1 in 1000 E-Class, Distronic
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1 in 1000 E-Class, Distronic
I drove a 2014 E250 for 18 months, but sold it to Carmax last week in preparation of buying another E250 --- with Distronic this time. After driving a car with an adaptive cruise control for 3 weeks, it's hard to go back!
As you know, E250's are relatively rare, but finding one with Distronic can be a challenge! I just worked out some numbers from Autotrader data that you may find interesting:
There are 5077 total W212 facelift (2014 to 2016) cars for sale on Autotrader. 162 of them have Distronic (that's 3.2%).
Out of those 5077, only 139 are E250 Diesels (2.7%). Out of those 139 Diesels, only 5 have Distronic (that's 3.6%).
If you do the math, it makes an E250 with Distronic a "one in a thousand" car (i.e. only 1 out every 1000 used E-class vehicles would be a Diesel with Distronic).
I stopped at San Diego MB last week and they told me that out of about 300 cars on their lot, probably only 10 have Distronic. That number roughly matches what I'm seeing on Autotrader.
Anyone on the forum have an e-class with Distronic? Did you go to great lengths to find it?
As you know, E250's are relatively rare, but finding one with Distronic can be a challenge! I just worked out some numbers from Autotrader data that you may find interesting:
There are 5077 total W212 facelift (2014 to 2016) cars for sale on Autotrader. 162 of them have Distronic (that's 3.2%).
Out of those 5077, only 139 are E250 Diesels (2.7%). Out of those 139 Diesels, only 5 have Distronic (that's 3.6%).
If you do the math, it makes an E250 with Distronic a "one in a thousand" car (i.e. only 1 out every 1000 used E-class vehicles would be a Diesel with Distronic).
I stopped at San Diego MB last week and they told me that out of about 300 cars on their lot, probably only 10 have Distronic. That number roughly matches what I'm seeing on Autotrader.
Anyone on the forum have an e-class with Distronic? Did you go to great lengths to find it?
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Ive had my E250 with Distronic+ for over 1 year now. Bought it new in 2016. Best decision I have made so far. After working a night shift its nice to be able to pull up on the stalk and cruise along home. I would highly recommend it.
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Yes, distronic is rare and that's always been the case. Of the 3% with distronic, how do the models break down with that feature? I have no data to support this assumption, but I would think it might appear more on E550 and possibly the diesel models. This is based purely on the assumption that diesel owners may have ordered their cars for highway driving and distronic appealed to them more. And E550 ordered cars tend to be more loaded. But when I say it may appear more on those cars it would only be slightly more.
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I'd agree with the consensus that it's normally only present on special order or fully loaded 550 cars.
At my MB alignment training class, we had a pair of 2016 E250 cars that were fully loaded with distronic, and it stood out to me as being unusual to see on an E class. Cool car though, with the little diesel 4 banger and all the nice E class trim. Very efficient highway cruiser and very luxurious without going to an S class.
At my MB alignment training class, we had a pair of 2016 E250 cars that were fully loaded with distronic, and it stood out to me as being unusual to see on an E class. Cool car though, with the little diesel 4 banger and all the nice E class trim. Very efficient highway cruiser and very luxurious without going to an S class.
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Yes, distronic is rare and that's always been the case. Of the 3% with distronic, how do the models break down with that feature? I have no data to support this assumption, but I would think it might appear more on E550 and possibly the diesel models. This is based purely on the assumption that diesel owners may have ordered their cars for highway driving and distronic appealed to them more. And E550 ordered cars tend to be more loaded. But when I say it may appear more on those cars it would only be slightly more.
For E63's the percentage jumps to 27.
For E350's it's only 1.9%.
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Those numbers are surprising to me. I guess having had adaptive cruise in numerous vehicles dating back to like 2006 has me thinking (incorrectly) that most luxury vehicles have the option equipped.
I knew our E350 wouldn't have it, but I bought it for my daughter's first car so I wasn't looking to get a loaded one.
Our Escalade's adaptive is pretty good. I think our first vehicle with it was a Toyota Sienna in 2006...back then I think they called it "Laser Cruise Control"...not sure if Toyota still has that Back To The Future name for it!
I knew our E350 wouldn't have it, but I bought it for my daughter's first car so I wasn't looking to get a loaded one.
Our Escalade's adaptive is pretty good. I think our first vehicle with it was a Toyota Sienna in 2006...back then I think they called it "Laser Cruise Control"...not sure if Toyota still has that Back To The Future name for it!
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W212 E-class, W211 E-class, F10 5-Series
I drove a 2014 E250 for 18 months, but sold it to Carmax last week in preparation of buying another E250 --- with Distronic this time. After driving a car with an adaptive cruise control for 3 weeks, it's hard to go back!
As you know, E250's are relatively rare, but finding one with Distronic can be a challenge! I just worked out some numbers from Autotrader data that you may find interesting:
There are 5077 total W212 facelift (2014 to 2016) cars for sale on Autotrader. 162 of them have Distronic (that's 3.2%).
Out of those 5077, only 139 are E250 Diesels (2.7%). Out of those 139 Diesels, only 5 have Distronic (that's 3.6%).
If you do the math, it makes an E250 with Distronic a "one in a thousand" car (i.e. only 1 out every 1000 used E-class vehicles would be a Diesel with Distronic).
I stopped at San Diego MB last week and they told me that out of about 300 cars on their lot, probably only 10 have Distronic. That number roughly matches what I'm seeing on Autotrader.
Anyone on the forum have an e-class with Distronic? Did you go to great lengths to find it?
As you know, E250's are relatively rare, but finding one with Distronic can be a challenge! I just worked out some numbers from Autotrader data that you may find interesting:
There are 5077 total W212 facelift (2014 to 2016) cars for sale on Autotrader. 162 of them have Distronic (that's 3.2%).
Out of those 5077, only 139 are E250 Diesels (2.7%). Out of those 139 Diesels, only 5 have Distronic (that's 3.6%).
If you do the math, it makes an E250 with Distronic a "one in a thousand" car (i.e. only 1 out every 1000 used E-class vehicles would be a Diesel with Distronic).
I stopped at San Diego MB last week and they told me that out of about 300 cars on their lot, probably only 10 have Distronic. That number roughly matches what I'm seeing on Autotrader.
Anyone on the forum have an e-class with Distronic? Did you go to great lengths to find it?
Wow, So I guess for my car, it is even more rare than the E250's (1.9% vs 3.6%).
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
I wish we could get Marti report-style breakdowns for these cars.
I have an Indigo on brown leather E250 4matic with pano, parktronic, lighting, keyless-go, lane tracking, ventilated seats, etc. Has to be pretty uncommon, but no driver's assist.
I have an Indigo on brown leather E250 4matic with pano, parktronic, lighting, keyless-go, lane tracking, ventilated seats, etc. Has to be pretty uncommon, but no driver's assist.
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2015 E 250, 1999 BMW M Roadster, 1939 International Harvester, 2023 GLC
my E250 has distronic and another rare option, split screen in the nav system. I have yet to use this split screen but it is cool plus wireless MB headphones
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The wife and I are flying out Thursday morning to pick-up a 2016 E250 with Distronic Plus. It has 8K miles, leather, ventilated/dynamic seats, adaptive LEDs, but NO keyless-go and NO parktronic. Not having keyless-go will take some adjusting after our previous E250... however, I value the distronic over everything else. Compromises, compromises... will have a 2100 mile return trip home.
Hoping to keep this one for a long time!
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2008 E350 4Matic, 2011 E350 4matic
You definitely have some rare options... It's almost impossible to find one with everything you want without special order (and Diesel is no longer available anyway and in my opinion is never coming back to the U.S.).
The wife and I are flying out Thursday morning to pick-up a 2016 E250 with Distronic Plus. It has 8K miles, leather, ventilated/dynamic seats, adaptive LEDs, but NO keyless-go and NO parktronic. Not having keyless-go will take some adjusting after our previous E250... however, I value the distronic over everything else. Compromises, compromises... will have a 2100 mile return trip home.
Hoping to keep this one for a long time!
The wife and I are flying out Thursday morning to pick-up a 2016 E250 with Distronic Plus. It has 8K miles, leather, ventilated/dynamic seats, adaptive LEDs, but NO keyless-go and NO parktronic. Not having keyless-go will take some adjusting after our previous E250... however, I value the distronic over everything else. Compromises, compromises... will have a 2100 mile return trip home.
Hoping to keep this one for a long time!
While the mileage on a diesel is appealing, the real reason I'd stay away from one is because very few are sold and if you have any questions or problems with one, you hear crickets on the forums and you're stuck with the MB dealer as very few indys will know how to fix it. Same deal with parts too, only OEM. When there's enough volume, the aftermarket steps in.
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
If the car had Distronic, it might be a keeper as a "forever car", optioned exactly as I might build it (OK, I'd rather have Diamond Silver, but the darker blue is nice too). Even so, it might be a long termer. Picking up a car as a leftover sitting on a dealer storage lot limits your custom option choices, and the gasoline cars just don't tempt me as much - the 4cyl diesel is a gem of an engine.
No keyless is really weird on a leather and drivers assist car, I wonder who spec'd that. I can deal without Parktronic, but I am really used to keyless-go now, and I think it would irk me to be without it. But if someone isn't into it, it might not be a problem. I just got in from a little road trip - 46.1 mpg per the computer, and that was with a couple stops. No complaints.
I think the ultimate rarity would be a full option luxury trim E250 with Distronic. That could be a real keeper.
No keyless is really weird on a leather and drivers assist car, I wonder who spec'd that. I can deal without Parktronic, but I am really used to keyless-go now, and I think it would irk me to be without it. But if someone isn't into it, it might not be a problem. I just got in from a little road trip - 46.1 mpg per the computer, and that was with a couple stops. No complaints.
I think the ultimate rarity would be a full option luxury trim E250 with Distronic. That could be a real keeper.
You definitely have some rare options... It's almost impossible to find one with everything you want without special order (and Diesel is no longer available anyway and in my opinion is never coming back to the U.S.).
The wife and I are flying out Thursday morning to pick-up a 2016 E250 with Distronic Plus. It has 8K miles, leather, ventilated/dynamic seats, adaptive LEDs, but NO keyless-go and NO parktronic. Not having keyless-go will take some adjusting after our previous E250... however, I value the distronic over everything else. Compromises, compromises... will have a 2100 mile return trip home.
Hoping to keep this one for a long time!
The wife and I are flying out Thursday morning to pick-up a 2016 E250 with Distronic Plus. It has 8K miles, leather, ventilated/dynamic seats, adaptive LEDs, but NO keyless-go and NO parktronic. Not having keyless-go will take some adjusting after our previous E250... however, I value the distronic over everything else. Compromises, compromises... will have a 2100 mile return trip home.
Hoping to keep this one for a long time!
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If the car had Distronic, it might be a keeper as a "forever car", optioned exactly as I might build it (OK, I'd rather have Diamond Silver, but the darker blue is nice too). Even so, it might be a long termer. Picking up a car as a leftover sitting on a dealer storage lot limits your custom option choices, and the gasoline cars just don't tempt me as much - the 4cyl diesel is a gem of an engine.
No keyless is really weird on a leather and drivers assist car, I wonder who spec'd that. I can deal without Parktronic, but I am really used to keyless-go now, and I think it would irk me to be without it. But if someone isn't into it, it might not be a problem. I just got in from a little road trip - 46.1 mpg per the computer, and that was with a couple stops. No complaints.
I think the ultimate rarity would be a full option luxury trim E250 with Distronic. That could be a real keeper.
No keyless is really weird on a leather and drivers assist car, I wonder who spec'd that. I can deal without Parktronic, but I am really used to keyless-go now, and I think it would irk me to be without it. But if someone isn't into it, it might not be a problem. I just got in from a little road trip - 46.1 mpg per the computer, and that was with a couple stops. No complaints.
I think the ultimate rarity would be a full option luxury trim E250 with Distronic. That could be a real keeper.
Just arrived in Indianapolis tonight and will see the car in the morning for the first time. Hopefully I'll be able to sleep since I need to do at least 600 miles toward San Diego tomorrow. The gas engine guys are wondering what's wrong with this guy who is so excited about a "lousy" 4-cylinder diesel car!
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
Nice color, yes, you have good taste
In my car, which seems to have virtually everything save for Distronic, I would probably do without leather and Parktronic to compensate (price would be about the same, I think). I don't think it would be feasible to retrofit, so I will have to make do or find another car someday, maybe when it is further along in the term. I won't give up keyless-go though. But if the driver doesn't mind, that's all that matters - as you say, you may never find another one as close to perfect, and low miles to boot. Did it turn out as well as hoped?
In my car, which seems to have virtually everything save for Distronic, I would probably do without leather and Parktronic to compensate (price would be about the same, I think). I don't think it would be feasible to retrofit, so I will have to make do or find another car someday, maybe when it is further along in the term. I won't give up keyless-go though. But if the driver doesn't mind, that's all that matters - as you say, you may never find another one as close to perfect, and low miles to boot. Did it turn out as well as hoped?
We definitely think alike! I love the 4-cyl diesel. It is absolutely fantastic and gives me a smile every time I drive it. I've been looking for the "real keeper" and this is the closest I can get. The car is Diamond Silver (like our old E250). Really the only thing missing is the keyless-go; no parktronic is not a big deal. I could always add the 360 camera system which seems to be doable and integrates seamlessly, but I probably won't bother. I even spoke to Mid-City Engineering since they offer push-button start kits for other models, but they are not planning on one for W212 since not having it from the factory is rare! I think someone purposely ordered this one without it. My dilemma was that everything else about the car was perfect (color, distronic, active LEDs, leather, active/ventilated seats, 2016 model with traffic sign recognition, only 8200 miles, 4matic in case we move back to Scandinavia) and I kept thinking how many more cars with such rare options are gonna be on the market with such low mileage. So I pulled the trigger and decided that I'll have to learn to live without the keyless-go.
Just arrived in Indianapolis tonight and will see the car in the morning for the first time. Hopefully I'll be able to sleep since I need to do at least 600 miles toward San Diego tomorrow. The gas engine guys are wondering what's wrong with this guy who is so excited about a "lousy" 4-cylinder diesel car!
Just arrived in Indianapolis tonight and will see the car in the morning for the first time. Hopefully I'll be able to sleep since I need to do at least 600 miles toward San Diego tomorrow. The gas engine guys are wondering what's wrong with this guy who is so excited about a "lousy" 4-cylinder diesel car!
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Nice color, yes, you have good taste
In my car, which seems to have virtually everything save for Distronic, I would probably do without leather and Parktronic to compensate (price would be about the same, I think). I don't think it would be feasible to retrofit, so I will have to make do or find another car someday, maybe when it is further along in the term. I won't give up keyless-go though. But if the driver doesn't mind, that's all that matters - as you say, you may never find another one as close to perfect, and low miles to boot. Did it turn out as well as hoped?
In my car, which seems to have virtually everything save for Distronic, I would probably do without leather and Parktronic to compensate (price would be about the same, I think). I don't think it would be feasible to retrofit, so I will have to make do or find another car someday, maybe when it is further along in the term. I won't give up keyless-go though. But if the driver doesn't mind, that's all that matters - as you say, you may never find another one as close to perfect, and low miles to boot. Did it turn out as well as hoped?
The drive home was 2300 miles. Had Distronic engaged the whole way. It makes driving so amazingly relaxing. I though the Steering Assist feature was going to be a gimmick, but at times I drove hundred miles or more by only holding the wheel with one hand without making any major, or really even minor, steering inputs. Obviously it's not going to keep up when the curves get more aggressive like between Denver and Southern Utah, crossing the rockies. It is really awesome in slow stop-and-go traffic. Below 20 mph, you don't even have to have your hands on the wheel. Above that, you'll get a graphic warning followed by a slightly delayed aural warning if it doesn't sense your hands on the wheel.
Gas milage (per trip computer) was 39.2 including some city driving in Indianapolis, Omaha, Denver, and Las Vegas.
This is definitely the "keeper" for me. I'm starting to get used to the lack of Keyless-Go. Of course, I would have preferred it, but finding a car with a flawless exterior and interior far outweighs the lack of keyless-go for me (thanks to my OCD!).
My previous E250 was the sport model and I had the AMG wheels on it. Will put them on this one on Thursday. I'm not sure how they'll go with the luxury trim. BTW, I do like the luxury trim and suspension. I personally think this car will age more gracefully than the sport model.
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
Awesome. I never thought of the plasti-dip route. That car has to be a 1 of 1, at least in the US. As MB design seems to be swinging back to less creases and faux-aggression, I think the luxury trim will age well, too. Nice score, I hope I am so lucky when I start looking again.
[QUOTE=E250_92101;7267697]The car was in better shape than I expected. It is absolutely flawless. I've been looking for a small scratch somewhere, but I'm yet to find one. The original owner must have been as "****" as me! Before leaving, I sprayed the whole front end with clear Plasti Dip. My last E250 got "sand blasted" in a storm driving through Arizona. Now I have a huge blister in my thumb after I removed the Plasti Dip last night!!
The drive home was 2300 miles. Had Distronic engaged the whole way. It makes driving so amazingly relaxing. I though the Steering Assist feature was going to be a gimmick, but at times I drove hundred miles or more by only holding the wheel with one hand without making any major, or really even minor, steering inputs. Obviously it's not going to keep up when the curves get more aggressive like between Denver and Southern Utah, crossing the rockies. It is really awesome in slow stop-and-go traffic. Below 20 mph, you don't even have to have your hands on the wheel. Above that, you'll get a graphic warning followed by a slightly delayed aural warning if it doesn't sense your hands on the wheel.
Gas milage (per trip computer) was 39.2 including some city driving in Indianapolis, Omaha, Denver, and Las Vegas.
This is definitely the "keeper" for me. I'm starting to get used to the lack of Keyless-Go. Of course, I would have preferred it, but finding a car with a flawless exterior and interior far outweighs the lack of keyless-go for me (thanks to my OCD!).
My previous E250 was the sport model and I had the AMG wheels on it. Will put them on this one on Thursday. I'm not sure how they'll go with the luxury trim. BTW, I do like the luxury trim and suspension. I personally think this car will age more gracefully than the sport model.
[QUOTE=E250_92101;7267697]The car was in better shape than I expected. It is absolutely flawless. I've been looking for a small scratch somewhere, but I'm yet to find one. The original owner must have been as "****" as me! Before leaving, I sprayed the whole front end with clear Plasti Dip. My last E250 got "sand blasted" in a storm driving through Arizona. Now I have a huge blister in my thumb after I removed the Plasti Dip last night!!
The drive home was 2300 miles. Had Distronic engaged the whole way. It makes driving so amazingly relaxing. I though the Steering Assist feature was going to be a gimmick, but at times I drove hundred miles or more by only holding the wheel with one hand without making any major, or really even minor, steering inputs. Obviously it's not going to keep up when the curves get more aggressive like between Denver and Southern Utah, crossing the rockies. It is really awesome in slow stop-and-go traffic. Below 20 mph, you don't even have to have your hands on the wheel. Above that, you'll get a graphic warning followed by a slightly delayed aural warning if it doesn't sense your hands on the wheel.
Gas milage (per trip computer) was 39.2 including some city driving in Indianapolis, Omaha, Denver, and Las Vegas.
This is definitely the "keeper" for me. I'm starting to get used to the lack of Keyless-Go. Of course, I would have preferred it, but finding a car with a flawless exterior and interior far outweighs the lack of keyless-go for me (thanks to my OCD!).
My previous E250 was the sport model and I had the AMG wheels on it. Will put them on this one on Thursday. I'm not sure how they'll go with the luxury trim. BTW, I do like the luxury trim and suspension. I personally think this car will age more gracefully than the sport model.
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Another e250 owner here. This one may be a keeper for me also. I was expecting some problems here and there as this is a German car (compared to my Lexus wagon). So far it's been rather good. Small problems do exist - pano roof popping noise, parking brake cable not releasing fully, Bluetooth audio skipping. But the powertrain has been solid. I have another 15k miles to make a long term judgement on the true keeper status (when my CPO warranty runs out).
Congrats on the purchase.
Congrats on the purchase.
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Another e250 owner here. This one may be a keeper for me also. I was expecting some problems here and there as this is a German car (compared to my Lexus wagon). So far it's been rather good. Small problems do exist - pano roof popping noise, parking brake cable not releasing fully, Bluetooth audio skipping. But the powertrain has been solid. I have another 15k miles to make a long term judgement on the true keeper status (when my CPO warranty runs out).
Congrats on the purchase.
Congrats on the purchase.
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Another e250 owner here. This one may be a keeper for me also. I was expecting some problems here and there as this is a German car (compared to my Lexus wagon). So far it's been rather good. Small problems do exist - pano roof popping noise, parking brake cable not releasing fully, Bluetooth audio skipping. But the powertrain has been solid. I have another 15k miles to make a long term judgement on the true keeper status (when my CPO warranty runs out).
Congrats on the purchase.
Congrats on the purchase.
This summer I took a ride in a E220 diesel taxi (W212) in Helsinki. It had 160,000 kilometers on it. I asked the driver about its reliability so far. He said there has been zero problems. He also said he could buy the car from the taxi company owner when it hits about 320,000 km in about another year. He had just asked his friend who is a Mercedes mechanic specializing in taxi cars whether he would be a total fool if he bought it with 320,000 km on the clock (i.e. 200K miles). The mechanic said the late model W212s are so trouble free that it would actually be a good buy. It seemed that he is seriously considering buying it for himself. That really spoke volumes to me about these cars!
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Just stumbled across this thread. I had a very tough time finding my 2015 E250 BT with the Driver's Assistance Package. I only ended up seeing two on the market in all of my searching. Driver Assistance and the full LED headlights were non-negotiable for me, I was willing to compromise otherwise. I really wanted Lunar Blue but no luck finding that in combination with the other options.
Eventually I ended up with my unicorn, a sport appearance Obsidian Black Metallic on Silk Beige MB-Tex with Black Ash trim with Premium Package, Driver's Assistance Package, LED lighting package, 360 Cameras and Parktronic, power closing trunk, 115V AC outlet, and Splitview.
It was a special order car according to the MSRP sheet that MBUSA customer service generated for me and I believe that it was a MBUSA company car originally.
Eventually I ended up with my unicorn, a sport appearance Obsidian Black Metallic on Silk Beige MB-Tex with Black Ash trim with Premium Package, Driver's Assistance Package, LED lighting package, 360 Cameras and Parktronic, power closing trunk, 115V AC outlet, and Splitview.
It was a special order car according to the MSRP sheet that MBUSA customer service generated for me and I believe that it was a MBUSA company car originally.
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