guven2620

Hey, can anybody tell me the name of the stock sound system/speakers on the 2011 w212, and how many watts it has?

jahquan3

Harmon Kardon I thought came with every W212 but I could be wrong. Here is the site in which it says 630 Watts but that might be figures for the W213

http://www.harmankardon.com/mercedes-benz-e-class.html

AkaSigFreak

Harmon Kardon is not standard equipment. The COMAND APS Logic7 has 14 speakers (Center dash, Front door, Rear Door, Rear Deck and Subwoofer). The standard systems are the NAVIGATION 20, the AUDIO 50 APS and do not have the center channel or subwoofer. Then there is the Bang & Olufsen system which is absolutely amazing and $$$$$.

jahquan3

Ahhh, I see. I never heard of that system. I thought it was HK or Burmester. Good info on the other systems as well.

drwolf

for the most part i think its the HK7 ,the '17 models use Burmester

guven2620

Okay thanks, but is the Bang & Olufsen better than Burmester for the w213?

drwolf

i think its the premium audio option for the 17 since i didnt see HK as an option for the 17 models.. the ones the W212 have is pretty good i'd say (HK7) you get more of a pounding bass on the W166 model though

LILBENZ230

I thought Logic7 was as high as it gets for the W212. The W221 had an optional B&O system. The W213 uses two different Burmester setups.

drwolf

ya thats correct

AkaSigFreak

That is not correct. The B&O system is the highest end audio offered in the W212. It would most like be installed in an E63 or E550 instead of an E350 due to the high cost.

Notice the B&O tweeters in the A-pilar.

teksurv

Yep, B&O was a rare and expensive option. Having driven a 213 loaner with Burmester, that blows the 212 H/K out of the water. I wish I could have heard the 212 B&O for comparison.

guven2620

Yeah the burmester 3D surroundsystem is a bit out of my price range, is the normal burmester with 14 speaker worth it though?

LILBENZ230

All these years, all these Benzes, all these posts.. still learn something new almost daily.

I have never seen this in any W212 I have looked at, but I would love to experience it.

jahquan3

^ Same way I feel. Always good to have the wealth of knowledge from the community

belarus27

might of been one of the option you would have to custom order it from the factory.
otherwise i have never seen B&O on w212.

Duc Tran

You are so wrong if w213 you drove having normal 13 Burmester Speakers

13 normal Burmester speakers are on lower lower level and lower quality comparing HK Full Logic 7, especially play music with strong bass and max Volume

Just 24 speakers 3D high end Burmester can blow out HK 7 out

LILBENZ230

This is an old thread, but I actually agree with the necro post. The Burmester in the loaner E450 I drove was not as good as the L7 system in my W212.

Left Coast Geek

Note that the HK Logic7 system, the components are actually Harman-Becker, and yes, Harman Inc owns Becker (since 1995), along with JBL, Infinity, Bang and Olufsen automotive, Crown International, AKG, dbx, Mark Levinson, and many others. Mercedes have traditionally used Becker radios going back to the 1960s.

and a couple years ago, Samsung bought Harman. yeeesh.