E-Class (W212) 2010 - 2016: E 350, E 550

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Old 06-30-2021, 11:38 AM
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From the image you have attached, it seems the facelift W212 come in two different type of bumpers and two types of grill?
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Yes, there is a luxury and a sport version of facelift W212's.
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The VIN number is WDD2120342B083260. Thank you @konigstiger

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This is my W212. The diamond grill is a aftermarket replacement.

I want to achieve this look.

I believe there are 2 types of bumper for W212. Pink is mine and the blue is the Executive (Elegance) Line.

2 types of grills for the 2 different bumpers..
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Not certain about your aftermarket grille attached original factory info, conversion bumper & grille parts for 2015 212.234 wagon same for 212.034 sedan, and disassembly/assembly instructions. To be clear Parts Information = current factory parts; Bumper = replacement parts for 2015 model year conversion, Grille = replacement parts for 2015 model year conversion. Note grille pattern differs from your photo.



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Old 06-30-2021, 12:07 PM
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Sorry, I am poor in this. Which PDF you are referring to when you mentioned Line 14?

Can you confirm that this model has different bumpers for Avantgarde and Executive Lines respectively?
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Looks like you will need the chrome shroud that goes around the whole grill along with the grill and hood ornament to achieve that look. As always, konigstiger's got you covered.
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:14 PM
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Your W212 has the same bumper and the grill as my car (until I changed to the diamond grill).

This bumper is different to that of the Executive Line which has a bigger chrome grill.

I just need to confirm that I have to change my bumper in order to achieve the Executive Line classic look.
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Your W212 has the same bumper and the grill as my car (until I changed to the diamond grill)
No it does not. Look harder. They are real close but not the same.
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Originally Posted by meljayger
Sorry, I am poor in this. Which PDF you are referring to when you mentioned Line 14?
Disregard thought you wanted to remove grille. Revised my post see bumper & grille attachments to convert.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Not certain about your aftermarket grille but attached factory info,see line 14 in attachment. Attached conversion bumper & grille parts (2015 212.234 wagon) same for 212.034 sedan.
So can you confirm that I will need to get new bumper for the Luxury grill?
If this is correct, is it complicated to do so? I do not get much help from my local MD agent. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Not certain about your aftermarket grille attached original factory info, conversion bumper & grille parts for your model year (2015 212.234 wagon) same for 212.034 sedan, and disassembly/assembly instructions.

This document mentioned 2 different types of grille for Avantgarde (mine) and Elegance Line. Does this mean I have to get a new bumper in order to have the Elegance/ Classic grille?

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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Disregard thought you wanted to remove grille. Revised my post see bumper & grille attachments to convert.
@konigstiger May I know are you working for MB or a MB parts company? Amazed with all the info you are able to share (Thank you!)

Besides this Avantgarde to Elegance bumper conversion that I want to do, I am looking for help on inability to connect my iPhone to my media player (NTG 4.5) via cable.

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Thank you sir for your help. Will try to digest all the info you have shared.
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I am looking for help on inability to connect my iPhone to my media player (NTG 4.5) via cable.
Try 0008271200.

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US "Luxury" vs "Sport" front ends, from the 2016 brochure. The "Elegance" vs "Avantgarde" actually refers to interior color combinations, but those are bundled with the traditional vs AMG exterior trim, and the comfort (17" wheel) vs sport suspension (18" wheel), at least in the US market.


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So, in order to change grills from classic to sport the bumper needs to be replace too? How about just the inner mesh on the classic? Can that be removed?



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Well if you had both grills side by side, they are as far as I know one piece with the surrounding bezel, you undoubtedly could trim the sport interior piece and cut out the luxury piece and somehow get them to fit together, with enough fabrication, almost anything as possible. My friends and I used to call that kit bashing, Leftover from when we were teens and we'd take parts of different plastic models and build our own creations.

Note that the bezel on the luxury trim is chromed plastic, while the bezel on the sport trim is body painted. I believe the lines are subtly different around the outside of the bezel that's why you can't just drop them in and need the sport bumper to go with a sport trim. Of course with the luxury cars comfort suspension ride, the AMG body trim might look a little funny riding an inch and a half higher off the ground. I would leave well enough alone.
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Originally Posted by meljayger
Hi @konigstiger I hope you can help me
From the image you have attached, it seems the facelift W212 come in two different type of bumpers and two types of grill?
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See my pic in this thread of the luxury/comfort package front and sport/AMG front this is specific for model year 2014-2016, aka facelift. Afaik, only 6 cyl models had the lux option in the USA.
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Replacing the grille is a pain.

Someone backed up into my car and cracked the grill. Had to replace. The bumper needs to come off. The chrome grille surround needs to come off to expose more hidden rivets. You can drill them out but I opted not to and simply cut them off with wire cutters. I figured less possible damage


This video shows the process to do the entire removal. You will need a rivet tool. Also make sure you lay the bumper on something that won't scratch the paint. I'm sure OP got this resolved already but hopefully someone else will benefit.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
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WDD2120342B0832600 thanks!
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Try 0008271200.
This works! Thank you for your help!
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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
US "Luxury" vs "Sport" front ends, from the 2016 brochure. The "Elegance" vs "Avantgarde" actually refers to interior color combinations, but those are bundled with the traditional vs AMG exterior trim, and the comfort (17" wheel) vs sport suspension (18" wheel), at least in the US market.

Mine is Sport styling currently and still is looking to change to the Luxury styling with no luck.
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Originally Posted by meljayger
Mine is Sport styling currently and still is looking to change to the Luxury styling with no luck.
yeah, thats a tall order.

US luxury vs sports from what all I gathered and remember....
  • different bumpers front and rear, different grills and the rest of the front and rear trims.
  • different suspension (Comfort vs Sport suspension)
  • different dash and door trim (warm tone Elegance vs cold tone Avant Garde)
  • different steering wheels (round vs flat bottom)
  • different exhaust ends (fully hidden tips vs dual tips sticking through the rear bumper skirt)
  • 17" vs 18" wheels
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