Sport package + Comfort Suspension
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The only code differentiators I am aware of is the 677 code which specifies the "Comfort Suspension" with the Sport Package. On the other hand, code 167 calls out the Luxury Package with 17 inch wheels and Comfort Suspension. However, sometimes when you go to a different model E400 vs E350, for example, the codes may change and the 4Matic may be different from the rear wheel drive. Whatever the case, my opinion is that the lowered and stiffer suspension combined with the low aspect ratio tires are invitations for bent wheels and trashed front air dams. After shelling out $1,100 each for bent AMG rims and $2,200 for replacing front air dams, some folks are on their last nerve with that expense for any slight handling advantage they might provide. Personally, I wouldn't take any sedan over 100 without a roll bar and a 5 point harness, it's just not worth it, but then I don't heal as fast as in my younger racing days.
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New owner of CPO '12 E350 wagon. I too have had some confusion over the whole sport package/comfort suspension. This is a portion of the build sheet for my vehicle.
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Easily confusing because in this case the Comfort Suspension is a call out under the 17" wheel option. In other cases it is a separate line item if you don't have the 17" but rather the 18". At any rate you can find it on the build sheet either way.
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Thanks - so from the sheet for my vehicle would you say I have a sport appearance with the regular comfort suspension because of the 17" wheels, or do I also have the slightly lowered suspension and slightly firmer suspension set up (although perhaps not as firm as the true air attic sport setting or AMG sport suspension) but still on 17"s? I'm actually happy with the ride as it stands, so it's really more of a "want to know" situation. Thanks.
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You have the comfort suspension. That is ... softer and higher than the Sport. That suspension together with the higher aspect ratio of the tires on your car is the best combination for ride and handling on today's crazy roads.
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I stopped worrying if I had the std sport or comfort suspension in my car, but when this thread came back to life again I figured I'd give it the 'ol college try again.
My car is a 2012 E550 4Matic (USA). Per the Build Sheet from konigstiger (thanks again!), here's what I see:
* 677 AVANTGARDE/STANDARD SUSPENSION
* 951 SPORT-PACKAGE USA
* I see zero mention of COMFORT anything
* See post #8 for the Build Sheet: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ering-buy.html
Therefore, my reformed hypothesis is now "AVANTGARDE/STANDARD SUSPENSION" is standard steel springs. A softer "COMFORT SUSPENSION" or "AIRMATIC SUSPENSION" would be noted as such, if it's on the car. Furthermore, "AVANTGARDE/STANDARD SUSPENSION" does not mean "COMFORT SUSPENSION."
Any dissenters?
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Here's some more fuel for the fire. Attached is an except from my '14 E350 build sheet (USA) with the basic 18" (not AMG) 245/40R18 wheels/tires.
I'm gonna go with the opinion that "comfort" in this context simply means steel. Otherwise it is nonsensical.
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I have the 677 suspension and 18 inch wheels on my 2013. My butt tells me that it is not a "comfort" suspension.
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The low aspect ratio tires, as well as the brand also contribute to the ride quality. My experience has been that Michelin has the best blend of ride and performance. Continental, no so much.
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MY17 E43 Matte Selenite/Macchiato Beige, MY16 GLE350d Tenorite/Crystal Grey, MY17 B250
Lowered Comfort Suspension = Code 677
AIRMATIC Suspension = Code 489
All Canadian W212 (non-AMG) have 677, E550 has 489. I'm not sure if any other option was ever certified for North America (perhaps 485 sport suspension was available in Europe).
I'd be curious to know who doesn't have either 677 or 489 on their US build...
AIRMATIC Suspension = Code 489
All Canadian W212 (non-AMG) have 677, E550 has 489. I'm not sure if any other option was ever certified for North America (perhaps 485 sport suspension was available in Europe).
I'd be curious to know who doesn't have either 677 or 489 on their US build...
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I'm too new here to know whether it's preferred to bump an old thread or start a new, so...
Anyhow, my 2011 E350 wagon has the 677 suspension and sport package. Ride is good to me. My question is: does it have air shocks in the back? Haven't gotten under it to look yet. I do not have Airmatic on the code sheet. Just curious as regards ongoing maintenance. The adaptive seat is not working, so I'm eager to check all this stuff out whenever I take that apart back at the pump/motor. Thanks!
Anyhow, my 2011 E350 wagon has the 677 suspension and sport package. Ride is good to me. My question is: does it have air shocks in the back? Haven't gotten under it to look yet. I do not have Airmatic on the code sheet. Just curious as regards ongoing maintenance. The adaptive seat is not working, so I'm eager to check all this stuff out whenever I take that apart back at the pump/motor. Thanks!
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Wagons do have rear air. It is not consider Airmatic as you can't adjust it from the cabin
They switched from hydraulic about year 2000.
If you plan to keep wagon for long time - get some kind of monitoring system that will tell you when compressor works overtime.
They switched from hydraulic about year 2000.
If you plan to keep wagon for long time - get some kind of monitoring system that will tell you when compressor works overtime.
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My 2012 E 350 has the Avantgarde/ sports package with the sport suspension. I love my car but to say the suspension is “firm” would a little bit of an understatement. It handles great but there’s a really obvious difference between the luxury and sport suspension. I was told that if you got the sports package the sport suspension came with it BUT the customer could order the luxury suspension as a no cost option.
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Considering the MY range for the W212, MBUSA terminology is bound to vary.
What caught my eye is what the OP wrote that really confused: "Sport Sedan / Wagon Package" Now, I've never seen that before, meaning there is no "Wagon" in my Sport Sedan.
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Mine, a 2014 sport appearance package specifically said “comfort suspension” as an added feature. If mine is truly the sport suspension, then my struts must all be broken because she’s a softy (just how I like it). It’s pretty amazing actually - corners flat, but floats about too over bumps and dips in the road. I just figured it had the luxury springs with the sport sway bars to keep it that flat in a turn. Whatever it is, I like it a lot.
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Consider also that terms used to describe an order code can change, depending on the datacard source.
For my VIN, one MB Official datacard source describes677 as "677 (Avante Garde/Standard Suspension)",
while another MB Official datacard source describes 677 to mean "677 (DIRECT CONTROL Suspension)".
Go figure?
For my VIN, one MB Official datacard source describes677 as "677 (Avante Garde/Standard Suspension)",
while another MB Official datacard source describes 677 to mean "677 (DIRECT CONTROL Suspension)".
Go figure?
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I posted this on other thread already, Mercedes put very same springs to both 486 Sports and 677 Avantgrade/Standard category, that makes thing even more confusing.
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Interesting that there is one part number specifically for the 677 code and 2 different options for the 486/677 combo for the rear springs.
[EDIT]: Anyone know what these numbers next to the option code mean? (see post above)
[486] 20040715 Sports Suspension
[677] 20071115 Avantgarde/Standard Suspension
[EDIT]: Anyone know what these numbers next to the option code mean? (see post above)
[486] 20040715 Sports Suspension
[677] 20071115 Avantgarde/Standard Suspension
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