It's here W212 E400 4Matic
#26
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Gee, had no idea you did not like that screen, you've only mentioned it 10 times
Op, enjoy the new ride!
Op, enjoy the new ride!
That screen looks like a joke imo. Laziest implementation, I don't know how the designers or MB got away with it with a straight face. Clearly a cost cut implementation to ride the trend or requirements.
As for the glare, not sure about MB's but the 6 Series' I drove had terrible glare when the sun was coming through.
As for the glare, not sure about MB's but the 6 Series' I drove had terrible glare when the sun was coming through.
#27
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
NHTSA, that's what I was thinking - I get my 78 levels of soulless bureaucracy confused
For something of its price point, CLS should have a digital HVAC readout, hell, it was standard (old school style) in my C43. The feel of those wheels as they click around does not befit an 80K+ car, in my opinion. If the new style moves smoothly and has a readout, it might work better.
It would be cool of the W205 screen swiveled or something, too. Clarity was also good on it - that's something MB has done well, the relatively HD quality of screens.
For something of its price point, CLS should have a digital HVAC readout, hell, it was standard (old school style) in my C43. The feel of those wheels as they click around does not befit an 80K+ car, in my opinion. If the new style moves smoothly and has a readout, it might work better.
It would be cool of the W205 screen swiveled or something, too. Clarity was also good on it - that's something MB has done well, the relatively HD quality of screens.
I agree completely. In pictures the screen looks out of place and like a total after thought.
However, after sitting in a W205 I thought that it was the best integration for the user experience. IMO this would have been better implemented if it the screen was storable in one way or another.
The HVAC controls for the pre-fl CLS was actually the same HVAC controls in the W204. It not only looks out of place but it also feels cheap/plastic-y/hollow, especially in a cabin where everything else feels premium.
The picture looks like an updated version of those controls so hopefully it isn't as out of place as it was before.
NHTSA is actually responsible for the lack of advanced headlights of US roads.
However, after sitting in a W205 I thought that it was the best integration for the user experience. IMO this would have been better implemented if it the screen was storable in one way or another.
The HVAC controls for the pre-fl CLS was actually the same HVAC controls in the W204. It not only looks out of place but it also feels cheap/plastic-y/hollow, especially in a cabin where everything else feels premium.
The picture looks like an updated version of those controls so hopefully it isn't as out of place as it was before.
NHTSA is actually responsible for the lack of advanced headlights of US roads.
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That screen looks like a joke imo. Laziest implementation, I don't know how the designers or MB got away with it with a straight face. Clearly a cost cut implementation to ride the trend or requirements.
As for the glare, not sure about MB's but the 6 Series' I drove had terrible glare when the sun was coming through.
As for the glare, not sure about MB's but the 6 Series' I drove had terrible glare when the sun was coming through.
#32
How about glare, smudges from being a touchscreen, and a system which only works about 50% of the time, and is sluggish when it actually does work:
I know Mercedes' COMAND system gets hammered by the media, but I find it to be one of the best, if not the best, system out there right now. The control knob and now touchpad make perfect sense and minimize driver distractions. Same for all of the buttons, like the numeric keypad. Again, the media hammers them on this, but if it's a car you're living with they're wonderful to have.
I know Mercedes' COMAND system gets hammered by the media, but I find it to be one of the best, if not the best, system out there right now. The control knob and now touchpad make perfect sense and minimize driver distractions. Same for all of the buttons, like the numeric keypad. Again, the media hammers them on this, but if it's a car you're living with they're wonderful to have.
#33
Congrats Petee on the new E400 sedan ...
Enjoyed your first impression as the dealer here had just called. Took delivery of our E400 RWD sedan yesterday (the rain let-up long enough for a dry ride home).
First MBZ here - really believe that this car was a good choice. Way too early to offer opinions beyond the cosmetics.
Went with Steel Grey over Crystal Grey/Seashell Grey Nappa with Black Ash trim - a light interior tho' the combination works. Have an appointment here with Premier to add a subtle window tint and paint protective film before we hit the road this winter (or should that be "before the road hits us").
On the short ride home - I too was impressed with the low cabin noise level. Went with the 839 Laminated Acoustic Glass SPC option that may contribute here.
And yes - will be posting some snapshots later when the sun comes back out.
It will be interesting to see how the 3.0L twin-turbo 276 DELA 30 V6 engine compares to my first generation BMW 3.0L twin-turbo N54 I6. The MBZ already has a jump in horsepower and torque. If I'm correct, the MBZ runs at a higher boost of 0.8 bar or 11.6 psi relative to the BMW's 0.6 bar or 8.8 psi)- must be a primary factor.
With the refinement of direct injection, and the associated high-pressure fuel pumps and injectors by both manufacturers - I don't believe that the first generation MBZ 276 turbo will pose some (if any) of the teething problems that plagued the N54. Still enjoy my 335i coupe - nearly 100,000 miles on the clock, but now that the sedan has been checked-off the list, it's next.
Maybe a nice 991 - who knows.
J.
Enjoyed your first impression as the dealer here had just called. Took delivery of our E400 RWD sedan yesterday (the rain let-up long enough for a dry ride home).
First MBZ here - really believe that this car was a good choice. Way too early to offer opinions beyond the cosmetics.
Went with Steel Grey over Crystal Grey/Seashell Grey Nappa with Black Ash trim - a light interior tho' the combination works. Have an appointment here with Premier to add a subtle window tint and paint protective film before we hit the road this winter (or should that be "before the road hits us").
On the short ride home - I too was impressed with the low cabin noise level. Went with the 839 Laminated Acoustic Glass SPC option that may contribute here.
And yes - will be posting some snapshots later when the sun comes back out.
It will be interesting to see how the 3.0L twin-turbo 276 DELA 30 V6 engine compares to my first generation BMW 3.0L twin-turbo N54 I6. The MBZ already has a jump in horsepower and torque. If I'm correct, the MBZ runs at a higher boost of 0.8 bar or 11.6 psi relative to the BMW's 0.6 bar or 8.8 psi)- must be a primary factor.
With the refinement of direct injection, and the associated high-pressure fuel pumps and injectors by both manufacturers - I don't believe that the first generation MBZ 276 turbo will pose some (if any) of the teething problems that plagued the N54. Still enjoy my 335i coupe - nearly 100,000 miles on the clock, but now that the sedan has been checked-off the list, it's next.
Maybe a nice 991 - who knows.
J.
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
Those fingerprints and smudges would drive me insane - maybe I am a little OCD, but I'd need to keep a cleaning cloth in the car to deal with it, I couldn't stand looking at that. Maybe it's because of familiarity, but I don't have much problem with COMAND - I suspect those who are flustered by it are the ones who couldn't set the clock on a microwave 30 years ago. Sometimes address entry is a bit cumbersome, but overall, it's easy after the learning curve.
Just like with the tablet, deal with it for awhile, and it becomes second nature. I'd wager a lot the W213 will either have a tablet, or a smaller variety of the big W222 style screen.
A friend of mine has a higher option 2012 Prius with factory nav, it makes COMAND look like a trillion dollar supercomputer.
Just like with the tablet, deal with it for awhile, and it becomes second nature. I'd wager a lot the W213 will either have a tablet, or a smaller variety of the big W222 style screen.
A friend of mine has a higher option 2012 Prius with factory nav, it makes COMAND look like a trillion dollar supercomputer.
How about glare, smudges from being a touchscreen, and a system which only works about 50% of the time, and is sluggish when it actually does work:
I know Mercedes' COMAND system gets hammered by the media, but I find it to be one of the best, if not the best, system out there right now. The control knob and now touchpad make perfect sense and minimize driver distractions. Same for all of the buttons, like the numeric keypad. Again, the media hammers them on this, but if it's a car you're living with they're wonderful to have.
I know Mercedes' COMAND system gets hammered by the media, but I find it to be one of the best, if not the best, system out there right now. The control knob and now touchpad make perfect sense and minimize driver distractions. Same for all of the buttons, like the numeric keypad. Again, the media hammers them on this, but if it's a car you're living with they're wonderful to have.
#35
Two screen: one touch, the other not.
Seems to me mktg missed the point here. Sure, you can do it - but, why?
Is this an Infiniti Q50 nee G37?
P.S. My Lexus touch screens don't / didn't suffer from nearly his many ugly smudges. And they're far from new. Seems some are more susceptible than others.
Seems to me mktg missed the point here. Sure, you can do it - but, why?
Is this an Infiniti Q50 nee G37?
P.S. My Lexus touch screens don't / didn't suffer from nearly his many ugly smudges. And they're far from new. Seems some are more susceptible than others.
Last edited by Johnny Rad; 11-22-2014 at 07:19 PM.
#36
Those fingerprints and smudges would drive me insane - maybe I am a little OCD, but I'd need to keep a cleaning cloth in the car to deal with it, I couldn't stand looking at that. Maybe it's because of familiarity, but I don't have much problem with COMAND - I suspect those who are flustered by it are the ones who couldn't set the clock on a microwave 30 years ago. Sometimes address entry is a bit cumbersome, but overall, it's easy after the learning curve.
Just like with the tablet, deal with it for awhile, and it becomes second nature. I'd wager a lot the W213 will either have a tablet, or a smaller variety of the big W222 style screen.
A friend of mine has a higher option 2012 Prius with factory nav, it makes COMAND look like a trillion dollar supercomputer.
Just like with the tablet, deal with it for awhile, and it becomes second nature. I'd wager a lot the W213 will either have a tablet, or a smaller variety of the big W222 style screen.
A friend of mine has a higher option 2012 Prius with factory nav, it makes COMAND look like a trillion dollar supercomputer.