Android Auto in 2016 W212





I do not find the scrolling with the controller to be a problem, but I don't know about others.
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I too would like to thank the folks who trailblazed in order for us all to get going.
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The count went up to 23 before the "Success" message.
I too would like to thank the folks who trailblazed in order for us all to get going.
is this the same for us in the uk.
i have a 212 estate and the vin decide states the following.
531 - COMAND APS NTG5/NTG5.5
3U1 - EUROPE/CIS COUNTRIES/ MONGOLIEA HEAD UNIT
Am yet to check the dash menu to see if carplay volume appears.
cheers
- Longroof
Last edited by Longroof; Sep 24, 2019 at 04:55 PM.
- Longroof
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Last edited by FireRx Captain; Oct 4, 2019 at 09:38 PM.
This thread was a wealth of the information on how get Android Auto enabled in my 2016 E350. Given that this feature is not an "officially supported item" by MB I have decided not use M dealer route.
Few notes from my experience:
1. I did need to update the Command firmware because my I had was not up to date. Unfortunately if was not free for me. My car is out of original warranty and according to my dealer CPO part did not cover it because they did not find any error codes in the Command module. According to the dealer response MB did have this update as "required". As a result I did pay 1 hour labor to do that. If cost me ~$150
2. I have contacted vladimircdi on ebay to make sure that his hardware will work.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-CO...53.m2749.l2649
Apparently he does have an access to MB database because he responded with an exact date when firmware on my car has been updated and confirmed that it was correct and compatible
3. In addition to AA activation I also purchased from him an add-on that allows to change ECO start/stop to be set to OFF mode by default:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ad...53.m2749.l2649
This is a super annoying feature in may case because where I live there are a lot of 4-way Stop intersections. In this case it does not help environment much because you stopped only for 1/2 second but every time it has to crank the engine again. I am sure that loss/reduction of the oil pressure in engine and a transmission is also not that great for the car either.
4. Both feature are enabled with the same plug sequentially.
5. Now I have both AA enabled and I do not have manually turn ECO to OFF every time I start the car.
6. Only one negative thing is that when Android Auto or Car Play in use SD card can be accessed. So, no music or books from the SD card while AA is in use. I did contact vladimircdi regarding this issue and that appears to be a "feature" is how MB does it.
Max




Last week I purchased a MY2016 W212 Sport CPO (it only has 14,500 miles!) and took it in to the dealership today to have a few things ironed out. Since I had been reading up on this thread, I went in yesterday and talked to my salesman about it, which in turn he took me to the Service Manager to discuss. As expected, they had never heard of this and their curiosity was piqued.
I met with my SA this morning and it turns out he's a computer programmer, so he was pretty excited about the idea. He told me he has been researching this since yesterday and although they noted the upgrade is not compatible with the W212, they all concluded it's the same hardware and software, so he agreed to give it a try (seems more for the sake of him knowing it works, and he would be the only one that will have first-hand knowledge). He was nice enough to notate connectivity issues and said if for whatever reason it is not covered, my charge would be $420 for everything, which I'll be willing to pay in lieu of the Belarus fix for the sake of preserving my warranty. He also agreed to investigate whether they can program "Eco-off remember last setting." I'll report when I get the car back this afternoon.
Last edited by EuroDriverSD; Oct 15, 2019 at 08:08 PM.
My thanks to all who led the way.
Last week I purchased a MY2016 W212 Sport CPO (it only has 14,500 miles!) and took it in to the dealership today to have a few things ironed out. Since I had been reading up on this thread, I went in yesterday and talked to my salesman about it, which in turn he took me to the Service Manager to discuss. As expected, they had never heard of this and their curiosity was piqued.
I met with my SA this morning and it turns out he's a computer programmer, so he was pretty excited about the idea. He told me he has been researching this since yesterday and although they noted the upgrade is not compatible with the W212, they all concluded it's the same hardware and software, so he agreed to give it a try (seems more for the sake of him knowing it works, and he would be the only one that will have first-hand knowledge). He was nice enough to notate connectivity issues and said if for whatever reason it is not covered, my charge would be $420 for everything, which I'll be willing to pay in lieu of the Belarus fix for the sake of preserving my warranty. He also agreed to investigate whether they can program "Eco-off remember last setting." I'll report when I get the car back this afternoon.
My thanks to all who led the way.
My plan is to use AA during road trips where I like to use Waze. That was a primary motivation for enabling AA to make sure that I do not have to look to one more screen and all sound coming from the cars audio. I figured that I would stream something like books or podcasts from my phone while I use AA.
Max





Last edited by DFWdude; Oct 16, 2019 at 10:12 AM.
Here some of my thoughts on this.
You also need to consider that dealer is very limited by what they can do by MB overlords during warranty period. And once it is expired they often do not see a lot of demand to invest the time. You will see very few people like EuroDriverSD willing to spend several hundred $s to attempt to enable it (props to EuroDriverSD to investing his time and money and also finding the dealer to work on it). And if it works for him, I doubt that this knowledge will propagated back to MB to make it available to all dealer network.
During warranty period most of this dictated by hours that MB will allow dealer to spend on any "warranty" work spend on any specific task.
I hate to bring medical reference to this discussion, but it is almost like like HMO. Just like you medical insurance making your doctor to go through bunch of steps to approve specific treatment for you to make sure minimal amount of effort/money is spent. For most of the issues MB already defined a checklist of items to check to diagnose the problem and also decision tree to what is allowed/approved repair. That saves MB a lot of money by avoiding a local dealer spending many hours on debugging some issue that MB already have seen on the field.
The unfortunate side effect of this system is that you have fewer local people who are truly "know" the car and know how to truly debug the issues and not just following the MB check list. If you already have or just found one you are lucky and should keep him on speed dial. As a result there are very few people will be willing or capable of digging into issues like this one.
Side note that this issue is not MB specific but applies to any car manufacturer.
In addition, changing default behavior of the ECO ON/OFF, I think MB will be strongly on "do not modify" side. This is how car was tested and qualified by EPA, so I do not think they will appreciate this change. The last thing MB would want to be accused of messing with EPA especially after the VW's diesel-gate.
Max
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As far as Eco Off, he told me that they were unable to reprogram for legal reasons, due to the need to remain compliant with fuel efficiency requirements imposed by law. He did tell me there were options outside of the dealership.
I just ordered Vladimir's do-hickey from Belarus with the Eco Off add-on.
I have the Mid City Engineering module for Eco Off with the physical kill switch. If anyone is interested in it before I return it, shoot me a private message
As far as Eco Off, he told me that they were unable to reprogram for legal reasons, due to the need to remain compliant with fuel efficiency requirements imposed by law. He did tell me there were options outside of the dealership.
I just ordered Vladimir's do-hickey from Belarus with the Eco Off add-on.
I have the Mid City Engineering module for Eco Off with the physical kill switch. If anyone is interested in it before I return it, shoot me a private message







