E-Class (W212) 2010 - 2016: E 350, E 550

Any High Mileage W212's Out There?

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Old 12-18-2015, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by g4benz
I come from Japanese owned vehicles. I had a Honda that hit 280,000 miles without any major hiccups and a Toyota that hit 250,000 miles without any major hiccups. If my 2010 E550 can do the same, I'll be happy! I don't think Toyotas and Hondas are rattly if they can last this long. I'm not referring to build quality here but durability/stamina.
It is odd. In the US, Japanese cars are regarded as reliable and have a huge market share. In Germany, Japanese cars have a miniscule market share and are regarded as unreliable.

Linked are new registration in Germany for the 3rd quarter of 2015. The first column is current ranking while the second column shows 2014 rankings. Golf is #1 and the Honda Civic is at #95. The top Japanes vehicle is the Nissan Qashqai (Rogue) at #28. The C is at #3 and the E is at #27

http://www.kfz-auskunft.de/kfz/zulas...len_2015_3.php

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My German friends just think Japanese cars are dull - not so much unreliable, but just forgettable to look at and drive. Where running a car is vastly more expensive, and even gaining a license takes a lot more work, people might appreciate the driving more (plenty of dull Japanese cars on German roads though).
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Originally Posted by fintail
My German friends just think Japanese cars are dull - not so much unreliable, but just forgettable to look at and drive. Where running a car is vastly more expensive, and even gaining a license takes a lot more work, people might appreciate the driving more (plenty of dull Japanese cars on German roads though).

Number of Japanese and other "dull" cars on German roads exploded since they joined the Euro. The exchange rate was 2 DM to 1 Euro. But they did not change the price stickers on the German cars. They doubled the car pricing just like that.


Naturally people's paychecks were changed to reflect the exchange rate so just overnight German gars became very expensive for German people to buy. Other "dull" cars started to appear and now there are almost more other than German cars on German roads when it used to be almost all German cars.
Old 12-19-2015, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fintail
My German friends just think Japanese cars are dull - not so much unreliable, but just forgettable to look at and drive. Where running a car is vastly more expensive, and even gaining a license takes a lot more work, people might appreciate the driving more (plenty of dull Japanese cars on German roads though).
I guess it depends on the car. A Toyota Supra I do not think is dull. Lexus IFA is not dull. Of course, to each his own.
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67K miles in 2 years on mine. Got a new transmission at 35K, things have been fine since...
That tranny replacement sound terrifying
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That tranny replacement sound terrifying
It sure does and 67k in 2 years sounds like a lot of driving in a short period of time. I wonder what effect if any did that have on the tranny and if he was using shifter more then a typical driver does?
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Just turned over 100k miles on Friday.
Congrats we are close in miles but I'm not as handy when it comes to cars as you are so, I need to keep in touch with you along the way LOL.
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Originally Posted by CEB
It is odd. In the US, Japanese cars are regarded as reliable and have a huge market share. In Germany, Japanese cars have a miniscule market share and are regarded as unreliable.
Keep in mind that US-spec German cars aren't the same as Euro-spec. In many cases you have completely different parts. Indeed, many of the problems I've had with my W212 don't seem to be common to Canadian and European W212's, but I've seen some of these problems in 100% of the E350's I've driven and I believe I've driven ~6-10 of them this year.

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.... Got a new transmission at 35K, things have been fine since...
I got a new transmission at 48,000 miles under warranty. Nothing was wrong with it...went into dealer for service...came back shifting terribly....3 weeks of teardown to diagnose it and they decided I needed a new transmission.

I'm now at 50000. Very glad I bought the ELW so I can be comfortable with potential problems for the next few years.
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I have an e550 coupe with 79,000 miles. So far I've had to replace the battery for $400 installed and the starter for $1000 installed, both at the dealer. However, my pano sunroof and shade needs to be replaced and my drivers side seat no longer automatically comes forward (Coupe only issue). I can't find any independents to work on the sunroof so I'll be forced to bend over at the dealership. The sunroof was one the main draws for me in the first place.

I just started a new sales job and I'm sure I'll be right around 15k miles a year. I figure as long as I stay up on maintenance and service I should be fine. Other than the hole in the gas tank and the issues mentioned above it has been pretty solid. I can't imagine driving some econo-box again.

Also my seat bolsters and leather (no mbtex) have held up extremely well.
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Originally Posted by eclassportugal
about 330.000 km at this moment on my E250 cdi from 2010

Maybe I'm not reading you correctly, but do you mean 330,000KM? That would be 205,000 miles as per Mr. Google.
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Originally Posted by g4benz
Maybe I'm not reading you correctly, but do you mean 330,000KM? That would be 205,000 miles as per Mr. Google.
yes, my car was used on my transport business. although its 330000 km its in excellent condition in every small detail. Always serviced on MB dealer in portugal.
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Originally Posted by eclassportugal
yes, my car was used on my transport business. although its 330000 km its in excellent condition in every small detail. Always serviced on MB dealer in portugal.
That's excellent. I hope my 550 gets to that # without any major hiccups! I love this car and plan to keep it until she goes bye bye.
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Originally Posted by g4benz
That's excellent. I hope my 550 gets to that # without any major hiccups! I love this car and plan to keep it until she goes bye bye.
but not every thing went well until now we had quite a few issues. the w212 had a lot of issues on the diesel fuel injectors so the were replaced a lot of times until mercedes came with a solution for them. Also a few issues with the terrible DPF filter, and power steering pump also was replaced, all of this on warranty...
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but not every went well until now we had quite a few issues. the w212 had a lot of issues on the diesel fuel injectors so the were replaced a lot of times until mercedes came with a solution for them. Also a few issues with the terrible DPF filter, and power steering pumb also was replaced, all of this on warranty...
Some of those issues are common with MB. I'm out of warranty, so I'll cross my fingers.
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Originally Posted by g4benz
Some of those issues are common with MB. I'm out of warranty, so I'll cross my fingers.
the latest was with the fuel pump on the tank and it was already out of warranty so it was quite expansive to replace.... and now I'm having a small problem when the the temperature is low it stalls when I take it off the garage....
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some of you are scaring me with those problems lol
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Originally Posted by eclassportugal
the latest was with the fuel pump on the tank and it was already out of warranty so it was quite expansive to replace.... and now I'm having a small problem when the the temperature is low it stalls when I take it off the garage....
200k plus is a lot of miles. So I wouldn't think any problems that arise now are unfortunate as much as a something that's due to arise. Hopefully you can get another 100k or more out of it.
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some of you are scaring me with those problems lol
The ones with "big" problems under 100K miles sound like 1) they are hard on cars and/or 2) they are nit-picking every little thing they think they see or hear because the car is under warranty and they have time to burn taking it back and forth to the dealer to complain about it and get loaner cars.

I have 67K miles, everything works and looks perfect on my 2012 E550. Just bought it, but the Carfax shows only regular check-ups every 10K.
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200k plus is a lot of miles. So I wouldn't think any problems that arise now are unfortunate as much as a something that's due to arise. Hopefully you can get another 100k or more out of it.
I know w212 diesel powerd with over 600.000 km and still the same engine... of course small problems appear...
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