2011 W250 with rust
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2011 W250 with rust
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I just went to a dealer to check out a W212 E250 CDI here in sweden with quite a few km on it 127000km / 78 914 miles and it was really nice in total.
However one thing really bothered me, on the back fenders (?) where the bottom front part of the rear fender meets the side spoiler just there was rust on both left and rear fenders and the paint was cracked around it.
The exact same condition on both sides, that was the really strange thing, if it would be on one side only i could imagine it was caused from something hitting this corner.
Do anyone know or have a clue what could have caused this..
Do you imagine this would be a warranty issue for MB?
Should i walk away from a car with these conditions?
http://www.bytbil.com/bilar/mercedes...pgDL-3DAE8OAA_!
I just went to a dealer to check out a W212 E250 CDI here in sweden with quite a few km on it 127000km / 78 914 miles and it was really nice in total.
However one thing really bothered me, on the back fenders (?) where the bottom front part of the rear fender meets the side spoiler just there was rust on both left and rear fenders and the paint was cracked around it.
The exact same condition on both sides, that was the really strange thing, if it would be on one side only i could imagine it was caused from something hitting this corner.
Do anyone know or have a clue what could have caused this..
Do you imagine this would be a warranty issue for MB?
Should i walk away from a car with these conditions?
http://www.bytbil.com/bilar/mercedes...pgDL-3DAE8OAA_!
Last edited by endor; Jul 15, 2013 at 09:26 AM.
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It appears to be at a MB dealer. Why don't you ask them about the warranty issue?
As a general rule, modern higher end cars don't rust anymore. One can't tell anything from the pictures but rusting around wheelwells is usually caused by rock chips and the like - external causes not covered by the MB rust through warranty
As a general rule, modern higher end cars don't rust anymore. One can't tell anything from the pictures but rusting around wheelwells is usually caused by rock chips and the like - external causes not covered by the MB rust through warranty
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It appears to be at a MB dealer. Why don't you ask them about the warranty issue?
As a general rule, modern higher end cars don't rust anymore. One can't tell anything from the pictures but rusting around wheelwells is usually caused by rock chips and the like - external causes not covered by the MB rust through warranty
As a general rule, modern higher end cars don't rust anymore. One can't tell anything from the pictures but rusting around wheelwells is usually caused by rock chips and the like - external causes not covered by the MB rust through warranty
Waiting for them to call back, just thought i get at second opinion from the gathered experts here.
Seems like a weird place since it's inside/bottom corner on the side facing the doors, and that it's identical on both sides. But it might be that it's been racing in chips, dirt and salt through the line just below the doors and stacking up just at that point and grinding the corners..
Might be a nice place to put some transparent protection film if someone would like to protect their car that could risk to suffer from the same problem if they drive in rough conditions with gravel roads and salt?
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Yep , i've asked them last week if it's a warranty issue and their view on repairing it.
Waiting for them to call back, just thought i get at second opinion from the gathered experts here.
Seems like a weird place since it's inside/bottom corner on the side facing the doors, and that it's identical on both sides. But it might be that it's been racing in chips, dirt and salt through the line just below the doors and stacking up just at that point and grinding the corners..
Might be a nice place to put some transparent protection film if someone would like to protect their car that could risk to suffer from the same problem if they drive in rough conditions with gravel roads and salt?
Waiting for them to call back, just thought i get at second opinion from the gathered experts here.
Seems like a weird place since it's inside/bottom corner on the side facing the doors, and that it's identical on both sides. But it might be that it's been racing in chips, dirt and salt through the line just below the doors and stacking up just at that point and grinding the corners..
Might be a nice place to put some transparent protection film if someone would like to protect their car that could risk to suffer from the same problem if they drive in rough conditions with gravel roads and salt?
A better picture of the actual damage might help. Rail dust often looks like little bits of rust but is actually on the surface. Can you feel it with your fingernail?
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Yes usually there is protective film on the side facing outwards, this was most definitely rust and the paint could be peeled around the edges. I will try to take a picture of the problem areas, if I decide to go further with this deal. I'm having doubts to buy a car for $41000 with rust..
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Rust grows and spreads ... if not fully cleaned to the base medal and properly refinished, it just never seems to go away. Even if MB will fix that portion under warranty, there's bound to be more where you can't see it.
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Yes, exactly agreed with the last two posts as well!
RUN! Thinking about paying this kind of dough for a car with ANY rust on it is nuts! The car is dying a slow death, imagine how compromised crash worthiness and chassis rigidity can be, etc. You'll find a great E, just keep looking.
RUN! Thinking about paying this kind of dough for a car with ANY rust on it is nuts! The car is dying a slow death, imagine how compromised crash worthiness and chassis rigidity can be, etc. You'll find a great E, just keep looking.
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Rust grows and spreads ... if not fully cleaned to the base medal and properly refinished, it just never seems to go away. Even if MB will fix that portion under warranty, there's bound to be more where you can't see it.
Keep looking, your perfect MB is out there waiting for you to find it!
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Yes, exactly agreed with the last two posts as well!
RUN! Thinking about paying this kind of dough for a car with ANY rust on it is nuts! The car is dying a slow death, imagine how compromised crash worthiness and chassis rigidity can be, etc. You'll find a great E, just keep looking.
RUN! Thinking about paying this kind of dough for a car with ANY rust on it is nuts! The car is dying a slow death, imagine how compromised crash worthiness and chassis rigidity can be, etc. You'll find a great E, just keep looking.
Given today's rustproofing methods on modern MBs, I can't imagine seeing real honest to goodness rust on a 2011 car with such low mileage.
If it is rust, then it came from a botched repair following an accident. Galvanized steel doesn't rust easily - even with the paint chipped off.
I suspect it is something other than rust. If it is rust then the OP should stay away from that car.
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Back at the dealer with the rusty W212 today, and the 250 that i referred to in the original post was still there so i crawled down with my camera to take some shots.
There was also a E350 CDI -2010 with 83 440 km on the meter with the exact same symptom, i took some pictures on that one too.
I have a theory that on the swedish roads they pour small sand/gravel on the minor roads in the winter, the major roads is usually salted.
I think you can notice in some pic that there are small stones between the side skirt and the metal.
This is a fact rust.
I am now a happy owner of a 2013 E220 CDI with just 12000km on the meter with no rust.
I will mount mudflaps and also put some protective film on the corner where i spotted the rust on the other cars hoping that my car will be better protected.
It was worth the wait!
There was also a E350 CDI -2010 with 83 440 km on the meter with the exact same symptom, i took some pictures on that one too.
I have a theory that on the swedish roads they pour small sand/gravel on the minor roads in the winter, the major roads is usually salted.
I think you can notice in some pic that there are small stones between the side skirt and the metal.
This is a fact rust.
I am now a happy owner of a 2013 E220 CDI with just 12000km on the meter with no rust.
I will mount mudflaps and also put some protective film on the corner where i spotted the rust on the other cars hoping that my car will be better protected.
It was worth the wait!
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I am an owner of a car that looked like the pictures in the post above. Since it only has 45000 km on the meter and not yet 2 years I am very disapionted with the quality, even if the dealer repaired it without any questions. I live in Sweden but do not agree that the problem would be caused by the road maintanence. My damage came from underneath the paint. Since M-B mixing parts of steel with aluminum I rader suspect galvanic corosion.
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W212 E200 CGI with rust
I forgott to tell that before I bought thw W212 I had a W211 with similar problems. When I spoke to my dealer about it the said that M-B wouldn´t take any responsible due to the age of the car. (it was a 2004 model)
