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Old 12-13-2015, 08:25 PM
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Any High Mileage W212's Out There?

Just curious about any high mileage w212's out there. My E350 has been a tank since day one. No issues with regular maintenance for now. I am currently at 64k.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:32 PM
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I wouldn't call it high, but 114k.
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I wouldn't call it high, but 114k.
Solid! Any issues thus far?
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110,000KM which is 69,000Miles
Not that but but got the car Zero from the dealership.

good post to see how others are doing !!
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2009 250cdi 370.000 km,
Steeringwheel lock motor error the most annoyng issue.
Timing chain replaced last year at 325000km .. MB did this for free !!!!
bisides that only a few sensor issue along the way.
The milage can be slightly felt on he overall ride, maybe shocks needs to be replaced..
Driver seat lover cover needs replacement..
steeringwheel and pedals were replaced... but the rest of the interiour is very nice

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Solid! Any issues thus far?
It's funny, I was saying the other day that so far this car has been a lot more reliable than my previous Honda Accord. Now that I say that, the engine will fall out tomorrow!

So far the only thing I've done outside of normal maintenance was replace the thermostat (it was stuck open) and the blower fan (it chirped at low speeds). Oddly, the replacement (brand new) made a rubbing sound, but the third one was fine. Both went around 80k.

One thing that amazes me is the leather looks brand new. I've never had leather age as well as it does in this car. It has every option available in the US at the time except for the rear seat entertainment and rear seat air bags, and so far all the gizmos have been trouble free.
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Who is hitting 150,000 - 200,000 miles? Can we expect our cars with proper maintenance to hit 200,000? The 200K figure is "normal" for me coming from the Japanese car world.
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Who is hitting 150,000 - 200,000 miles? Can we expect our cars with proper maintenance to hit 200,000? The 200K figure is "normal" for me coming from the Japanese car world.
Of course you can. MB E diesels are the taxi in Europe and in many other parts of the world. Any modern car is built to go 200k miles before big issues start cropping up.


With any modern car, the electrics are the weakest link, so be careful with any electrical mods. Other than that, 200k is nothing for a Mercedes.


Given the average US driver drives less than 15k miles per year, that 200k is about 13 years of driving - two years over the average age of cars on the road in the US today. To get a proper answer to this question you either need to wait 5 or 6 years and ask again or ask in the forum that caters to the 2002 models.

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I have just over 100k on mines. I think it's at 102k exactly or there abouts. I got it with a ton of miles as I sort of fell into this car. My friends always joke how did you fall into an MB lol.
I had no intentions of ever buying one and after having places try to push several models off on me before I never gave them a chance. Once I was shown the E550 it had everything that I wanted in a vehicle and I fell in love with it. So far normal maintenance issues like plugs, ignition coils and new tires, I've had to deal with. Also I'm due to change the brake pads soon.

I did have a shop that recently did work for me say I have some emissions(purge valve, canisters, etc.) issues that I should get fixed. However, I've had no CEL or performance problems since I changed a coil last week so I'm not sure if they were just trying to get a few extra bucks out of me or 100% truthful.

I detail my findings as I go along and consider myself a guinea pig for this portion of the forum. As long as I still trust this brand I will be upgrading soon than later.
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I have just over 100k on mines. I think it's at 102k exactly or there abouts. I got it with a ton of miles as I sort of fell into this car. My friends always joke how did you fall into an MB lol.
I had no intentions of ever buying one and after having places try to push several models off on me before I never gave them a chance. Once I was shown the E550 it had everything that I wanted in a vehicle and I fell in love with it. So far normal maintenance issues like plugs, ignition coils and new tires, I've had to deal with. Also I'm due to change the brake pads soon.

I did have a shop that recently did work for me say I have some emissions(purge valve, canisters, etc.) issues that I should get fixed. However, I've had no CEL or performance problems since I changed a coil last week so I'm not sure if they were just trying to get a few extra bucks out of me or 100% truthful.

I detail my findings as I go along and consider myself a guinea pig for this portion of the forum. As long as I still trust this brand I will be upgrading soon than later.
You do know that there is a separate emissions warranty of 8 years/80k miles (assuming you are in the US).

While you are over in miles, you are still within the time. Accordingly, it wouldn't hurt to ask MB for a goodwill repair - something manufacturers do regularly if you are still within either time or mileage.

Of course, you'll need the dealer to diagnose the failure and provide an estimate that you can then send to MB along with your letter requesting the goodwill repair.
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Well at 100k, he's over the 80k mileage warranty. It's typically 8 years or 80k, whichever comes first. Also the emissions warranty varies by state, you'd have to check the warranty booklet to see what is actually covered. For instance, if he has a Pzev car, you actually have a 15 year/150k warranty on various emission parts, but only if you're in a Pzev state, in some other non-pzev states, you only get a couple years, not the 15/150k.
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I guess I forgot to mention that I currently have a problem with my drivers side MBTex seat stitching coming apart but wouldn't associate that with overall reliability of the vehicle. Just a minor hiccup.

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You do know that there is a separate emissions warranty of 8 years/80k miles (assuming you are in the US).

While you are over in miles, you are still within the time. Accordingly, it wouldn't hurt to ask MB for a goodwill repair - something manufacturers do regularly if you are still within either time or mileage.

Of course, you'll need the dealer to diagnose the failure and provide an estimate that you can then send to MB along with your letter requesting the goodwill repair.

Thx for the information. I'm not sure if MB will do anything goodwill from me since I didn't purchase the vehicle from them. I'm not sure if that makes a difference but I would think so.
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I guess I forgot to mention that I currently have a problem with my drivers side seat stitching coming apart but wouldn't associate that with overall reliability of the vehicle. Just a minor hiccup.
Is that MBTex or leather?
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Is that MBTex or leather?
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There are quite a few post on this forum about that happening with MBTex. You should definitely look into it. Some people got it repaired for free (warranty) I believe and others got offered discounts on the fix.
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There are quite a few post on this forum about that happening with MBTex. You should definitely look into it. Some people got it repaired for free (warranty) I believe and others got offered discounts on the fix.
I do currently have a thread up on this issue. MB would not cover the cost unfortunately.

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Thx for the information. I'm not sure if MB will do anything goodwill from me since I didn't purchase the vehicle from them. I'm not sure if that makes a difference but I would think so.
Where you bought the car is immaterial. You bought it from somebody who originally bought it from MB. Unless it was a gray market import it was (is) covered by the warranty as it is fully transferrable.


Here's what I would do. Go to the shop that identified the problem (I assume it was a non-MB shop) and ask them if the failure would normally be covered under the Federal 8/80 emissions warranty. If they are a reputable repair shop then they'll know the answer.


If the answer is yes, then ask them to explain to you exactly what the problem is. Once you understand it, go to your computer and start a word document. Say something along the lines of:


I am the owner of a 20xx MB XYZ with the VIN number XXXXXXXXXX. The warranty start date on my car was MM/YYYY.


I currently have 1xx,xxx miles on my car and my left widget has failed.


This failure would normally be covered under the 8/80 Federal Emissions warranty. While I realize that I have exceeded the mileage under this warranty, I am still well within the time portion. I have an upcoming emissions test (assuming that is correct) and I believe the left widget should not have failed this early but for a manufacturing defect.


I request that you authorize ABC dealership to perform a goodwill warranty repair for this failure.


I appreciate your consideration of this request and look forward to remaining a loyal Mercedes customer.


Respectfully,


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Then print it out and put it into an envelope and mail it - registered - to the address in the back of your owners manual.


Why not an email? They are too easy to ignore. Two minutes later your email is off the main screen.


A real registered letter means that somebody needs to sign for it, log it in, send it somebody who can actually do something and then it sits on his or her desk until it is answered. That letter is a constant reminder.


What can happen?


They can ignore you? Very unlikely
They can tell you
"thanks for your letter, pay for the repair yourself"
"thanks for your letter, we will cover the repair"
"thanks for your letter, we'll cover part of the repair"


If they tell you to pound sand then you're out a half hour of time and a few bucks on postage.


Keep us posted.
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Keep us posted.
Great info again. Thanks and it can't hurt so I'll definitely do this and keep everyone posted.
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It is funny, According to the statistics from ADAC (the German AAA) that are published annually based upon their roadside assistance calls, MB and VW are far less prone to failures than are Honda and Toyota. As a matter of fact, the Japanese cars are pretty far down on the list.


Here is the "upper middle class" report from 2014 and shows how many cars (per 1000 registrations) had issues that required assistance from ADAC in 2014(tire issues are excluded). The column right after the model shows the average number of kilometers (in thousands) driven per year. You can see that the E series is driven much more than any of the comparables.


So how do you read the list. Lets assume that you have a 2009 E. This car would have a 2.89% chance of having a breakdown in 2014 and would, on average, have nearly 250,000 kilometers on the clock (about 150k miles)


https://www.adac.de/infotestrat/unfa...cePageId=47921
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It is funny, According to the statistics from ADAC (the German AAA) that are published annually based upon their roadside assistance calls, MB and VW are far less prone to failures than are Honda and Toyota. As a matter of fact, the Japanese cars are pretty far down on the list.


Here is the "upper middle class" report from 2014 and shows how many cars (per 1000 registrations) had issues that required assistance from ADAC in 2014(tire issues are excluded). The column right after the model shows the average number of kilometers (in thousands) driven per year. You can see that the E series is driven much more than any of the comparables.


So how do you read the list. Lets assume that you have a 2009 E. This car would have a 2.89% chance of having a breakdown in 2014 and would, on average, have nearly 250,000 kilometers on the clock (about 150k miles)


https://www.adac.de/infotestrat/unfa...cePageId=47921
That is quite interesting, might be in part that the vehicles are used for there intended build purpose. Solid highway machines, which the rattly Toyota and Hondas can't handle.
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It is funny, According to the statistics from ADAC (the German AAA) that are published annually based upon their roadside assistance calls, MB and VW are far less prone to failures than are Honda and Toyota. As a matter of fact, the Japanese cars are pretty far down on the list.


Here is the "upper middle class" report from 2014 and shows how many cars (per 1000 registrations) had issues that required assistance from ADAC in 2014(tire issues are excluded). The column right after the model shows the average number of kilometers (in thousands) driven per year. You can see that the E series is driven much more than any of the comparables.


So how do you read the list. Lets assume that you have a 2009 E. This car would have a 2.89% chance of having a breakdown in 2014 and would, on average, have nearly 250,000 kilometers on the clock (about 150k miles)


https://www.adac.de/infotestrat/unfa...cePageId=47921
I come from Japanese owned vehicles. I had a Honda that hit 280,000 miles without any major hiccups and a Toyota that hit 250,000 miles without any major hiccups. If my 2010 E550 can do the same, I'll be happy! I don't think Toyotas and Hondas are rattly if they can last this long. I'm not referring to build quality here but durability/stamina.
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