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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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The H7 bulb must be user replaceable. Get some hyperwhite Halogen bulbs and call it a day.
+1. Only reasonable (and legal) option.

Originally Posted by ph350
Thats what I thought, I can't be as easy as buying the upgraded lights and pluging them in. Even if you can live without the adaptive beam function, I don't think the sensors for the automatic high beams would function. The high beams would be on all the time and that would be dangerous.
From looking at the wiring diagram it seems like both light units receive signals on the CAN bus to tell them what mode they should be in, as in high beam, low beam, or various stages of in between and different angles on the adaptive headlight. I don't know if the CAN signaling is the same for both lights in the cars and the non-adaptive ones just simply ignore the extra information or the adaptive ones receive special data stream enabled by custom coding.

I would assume the adaptive ones have a sort of "limp mode" where they would operate on the limited CAN data stream of the non-adaptive lights, but this is all just speculation as I have yet to look into what the data stream looks like and quite honestly I have no real urge to do so.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by benyl
The H7 bulb must be user replaceable. Get some hyperwhite Halogen bulbs and call it a day.
What is a hyper white halogen bulb? Is it same as HID headlamp?
Does any of these produce a matching / similar light to LED lights?
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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Yeah on the non lighting cars , the high brights look almost Amber yellow bright.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pamiboy
What is a hyper white halogen bulb? Is it same as HID headlamp?
Does any of these produce a matching / similar light to LED lights?
The two best halogen bulbs with the brightest and whitest light available on the market currently are:
http://store.candlepower.com/bconibr90ulh4.html
http://store.candlepower.com/bfcopotphxtp.html

These will be brighter and whiter than your stock OEM bulbs but they're not gimmick-y blue that actually emit less light than an OEM. I use Sylvanya Silverstar ULTRA lights on my motorcycle and they're also bright: https://www.sylvania.com/en-us/produ...tar-ultra.aspx

The only downside to these blubs vs. the OEM one is cost and lifespan. They cost a bit more and don't last as long but the extra light is worth it IMO.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:53 PM
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So these extra white halogen bulbs which you suggested can be simply plugged in and it will work?
If they have more lighting power won't they consume more electricity and mess with the allotted power to the headlights?
Also I assume it will not be available at MB dealerships and will void the warranty, correct?
Kindly excuse me for asking such stupid questions. Anyway this forum rocks….
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pamiboy
So these extra white halogen bulbs which you suggested can be simply plugged in and it will work?
If they have more lighting power won't they consume more electricity and mess with the allotted power to the headlights?
Also I assume it will not be available at MB dealerships and will void the warranty, correct?
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They are the same wattage and dimension as the factory OEM halogen bulbs. The difference is that they are more efficient converting electricity to light rather than heat so they are brighter. But since they use different material in the filament to achieve such higher efficiency their life expectancy is shorter and they cost more. Car manufacturers rather give you a bit dimmer lights for less cost and longer lifespan while still providing adequate lighting.

They will not void any kind of warranty but the halogen bulb warranty which I think is to be expected. So if the bulb goes out you have to buy another one on your own.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 10:35 PM
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That's awesome...
I will consider changing it during my next service. But can you let me know what is the exact specification of the bulbs for E350..? or do all cars use the same standard one ?
Are they available in most auto shops or I have to get from those website links ??
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The E-class uses standard H7 bulbs for high-beam. You don't need to wait until your next service, it is a very simple procedure, I'm sure you can do it yourself if you can replace a light bulb in your house you can do it on the car too.

I know Walmart carries the Sylvania Silverstar ULTRA lights as that is where I bought my set. The other two are probably harder to get locally.

I have attached the pertinent service manual document on how to replace the light bulbs. It's really not a big deal.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:24 AM
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I don't think you want to drive around with your highbeams on all the time. If you only want the look, then check out the link. These are led bulbs that have the look of the led light. They claim it is the closest match to hid systems.


http://www.bimmian.com/WeissLicht-LE...for-BMW-E70-X5
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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I don't think you want to drive around with your highbeams on all the time. If you only want the look, then check out the link. These are led bulbs that have the look of the led light. They claim it is the closest match to hid systems.


http://www.bimmian.com/WeissLicht-LE...for-BMW-E70-X5
Here we go again...

I don't think OP wants to drive around with the high-beam on all the time but he sure would like to use it on occasion. And when such occasion arises he'd like to actually use it for its intended purpose. The bulbs you linked to would fail to serve such purpose.

From the link you posted: "Although no current LED bulb can project like a conventional bulb" End of story.These lights are s*!t.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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Thanks Greg for the information. I will look out for these lamps in the stores.
Candlepower seems to be distributor rather than a manufacturer. Isn't it? And that too I have to order online. I had a look at the spectrum LEDs website, but as you said they seem more suited as indicator / reversing lamps for BMW rather than actual high beams ( not interested anyway).
I will let you guys know whenever I do the upgrade. Thanks again everyone for your help.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Correct on all accounts. Candlepower is just a seller for the Phillips, Osram, Sylvania lights. Osram and Sylvania are made by the same manufacturer but they're different specs. You can buy these lights from any retailer, I never bought anything from candlepower I just shared the link for the bulbs.

As for those LED lights, there are two types of lights on our cars. Ones to see and ones to be seen. There is no aftermarket LED light bulb suitable "to see". As for "to be seen" they might not be optimal but serve the purpose and "look cool" so sacrificing a bit of visibility or causing a bit more glare is OK for some.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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I'm debating between silver star ultra or silver star ZXe. I believe both of them are more or less equally bright, but which of them most closely approximates the low beam LEDs in E 350 ( color wise)? Thanks.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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I just asked a question. You can think what you like.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 04:05 PM
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so, there's actually no point in this mod?
There isn't. Some of those hyperwhite bulbs use a coating to get the correct color. In doing so, you are reducing the usable light and decreasing the performance of your highbeams for the sake of having matched color.

Seems silly.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Where I live there are a lot of hills, blind curves and animals such as deers which frequently cross roads and no street lights. That's one reason for wanting some more powerful headlights. I don't flash at oncoming traffic anyway, even though the traffic here is way minimal.
Now about matching colors..yes I don't like it when I use the high beam to see at night and I see two different colors (white below and yellow above). From this thread I am getting the impression that with the above mentioned bulbs I could get some more light with whiter color.
If you guys strongly believe that this is not a worthwhile effort then I might rethink.
Ideally I should have got the car with lighting package. I'm just trying to make the best out the situation as I like my car very much. Cheers.

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I used to try to get the LED headlight for my E but dealer said its impossible, so i did the illuminated star and be happy with it, even though i found some LED headlight on ebay abt $650 each, but just dont want to think abt it since if i try to modify it, i will lose the warranty on my car. Just share the pic of me E with u guys

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Aah, I haven't posted here in forever! But anyways the old way of thinking that LED's from the aftermarket are no inferior to halogens and filament blinkers is OBSOLETE
I've just installed a pair of 9005 40W LED bulbs rated at 2400Lm and they blow my old halogens away in both daylight running lamp mode and hi-beams. I could have went even brighter and got the 50W bulbs but that's overkill

Hey a post is worthless without pics though right?

Here is a video of someone using LED's for foglights and high beams, he does a side by side comparison and it blows halogen away.

Exhibit B: 2010 Subaru using LED's in lows and highs

Here a 2015 with full LED's even in the blinkers

50W LED blinkers in this Audi A4, error free at that

Here's a Tundra with LED's in the blinkers. Completely overwhelms the filament blinker on the driver's side

I paid $70 for my pair and couldn't be happier.

It's 2014 guys... Aftermarket LED not only matches but out-performs factory halogen and filaments. Look up CREE XML2 LED chips

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