Which E350 wagon to choose?
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Which E350 wagon to choose?
Hi! I'm brand new here, but I'd love to get some advice. It's getting to be time to replace my current wagon (Subaru) and I'm considering an E350 wagon.
I'm looking at two, both 2014s, but I can't decide which is better to focus on.
The first has less than 15K miles. But I don't think (have to double check) that there are any maintenance records. I keep my cars for 10-15 years, so I'm a bit worried if this is a concern.
The second has a bit over 25K miles. But, it is being sold by the same dealer that originally sold it and who also did all of its service. It also has a couple options that might be nice. It has the 360 camera, park assist, sport package. Car #2 is about 3K less than car #1.
My question: My initial thought was to get the low mileage car. But does it really matter? Do you folks (collectively) have any advice?
As an aside, I'm a bit apprehensive in general since this will be my first non-standard transmission car. I'm feeling a bit lost at the thought of what to do with my left foot. So if you can reassure me that I'll be okay, I'd appreciate it!
Thank you!
Gizardygoo.
I'm looking at two, both 2014s, but I can't decide which is better to focus on.
The first has less than 15K miles. But I don't think (have to double check) that there are any maintenance records. I keep my cars for 10-15 years, so I'm a bit worried if this is a concern.
The second has a bit over 25K miles. But, it is being sold by the same dealer that originally sold it and who also did all of its service. It also has a couple options that might be nice. It has the 360 camera, park assist, sport package. Car #2 is about 3K less than car #1.
My question: My initial thought was to get the low mileage car. But does it really matter? Do you folks (collectively) have any advice?
As an aside, I'm a bit apprehensive in general since this will be my first non-standard transmission car. I'm feeling a bit lost at the thought of what to do with my left foot. So if you can reassure me that I'll be okay, I'd appreciate it!
Thank you!
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25,000 miles is still low mileage. Get whichever has the features you want. What to do with your left foot? You'll have to figure thta out for yourself. 99% of people these days bring th eleft foot along for the ride.
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I agree with Zavato with the mileage. If you keep the cat 10-15 years at the end of it the 10000 mile difference means nothing. get the car that you like more and it seems you like the higher mileage one more due to the options.
No matter which one you get purchase the ELW for the maximum for it. I assume both are CPO cars so they come with 1 year ELW on them already. Then add the two more years and you will be very well covered until sometime 2021 (7 years total with I believe unlimited mileage now). Heck, if you buy the second one, with the price difference you can get the ELW to the max.
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A third vote for 10k miles doesn't matter when you're keeping a car so long. Very little they could have done to screw it up over such a short time/mileage.
Get the features you want and enjoy since you'll have it a long time. Save $3k and get 360 camera in trade for 10k more miles is a no brainer for me.
Get the features you want and enjoy since you'll have it a long time. Save $3k and get 360 camera in trade for 10k more miles is a no brainer for me.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm leaning toward the higher mile one, so glad it's not a bad choice. My current car doesn't have any of these fancy things, so I wasn't sure if things like the 360 camera or the parking assist were worthwhile or just gimmicks.
I wouldn't have thought about the warranty- I didn't realize those were worthwhile. I will definitely educate myself about it before I pull the trigger.
thanks again.
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I wouldn't have thought about the warranty- I didn't realize those were worthwhile. I will definitely educate myself about it before I pull the trigger.
thanks again.
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Great advice from long time members here and I totally agree with maxing out the warranty. These are not inexpensive cars to fix when something major happens. The park assist is not a big deal, however the 360 camera is worth every penny. Good luck to you and don't worry about your left foot. It needs a vacation.
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Great advice from long time members here and I totally agree with maxing out the warranty. These are not inexpensive cars to fix when something major happens. The park assist is not a big deal, however the 360 camera is worth every penny. Good luck to you and don't worry about your left foot. It needs a vacation.
I forgot about the left foot on my post.
There is a very inexpensive fix for this. A $3 bungee cord that can be used to tie the left foot on the seat bracket...
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I drove a stick for years and the first couple years after getting an automatic, every once in a while you pretend you're still shifting through the gears, but it faded after a few year. I think they might still have paddle shifters on the steering wheel, at least my 2011 does.
Anyway, a CPO and ELW are two different things but are pretty close. The CPO kicks in after the original factory warranty of 4/50k. As it's under 50k, a 2014 might be good til 2018 on the original warranty. Then the CPO kicks in after that, you can get up to 2 extra years on a CPO with unlimited miles. Check the ended warranty sub-forum for discount pricing, it will be hundreds if not over a thousand cheaper than the dealer list price. The ELW is just when you buy the car from a non MB dealer and it still has the original warranty on it. Then you can only buy up to 7/75 or 7/100k. CPO cars are typically more expensive than cars that just have ELW, but with that low mileage, the dealer might not have to spend too much to make it a CPO car.
Oh and there's usually a spot on the left to rest your left foot, no need to tie it down. If you want, you can drive with both feet, left on the brake, right on the gas. Makes for quick getaways from traffic lights.
Anyway, a CPO and ELW are two different things but are pretty close. The CPO kicks in after the original factory warranty of 4/50k. As it's under 50k, a 2014 might be good til 2018 on the original warranty. Then the CPO kicks in after that, you can get up to 2 extra years on a CPO with unlimited miles. Check the ended warranty sub-forum for discount pricing, it will be hundreds if not over a thousand cheaper than the dealer list price. The ELW is just when you buy the car from a non MB dealer and it still has the original warranty on it. Then you can only buy up to 7/75 or 7/100k. CPO cars are typically more expensive than cars that just have ELW, but with that low mileage, the dealer might not have to spend too much to make it a CPO car.
Oh and there's usually a spot on the left to rest your left foot, no need to tie it down. If you want, you can drive with both feet, left on the brake, right on the gas. Makes for quick getaways from traffic lights.
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About 22 years since I stopped driving a stick shift and I still miss holding revs through a turn. But a few years of commuting took all the fun out of it.
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I drove a stick for years and the first couple years after getting an automatic, every once in a while you pretend you're still shifting through the gears, but it faded after a few year. I think they might still have paddle shifters on the steering wheel, at least my 2011 does.
Anyway, a CPO and ELW are two different things but are pretty close. The CPO kicks in after the original factory warranty of 4/50k. As it's under 50k, a 2014 might be good til 2018 on the original warranty. Then the CPO kicks in after that, you can get up to 2 extra years on a CPO with unlimited miles. Check the ended warranty sub-forum for discount pricing, it will be hundreds if not over a thousand cheaper than the dealer list price. The ELW is just when you buy the car from a non MB dealer and it still has the original warranty on it. Then you can only buy up to 7/75 or 7/100k. CPO cars are typically more expensive than cars that just have ELW, but with that low mileage, the dealer might not have to spend too much to make it a CPO car.
Oh and there's usually a spot on the left to rest your left foot, no need to tie it down. If you want, you can drive with both feet, left on the brake, right on the gas. Makes for quick getaways from traffic lights.
Anyway, a CPO and ELW are two different things but are pretty close. The CPO kicks in after the original factory warranty of 4/50k. As it's under 50k, a 2014 might be good til 2018 on the original warranty. Then the CPO kicks in after that, you can get up to 2 extra years on a CPO with unlimited miles. Check the ended warranty sub-forum for discount pricing, it will be hundreds if not over a thousand cheaper than the dealer list price. The ELW is just when you buy the car from a non MB dealer and it still has the original warranty on it. Then you can only buy up to 7/75 or 7/100k. CPO cars are typically more expensive than cars that just have ELW, but with that low mileage, the dealer might not have to spend too much to make it a CPO car.
Oh and there's usually a spot on the left to rest your left foot, no need to tie it down. If you want, you can drive with both feet, left on the brake, right on the gas. Makes for quick getaways from traffic lights.
If you would buy a new MB vehicle you could buy this same ELW to cover three years after the factory four years warranty. With the used CPO cars MB gives one year of it so to get the max you need to buy the other two, which I highly recommend to everybody buying these cars.
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To what I learned the one year warranty that comes with the CPO cars is ELW. CPO mesns Certified Pre Owned and as that mesns only that. MB throws one year of ELW with it to promote the sales of the used cars. This warranty is almost as good as the original factory warranty. I really dont know what the difference is as for me it covered all i needed.
If you would buy a new MB vehicle you could buy this same ELW to cover three years after the factory four years warranty. With the used CPO cars MB gives one year of it so to get the max you need to buy the other two, which I highly recommend to everybody buying these cars.
If you would buy a new MB vehicle you could buy this same ELW to cover three years after the factory four years warranty. With the used CPO cars MB gives one year of it so to get the max you need to buy the other two, which I highly recommend to everybody buying these cars.
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CPO and ELW are two different things. CPO you get from an MB dealer and it's an extra year with unlimited miles, it's not the same as ELW, also not sure about the exact difference, but basically in order for a car to be CPO, it has to meet certain requirements like the tires and brakes have to be in a certain condition. For ELW, you just buy the warranty from any MB dealer and the car just has to be under 4/50k to qualify and not be a car sold by a MB dealer that didn't sell it with the CPO. The max for ELW is either 7/75 or 7/100, for CPO, the max is just 7 years but it's unlimited miles. So in theory if you just have ELW, you could burn it up in less than 7 years, but with CPO, it's unlimited miles for a max of 7 years.
Sorry, but I don't agree with you.
The one year of ELW MB provides with the CPO cars is the same as the ELW you buy after it. I think the difference with the factory 4 year warranty is with hoses etc. that the ELW does not cover.
The one year warranty MB gives with the CPO cars is the same coverage as if you would buy a new car and get the three years ELW with it.
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Sorry, but I don't agree with you.
The one year of ELW MB provides with the CPO cars is the same as the ELW you buy after it. I think the difference with the factory 4 year warranty is with hoses etc. that the ELW does not cover.
The one year warranty MB gives with the CPO cars is the same coverage as if you would buy a new car and get the three years ELW with it.
The one year of ELW MB provides with the CPO cars is the same as the ELW you buy after it. I think the difference with the factory 4 year warranty is with hoses etc. that the ELW does not cover.
The one year warranty MB gives with the CPO cars is the same coverage as if you would buy a new car and get the three years ELW with it.
Basically MB doesn't call their CPO warranty an ELW warranty. They just call it their CPO warranty.
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You don't have to agree with me, they're just both different and not called that. Just go read about it some more in the extended warranty sub forum. The main difference between CPO and ELW is the unlimited miles on CPO and the limited miles on ELW. Coverage may be the same, but some things apply to CPO and some to ELW. For instance with CPO, you can't get your money back if you sell the car, but with ELW, you can get some of your money back if the next buyer doesn't want the warranty or you trade it in.
Basically MB doesn't call their CPO warranty an ELW warranty. They just call it their CPO warranty.
Basically MB doesn't call their CPO warranty an ELW warranty. They just call it their CPO warranty.
"Beyond the assurance of a painstaking certification process and 24-hour Roadside Assistance, every Certified Pre-Owned Mercedes-Benz now comes with industry-leading coverage: an unlimited-mileage warranty for one year that can be extended for up to two additional years. So no matter what your odometer reads, your confidence will know no bounds.†"
The warranty you call CPO warranty is the same ELW that you can buy for up to three years with the new car. Im talking about the MB ELW. It comes with unlimited mileage, which was changed just a couple of months after i bought mine, which had 125000 mileage limit. For me this was fine as the 7 years total warranty time went out almost at the same time as the mileage reached 125000.
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CPO and ELW terms were different when I looked into it a few years ago. ELW is an exclusive warranty meaning only the items listed (glass, trim, batteries, etc.) are not covered. CPO is an inclusive warranty meaning if the component is not listed then it is not covered. Not saying CPO isn't adequate, but the difference is in the terms. A service advisor told me that the ELW is the closest coverage to the factory warranty.
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I'm working on a CPO 2016 wagon, < 6k miles. With CPO I've got until January 2021 with coverage. The extra two years of coverage was just under $4k. It seems the consensus is to go with the extra coverage.
