. I am looking to 10%. There is no 2013 pricing, so I will not know the exact pricing for a couple of weeks.
Thanks
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Hi all,
I'm a recent watcher and new poster to this board. I am about to order a new e350 since we can't find one that is black/black with the driver assistance package. Since they are not making any 2012s, I get a 2013 (which is great since the dealer said it will have 30-40 more hp). Is anyone else ordering one? This is the first time I'm ordering a car. Any tips? The dealer is offering 7.5% off MSRP. I am looking to 10%. There is no 2013 pricing, so I will not know the exact pricing for a couple of weeks.
Thanks
I'm a recent watcher and new poster to this board. I am about to order a new e350 since we can't find one that is black/black with the driver assistance package. Since they are not making any 2012s, I get a 2013 (which is great since the dealer said it will have 30-40 more hp). Is anyone else ordering one? This is the first time I'm ordering a car. Any tips? The dealer is offering 7.5% off MSRP. I am looking to 10%. There is no 2013 pricing, so I will not know the exact pricing for a couple of weeks.
Thanks
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Nope. The dealer was surprised when he found out. He does not think it will look too different and pricing info/packages should be available soon.
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Hi,
I had posted a couple weeks ago a quote from MotorTrend Mag that 2013 E would have 333 HP BUT it appears that is not correct. They likely got it confused with the E Hybrid which does have about 333 HP with gasser and
electric combined.
I am hoping 2013 gasser does have 333 but the odds are that it will NOT
If anybody gets their hands on the US Dealers 2013 E Order Guide...please post!
The only solid info seems to be that Arctic White color is cancelled and Polar White takes its place. Polar White is probably less cream color and more appliance white
I had posted a couple weeks ago a quote from MotorTrend Mag that 2013 E would have 333 HP BUT it appears that is not correct. They likely got it confused with the E Hybrid which does have about 333 HP with gasser and
electric combined.
I am hoping 2013 gasser does have 333 but the odds are that it will NOT
If anybody gets their hands on the US Dealers 2013 E Order Guide...please post!
The only solid info seems to be that Arctic White color is cancelled and Polar White takes its place. Polar White is probably less cream color and more appliance white
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Not correct according to the 2013 dealer order guide. It reports all engines carry over from 2012 except for the new E400.
Also, I suggest that you get the dealer to clarify the 7.5% off MSRP. Is that including discounts such as loyalty and/or conquest cash? Some people have been burned by dealers playing fast and loose with how they are going to get to a given discount level.
Also, I suggest that you get the dealer to clarify the 7.5% off MSRP. Is that including discounts such as loyalty and/or conquest cash? Some people have been burned by dealers playing fast and loose with how they are going to get to a given discount level.
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Hi Playbook.
I do like the keyless entry comfort package. Not having to take your key out of your pocket is nice (and for my wife even better). Had it on my Vette and enjoyed not having to get the key out with my hands full. $650 is not a bad number.
Mark
I do like the keyless entry comfort package. Not having to take your key out of your pocket is nice (and for my wife even better). Had it on my Vette and enjoyed not having to get the key out with my hands full. $650 is not a bad number.
Mark
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My dealer also told me that there would be a new turbo 333hp V6 engine for 2013 E350. Additionally, he said that the 2013 models would also have the facelift changes. However, he didn't yet have the 2013 dealer ordering guide so he wasn't able to supply more specifics. Time will tell as to what the facts are to be.
There are a couple of more changes. The Harmon Kardon unit is now a separate item and is not included in the P1 package. There is another high-end sound system from B&O which is also available for $6500.
There are a couple of more changes. The Harmon Kardon unit is now a separate item and is not included in the P1 package. There is another high-end sound system from B&O which is also available for $6500.
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Hi all,
I'm a recent watcher and new poster to this board. I am about to order a new e350 since we can't find one that is black/black with the driver assistance package. Since they are not making any 2012s, I get a 2013 (which is great since the dealer said it will have 30-40 more hp). Is anyone else ordering one? This is the first time I'm ordering a car. Any tips? The dealer is offering 7.5% off MSRP. I am looking to 10%. There is no 2013 pricing, so I will not know the exact pricing for a couple of weeks.
Thanks
I'm a recent watcher and new poster to this board. I am about to order a new e350 since we can't find one that is black/black with the driver assistance package. Since they are not making any 2012s, I get a 2013 (which is great since the dealer said it will have 30-40 more hp). Is anyone else ordering one? This is the first time I'm ordering a car. Any tips? The dealer is offering 7.5% off MSRP. I am looking to 10%. There is no 2013 pricing, so I will not know the exact pricing for a couple of weeks.
Thanks
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It's insane how much dealers and magazines don't know. If the E's facelift was coming this year, not only would it be the softest build up for a facelift I've personally ever experienced, but Europe would already be seeing it on the roads, as they get early MY models before we do. Also, the E's facelift ALWAYS launches coinciding with the next generation S-Class.
On top of that, if M-B is switching to an all new motor a year after an all new motor, Daimler shareholders would have good reason to abandon the company, as massive amounts of R&D to put a new engine in a car for a mere 1 year would be the worst business flub since the Chrysler merger.
On top of that, if M-B is switching to an all new motor a year after an all new motor, Daimler shareholders would have good reason to abandon the company, as massive amounts of R&D to put a new engine in a car for a mere 1 year would be the worst business flub since the Chrysler merger.
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Yesterday I ordered a 2013 E Luxury, Beige with Almond interior, P1, lane warning, and folding rear seat. Dealer said could be ordered but no allocation yet- expected delivery late July or August. They do not know whether any price increases but delivery has increased $30 to $905.
Question: Keyless ignition is now offered as a separate option for $650. Is it worth it?
Question: Keyless ignition is now offered as a separate option for $650. Is it worth it?
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It's insane how much dealers and magazines don't know. If the E's facelift was coming this year, not only would it be the softest build up for a facelift I've personally ever experienced, but Europe would already be seeing it on the roads, as they get early MY models before we do. Also, the E's facelift ALWAYS launches coinciding with the next generation S-Class.
On top of that, if M-B is switching to an all new motor a year after an all new motor, Daimler shareholders would have good reason to abandon the company, as massive amounts of R&D to put a new engine in a car for a mere 1 year would be the worst business flub since the Chrysler merger.
On top of that, if M-B is switching to an all new motor a year after an all new motor, Daimler shareholders would have good reason to abandon the company, as massive amounts of R&D to put a new engine in a car for a mere 1 year would be the worst business flub since the Chrysler merger.
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On top of that, if M-B is switching to an all new motor a year after an all new motor, Daimler shareholders would have good reason to abandon the company, quote by KA
Not only shareholders, but MB owners. I bought my E last March and it will be only 2 years into ownership if they decide to facelift the car with skin changes and a significant change in the motor again. I expected these changes in 2015. If they change the skin mid cycle and motor again, it significantly devalues my current E. I dont know about you guys but that bugs me. Why would i even consider a 2013 swap out when they will definitely change the E completely in 2015. As much as I love my car and i do, im not going to pick up another E if this should occur. I expected this production run to
last at least until 2015. Makes me want to jump brand to the Audi A6 or just bite the bullet and get the CLS.
Not only shareholders, but MB owners. I bought my E last March and it will be only 2 years into ownership if they decide to facelift the car with skin changes and a significant change in the motor again. I expected these changes in 2015. If they change the skin mid cycle and motor again, it significantly devalues my current E. I dont know about you guys but that bugs me. Why would i even consider a 2013 swap out when they will definitely change the E completely in 2015. As much as I love my car and i do, im not going to pick up another E if this should occur. I expected this production run to
last at least until 2015. Makes me want to jump brand to the Audi A6 or just bite the bullet and get the CLS.
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My dealer said best case scenario is BUILD in early July but build to US delivery
is typically 6 weeks.
So, he said DELIVERY best case is late Aug but may slide into Sept. He didn't want to over promise and then be pi$$ed if it wasn't here.
is typically 6 weeks.
So, he said DELIVERY best case is late Aug but may slide into Sept. He didn't want to over promise and then be pi$$ed if it wasn't here.
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On top of that, if M-B is switching to an all new motor a year after an all new motor, Daimler shareholders would have good reason to abandon the company, quote by KA
Not only shareholders, but MB owners. I bought my E last March and it will be only 2 years into ownership if they decide to facelift the car with skin changes and a significant change in the motor again. I expected these changes in 2015. If they change the skin mid cycle and motor again, it significantly devalues my current E. I dont know about you guys but that bugs me. Why would i even consider a 2013 swap out when they will definitely change the E completely in 2015. As much as I love my car and i do, im not going to pick up another E if this should occur. I expected this production run to
last at least until 2015. Makes me want to jump brand to the Audi A6 or just bite the bullet and get the CLS.
Not only shareholders, but MB owners. I bought my E last March and it will be only 2 years into ownership if they decide to facelift the car with skin changes and a significant change in the motor again. I expected these changes in 2015. If they change the skin mid cycle and motor again, it significantly devalues my current E. I dont know about you guys but that bugs me. Why would i even consider a 2013 swap out when they will definitely change the E completely in 2015. As much as I love my car and i do, im not going to pick up another E if this should occur. I expected this production run to
last at least until 2015. Makes me want to jump brand to the Audi A6 or just bite the bullet and get the CLS.
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One said build in early June. Delivery in early July. I don't know who to believe.
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The Daimler shareholders want MB to be competitive since that drives sales, right? BMW has been making significant advances in sales volumes the past several years. Additionally, they have been steadily improving both the mpg and the hp for their engines. The DI engines that were new here in 2012 had been used for the prior 2 years in Europe. I'm sure that the V6 engine will be going down the same line as the prior year's V6 did. I've heard that the new V6 will have a turbo (currently normally aspirated) to gain the increased hp. Whether or not the 2013 E-class gets reskinned is also a marketing driven thing. My dealer told me that many potential customers had been turned off by the rear fender treatment. Note that the C-class facelift did not get the E-class rear for 2012. The interior of the C-class was significantly upgraded as well for 2012 and there exists both the prior year's V6 and the DI-V6 concurrently.
BMW are masters of sharing and sharing over and over again. Those guys design one platform, one engine, one tranny, and they sell several different cars reskined as that. That's why BMW are the most homogenous Luxury Cars out now, and why they have the highest profit margins out there.
BMW would never make a bad enough business decision to put so much R&D into new drivetrains only to discontinue them after a couple of years. If M-B did that, it would be a red-flag as to terrible management.
Engines are very expensive to design and manufacture, which is why they typically are produced for much longer than 2-3 years. BMW's current engines have been around for a while, they do not change to all new ones. They tweak the core ones they have every now and again, which is cheap, relatively speaking.
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The truth will be evident in a few weeks. My lease isn't up until mid next year. If the 2013 E-class gets the engine and facelift changes in 2013, I will have the option to terminate early. If it's 2014, then it will be right at my lease end. No problem either way. I'm also looking at a 2014 CLS as a change of pace.
I'll continue to enjoy my fully optioned ride until the new stuff arrives.
I'll continue to enjoy my fully optioned ride until the new stuff arrives.
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My wife has a 2013 E350 Coupe on order and there will not be any body changes nor will the engine have 333hp. I got the build sheet today showing a build date of June 19th.
Your dealer is ignorant and seriously misinformed. All changes arrive early next year in Europe. Their new model year starts in the Spring and cars are intoduced as 2013 models. Then, later in the Fall of 2013 the same car will be introduced in North America as a 2014 model. That car will have the European updates ie:small front end changes to the headlights and have a 333hp engine. Don't expect the ponton fender to disappear. MB usually makes small cometic changes mid cycle but normally don't restamp body panels.
The mix up comes from a British magazine detailing some of the changes to the 2013 E class which is a 2014 for us. Europe always gets changes first, North America 2nd.
Your dealer is ignorant and seriously misinformed. All changes arrive early next year in Europe. Their new model year starts in the Spring and cars are intoduced as 2013 models. Then, later in the Fall of 2013 the same car will be introduced in North America as a 2014 model. That car will have the European updates ie:small front end changes to the headlights and have a 333hp engine. Don't expect the ponton fender to disappear. MB usually makes small cometic changes mid cycle but normally don't restamp body panels.
The mix up comes from a British magazine detailing some of the changes to the 2013 E class which is a 2014 for us. Europe always gets changes first, North America 2nd.
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My wife has a 2013 E350 Coupe on order and there will not be any body changes nor will the engine have 333hp. I got the build sheet today showing a build date of June 19th.
Your dealer is ignorant and seriously misinformed. All changes arrive early next year in Europe. Their new model year starts in the Spring and cars are intoduced as 2013 models. Then, later in the Fall of 2013 the same car will be introduced in North America as a 2014 model. That car will have the European updates ie:small front end changes to the headlights and have a 333hp engine. Don't expect the ponton fender to disappear. MB usually makes small cometic changes mid cycle but normally don't restamp body panels.
The mix up comes from a British magazine detailing some of the changes to the 2013 E class which is a 2014 for us. Europe always gets changes first, North America 2nd.
Your dealer is ignorant and seriously misinformed. All changes arrive early next year in Europe. Their new model year starts in the Spring and cars are intoduced as 2013 models. Then, later in the Fall of 2013 the same car will be introduced in North America as a 2014 model. That car will have the European updates ie:small front end changes to the headlights and have a 333hp engine. Don't expect the ponton fender to disappear. MB usually makes small cometic changes mid cycle but normally don't restamp body panels.
The mix up comes from a British magazine detailing some of the changes to the 2013 E class which is a 2014 for us. Europe always gets changes first, North America 2nd.
