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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 01:24 PM
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 02:29 PM
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I'm having this same issue on my car. Can anyone tell me the exact place where I can find the battery, booth or dash? Pictures will be highly appreciated.

Also, I noticed the HOLD function on the braking system is no longer working. What else is affected?

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Someone correct me on the model year, but I know for 2014 forward, this aux battery is in the trunk, under the spare tire panel. On previous models, it was located in the driver's side dash. I replaced it on my 2014 and the warning light is gone and the brake "Hold" function now works again. FWIW, I hate the "Eco" system so always switch it off as soon as I start the car, but this aux battery is purportedly for this engine-start system so as not to tax the main battery as the engine is restarted all those numerous times it is trying to save you gas.


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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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It makes you wonder if not using ECO will prevent this battery from needing changing that often. It doesn't make sense to save a few pennies using ECO if it ends up costing hundreds in service calls. Now, if I can only find a permanent ECO bypass.
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 03:15 PM
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So what is the actual cost out of warranty? Anyone know?
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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My local NAPA had a AGM battery for around $185 that meets OEM specs, and a better warranty.
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by davidjohnbamber
My local NAPA had a AGM battery for around $185 that meets OEM specs, and a better warranty.
That's for the ECO battery? Or the main battery? Seems steep for the eco.
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by divaboy
I'm having this same issue on my car. Can anyone tell me the exact place where I can find the battery, booth or dash? Pictures will be highly appreciated.

Also, I noticed the HOLD function on the braking system is no longer working. What else is affected?

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Battery is in the trunk in the spare tire well. This only affects ECO start/stop and the brake hold function.
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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It makes you wonder if not using ECO will prevent this battery from needing changing that often. It doesn't make sense to save a few pennies using ECO if it ends up costing hundreds in service calls. Now, if I can only find a permanent ECO bypass.
It makes perfect sense. Eco mode will give you better gas mileage and allows MB to hit their CAFE numbers which is mandated by the government. Costing you hundreds in service calls isn't a factor in CAFE numbers. It's a WIN-WIN for MB, better CAFE numbers and extra revenue for their dealers. A little bad PR from owners that complain, but that's their cost of doing business.
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Old Dec 4, 2016 | 01:15 AM
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We replace LOTS of batteries under warranty, it isn't all a win for MB.
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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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It makes you wonder if not using ECO will prevent this battery from needing changing that often. It doesn't make sense to save a few pennies using ECO if it ends up costing hundreds in service calls. Now, if I can only find a permanent ECO bypass.
http://www.midcityengineering.com/pr...s-benz-eco212/
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 06:55 AM
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Battery is in the trunk in the spare tire well. This only affects ECO start/stop and the brake hold function.
There seems to be confusion on where this battery is located. I see quite a few references that point to under the driver side. Perhaps this applies to pre-2014 face lift? I know my car (2014) has a battery in the trunk, right next to spare tire.

Anyhow, my car just threw the same "Aux Bat Malfunction" message yesterday. After that, I noticed that not only auto hold is gone, distronic plus cruise is gone as well. I wonder if this means auto emergency stop, front cross traffic alert/assistance, etc are gone as well?

Local MB dealer has been a bit of pain to get an appointment for this, kept telling me to just come in before 2pm and wait for it (no loaner, not taking appointment for this apparently). Basically forcing me to lose at least a couple of working hours.
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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Just got this replaced under warranty at my local MB dealer. I asked him what it does. He said it operates the ECO and it also is a backup to the main battery so that if your main battery dies you can still get the car in Neutral so that you can get the car out of the garage to get a jump/on a tow truck/or whatever. I don't know how much it costs and it appeared to be in the trunk of my 2014 E350 as they had that open at one point when it was in the service bay.
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 03:26 PM
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Auxiliary Battery Malfuction

Had the same problem at 23186 miles. It was corrected by the dealer in Columbus Ohio by replacing the auxiliary battery in the truck at no cost. Also got a free car wash.
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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Same here. At about 25k miles the auxiliary battery on my '14 E350 went. The dealer replaced it under warranty in less than 30 min. in and out the door. No problems since. About 5 months before it failed, I had, however, as a precaution, charged that battery to full capacity. Apparently, some early batteries were no good, period.
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 02:36 PM
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Ill just add to it: 2014 E350 23k miles and had a malfunction message upon pick up from used dealership. Had MB replace it under warranty about 9 months prior to expiration.

As above, lots of functions ceased to function - hold/hill assist, park assist.
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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 05:19 PM
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Hi I’m own a E350 and i just miss the warranty for a mont on the same problem with the auxiliary battery
and the estimated price is 370 dollars in the dealer it is expensive but i need to doit i dont want this problem to afect any other aistem in the car
but if it helps to keep the eco thing off i will thanks my car has 39k miles
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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 07:03 PM
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Hi I’m own a E350 and i just miss the warranty for a mont on the same problem with the auxiliary battery
and the estimated price is 370 dollars in the dealer it is expensive but i need to doit i dont want this problem to afect any other aistem in the car
but if it helps to keep the eco thing off i will thanks my car has 39k miles
Can replace the battery yourself, it's quite simple. Keeping Eco off doesn't help the battery life, they have to pass an electronic resistance check, if they fail, you get the warning. Not much you can do to prevent it, it's quite sensitive, the value is only about 2 ohms, differs slightly from application to application.
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Old Nov 19, 2017 | 09:48 PM
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This battery is a very common failure on all the eco mode equipped cars. Normally, it fails the internal resistance check, it's not that the battery is bad yet. Most of them when I test them after removal have 13+ volts and show as a very good battery, but once the internal resistance is over 1.76 Ohms, it fails and has to be replaced. Will be a PITA once out of warranty, but any normal powersports battery that size could be used, it doesn't have to be some special MB battery, although it must be sealed.
Great info. Thanks for posting this. I've never thought about checking the resistance in a battery - seems like it's checking to see if the fire is hot or ice is cold. Something new for me.
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Old Dec 5, 2017 | 03:08 AM
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My 2015 E350's been through THREE of these batteries in 48k miles. I also had one of the service loaners throw up an Aux Battery Failure at 4k miles too. Definitely a design flaw.
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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
This battery is a very common failure on all the eco mode equipped cars. Normally, it fails the internal resistance check, it's not that the battery is bad yet. Most of them when I test them after removal have 13+ volts and show as a very good battery, but once the internal resistance is over 1.76 Ohms, it fails and has to be replaced. Will be a PITA once out of warranty, but any normal powersports battery that size could be used, it doesn't have to be some special MB battery, although it must be sealed.
Thanks for the information, you solved my mystery. My 2014 E350 4matic with eco stop/start has been sending the message Auxiliary Battery Malfunction. I tested the battery at 12.95V which is good for a AGM battery. The internal resistance explanation is the answer. My systems battery under the hood was replaced by the dealer 2 days before the original warranty expired. At the time the SA told me that the Aux Battery is replaced more often under warranty.
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 10:45 AM
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Mine has gone out now too (2014 at 32k miles). Mine is in the trunk. I’m ready to replace it (out of warranty, not a CPO item), but can’t figure out the part number.

Anyone know this part number by chance? My dealership won’t tell me (probably because they want me to buy it from them for $300 for just the battery).

this is mine.



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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 11:18 AM
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A 0009829308 That is the MB part number. You will see it when you remove the hold down. $134.99 list price at a dealer.
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 11:46 AM
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Thanks RSIKR! I’m on my way to another dealership nearby to pick it up, $135 indeed!
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 08:49 PM
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Update: problem solved for $135! Where’s that easy button! Thanks for the help!
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 10:08 PM
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Old thread but my aux battery errored today. Local dealer wanted $379 including installation or $187 including tax for the part. I ordered the OEM part online delivered for $125. Took 10 minutes to install. Folks of your vehicle is out of warranty, do this install yourself and save the money.
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