Tank7

Getting an install tomorrow and wondered if having the laser detection option in the rear is that important? If so, where do they mount them on a 2014 E350 Sport?

Also doing the MidCity remote start.

belarus27

damn these are expensive!! must be really good

beejAMG

visited the Escort website

https://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ci/

and was lmao when i came across this...

"The PASSPORT 9500ci is completely undetectable to all radar detector detectors, keeping you unseen and unnoticed."



totally reminded me of this...the "trace buster buster"...lol

Tump43

My understanding is that most cops will get you from the front if they are using laser; that it is extremely unlikely that they will try to get you from the rear with laser. So, rear laser is not the most important. I think the rear laser mounts on the top or bottom of the rear license plate frame.

beejAMG

when I was in my teens living in LA about a couple of decades ago. i used to have some cheap laser detectors in my cars. didnt know any better then.

down here, nobody uses anything like that. now im just wonderin', is it still the same concept as before, to detect coppers laser to see if youre speeding? or does it do more than that? coz if thats all it does, wouldnt it be easier to stay under the limit than spend that much money?

E55Dimon

All depends how cops do it in your area really.
In my 4 years of having 2 jammers in the rear I only got hit once. Front is a whole other story of course.

looney100

I looked into this some time ago and found that laser detectors are almost worthless. Unlike radar, laser requires only a quick, focused pulse, so if your detector sounds an alarm, it means that the police have just detected your speed, and it's too late.

Arrie

The way radar detector protects you is that it pics the radar signal from long distance where it is monitoring other cars ahead of you. It is the scattered signal that the detector sees as the normal radar is quite wide beam.


Laser is a very narrow beam and basically only hits the car it is aimed at. When you get the alarm they already have your speed.


With the normal radar this is the same if the cop keeps the radar off and turns it on just for you when in range. It is too late when the alarm comes on. They know your speed already so on an empty highway radar detector does not help much if the cop's radar is not on continuously.


I would not bother installing laser sensor in the rear. It is quite poor performer in the front also.

looney100

The only real protection from laser is a jamming system.

Abrown3mtg

I have a 9500ci installed on my car. There are a few things to consider.... The Radar detection capabilities are fantastic. The range is great. That said, the 9500ci is a bit older system. The K band filters are not fantastic and even with the gps lock outs it can be a bit "Chatty".... Many people find this too much and supplement it with a valentine 1 for k band.

The Laser shifter pros (assuming you have the newer version and not the older zr4 jammers which are next to worthless against newer lidar guns), do not protect against the Dragon Variable Pulse Rate LIDAR guns which are in a few areas of ohio already.

Also it appears K-band is present in your area so turning k band off is not a very good idea...
Here is a coverage map: https://www.rdforum.org/wiki/index.p..._Survey_-_Ohio

If you haven't already pulled the trigger, I highly suggest you consider an alternate laser system if not different platform altogether.

You want the AL Priority "ALP" jammers which can be integrated with either the 9500CI head for range, or Beltronics STIR head. (also the new Radenso and some other newer installed system as well). The golden standard system is the Stinger VIP which is neck and neck with the alp on laser and by far the best on radar. but it is $$$$.

If you are able to postpone your install on the radar detector, I'd suggest joining http://www.rdforum.org

Don't get me wrong, the 9500ci is a hell of a detector.... but the jammers that come natively with the system are VERY sensitive to positioning, MUST NOT be obstructed or hidden behind the mesh of your grill, and you will want to find a local member from that forum that will test your setup with a lidar gun and tweak/adjust the heads to ensure you are protected. Fortunately we have largely older LIDAR guns in Minnesota so my older zr4 shifters have been tested and the front has proven to largely but not fully protect me after making some subtle adjustments. They would do nothing against 90% of the guns where you live.

I bought my 9500ci for about 600.00 used. If I were paying the 2k retail cost, I would go a different direction, or buy a used 9500ci that is band segmented and use the alp priority jammers front and rear (I will be adding these at some point).

Also, with jammers, you want to learn the terms "jam to gun" and "jam to kill". When you get hit with Laser, you slow down fast, than turn the jammers off so they can obtain your speed. Jamming to gun they will know it was not a gun glitch, pull you over and give you a ticket or pull your equipment .

Tank7

I have already pulled the trigger and in speaking with Escort, this is a new unit with shifter PROs and are due for a firmware upgrade as soon as they can get it done to address the Dragon issue. They (Escort) are in Ohio (they were at one time Cincinnati Microwave if you remember) and said Dragon not in Ohio yet, but they could be wrong based upon your list. Thankfully I don't often travel to those counties. Mid City Engineering is doing the install so I have some confidence of the quality of the install.

Abrown3mtg

The Laser Shifter Pros are a lot better than the Zr4, they are however just rebranded Laser Interceptors. They have been promising an update for several years but they have never released one.

You will get great protection from the 9500CI. There is a reason I have it on my own car! Definitely plan on testing the setup!

armysoldier1073

Right now ALPS is the only company that can defeat the variable signal dragon eye. They also have a new sensor head replacement for the ci/stir laser jammer that helps significantly with falsing due to radar speed control and blind spot detection.

Abrown3mtg

Do you have any info on the sensor head replacement is that your mentioned? I'm intrigued.

emericr

I have a 9500ci with the Zr4 shifters (I am in Florida)
My rear one gave up. Escort said I can buy a new one for $150 but they never discussed the new fronts ones. What should I do? For $150, it is cheap but should I not bother having rear shifters and spend more to get updated front laser shofter pros? How much should I expect to pay for those?

armysoldier1073

You can find general information on ALPS website as add on. They go into more depth on radar detector forum.

Abrown3mtg

Florida Is still the home of vpr guns. Back end shots too. I'd never trust anything but an alp setup there.

Amy soldier thank you. I'll get up to speed on the other forum I've been neglecting but earned an intermediate status on.

Cheers