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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 05:48 AM
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have a problem with my 2004 E500 sedan. drive to a store, when I come out of the store my car won't start. All power works, but won't start. Unable to be jumped off. After sitting for a few hours then it starts. Had it checked and they can't find out what the problem
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 06:02 AM
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I have had my battery tested and they said it was fine. they checked the alternator and said it was fine. I drive my care everyday. I could have just driven it to the store and whenI come out of the store it won't start
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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Why do you figure it could be the starter
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jgregory8
Why do you figure it could be the starter
well if you had your battery tested and is OK so is the alternator.
Starter is the only thing that left ... from what i see.
plus idk about other than 550s but it was a somewhat common issues on v8s. Had mine replaced by the dealer.
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 01:28 PM
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It could be HEAT SOAK. I had an '04 E500 4Matic, but never experienced heat soak with the starter. If you Google that term, you will see what it is and the symptoms are exactly as you have described. Most modern cars, though are designed to avoid that age old problem of overheating the starter. In any event, I agree with Mr. Belarus27 and it is your starter causing your problem.
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 02:46 PM
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I would seriously look at the Crank Position Sensor (CPS), which you can only test by replacing it. Only use a true Bosch part, not an aftermarket.
They tend to fail when warm, then work again when they cool off. Common to all MB cars that use them.

Had this happen on my wife's W212 Bluetec, as she was driving down the road, and when I came to rescue her everything worked fine, as it had cooled off.
Replaced the CPS, and everything is fine again.

Let us know what you find.
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 03:15 PM
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I would seriously look at the Crank Position Sensor (CPS), which you can only test by replacing it. Only use a true Bosch part, not an aftermarket.
They tend to fail when warm, then work again when they cool off. Common to all MB cars that use them.

Had this happen on my wife's W212 Bluetec, as she was driving down the road, and when I came to rescue her everything worked fine, as it had cooled off.
Replaced the CPS, and everything is fine again.

Let us know what you find.
can that cause longer cranking time?
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Engine needs to turn over before it can start.
So what exactly is it?
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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I should have asked...is your engine cranking over, but not starting?
Or is not even clicking and the starter is not turning?

Option 1 could be a CPS. With bad CPS it will crank, but not fire. CPS is used to trigger ignition by telling ECU when it is TDC.
Option 2 is likely something else.
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 08:50 PM
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This shouldn't be in the W212 section...
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