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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 01:11 PM
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Three cracked wheels!

Brought the E 350 in for a new set of tires, discussed in another thread and learn that 3 of the 4 wheels are cracked. Although the car has only 50k miles, I guess I shouldn't be surprised due to how bad the roads are around here.

So, I am on the hunt for a set of wheels that I can use my new Nokian tires with! I would prefer OEM: A2124011802

Detroit wheel is checking for me, any other suggestions?
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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Look in the wheel marketplace on this site or eBay
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 01:24 PM
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That is exactly why I won't go to 19" wheels.

You might be better off looking around in your local Craigslist/OfferUp
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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That is exactly why I won't go to 19" wheels.

You might be better off looking around in your local Craigslist/OfferUp
Just for clarification, the car is stock with OEM 17" wheels.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mbmae350
Brought the E 350 in for a new set of tires, discussed in another thread and learn that 3 of the 4 wheels are cracked. Although the car has only 50k miles, I guess I shouldn't be surprised due to how bad the roads are around here.

So, I am on the hunt for a set of wheels that I can use my new Nokian tires with! I would prefer OEM: A2124011802

Detroit wheel is checking for me, any other suggestions?
I bought American Racing Maverick wheels for about $600 for my 17" zLine tires. I went to 17" trying to soften the ride but it really did not make any noticeable difference compared to the original staggered 18" setup.

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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 02:36 PM
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Sorry about the cracked wheels. It does, however illustrate that even 17” wheels are subject to road damage.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:11 PM
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Sorry about the cracked wheels. It does, however illustrate that even 17” wheels are subject to road damage.
Thanks! I have a lead on an OEM used set, going to check them out tomorrow. Described as excellent condition and have not been refurbished.

The shop showed me pictures of my cracked rims, pretty obvious they were bad, so I think I know how to check these wheels out.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:19 PM
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Even I have good set of tires on my 18" monoblocks, I still keep 16" wheels from W211 that I had spare. The 16" makes huge difference in cushioning road obstacle even over 17", but compromise is more fishtailing.
Post pictures of the cracks you have on 17" OEM wheels and manufacturer country? I have 17" wheels on my black car with 185,000 miles and they might be factory wheels and no cracks.
What I am trying to determinate is who makes weaker wheels. So far we have several reports of hard to explain cracks on Czech-made 18" AMG wheels.
But they do make nice garden hoses reels.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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Even I have good set of tires on my 18" monoblocks, I still keep 16" wheels from W211 that I had spare. The 16" makes huge difference in cushioning road obstacle even over 17", but compromise is more fishtailing.
Post pictures of the cracks you have on 17" OEM wheels and manufacturer country? I have 17" wheels on my black car with 185,000 miles and they might be factory wheels and no cracks.
What I am trying to determinate is who makes weaker wheels. So far we have several reports of hard to explain cracks on Czech-made 18" AMG wheels.
But they do make nice garden hoses reels.
I will ask shop to remove old tires and give me the rims so I can post pictures.... not to mention I want the ONE that isn't cracked as a spare.
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I guess cracked wheels is another hurdle I will have to cross with my car.

To explain, the original Florida leasee of this car had 3 tires replaced during the time she owned it. CarFax does not disclose wheel replacement at the dealer, but notes each tire replacement... at different times. Today, I have three essentially newish tires and a single tire from when the car is new, now with 3/32 tread left.

Last month, I went to Discount Tire because they offered to rotate my OEM tires. When I got there, and they saw the worn tire, they said they would not rotate my wheels with the worn tire. Not prepared to buy a new tire that day on a whim -- just call me stubborn -- I left, a bit miffed to be blunt.

Two days ago, I went back to Discount Tire, convinced that I could get a new tire, and have them rotate the left side wheels (only) to put the newest used tire (with 9/32 tread) on the same axle as the new tire. Well, they inspected the other tires to see if my strategy was good, and confirmed it was.

Unfortunately, they found a small chunk of sidewall hanging loose from the tire I wanted moved to the back. This chunk has been there since the day I bought the car 20 months ago. The tire has held air perfectly and it's just a blemish, IMO. Instantly they said they couldn't touch the tire -- just to rotate it -- even though I did not buy it at Discount Tire and told them I sought no warranty of any kind from them regarding suitability of the tire or a simple 1/2 tire set rotation. I asked if Discount Tire wanted to refuse my tire purchase because of a blemish... Apparently they were more than willing to turn away my business. Good riddance, they are not the only Tire store in town.

In the last year, I've had both my knees replaced, and I can't get down on my knees to rotate even two wheels myself. I wonder what further revelations are in store if I can find a place to rotate my left side tires and install/balance a single new one on the LR... Will someone find a cracked wheel, too, and will the whole plan screech to a halt until I am forced to buy new wheel(s), too? I assume that if my tires have held air perfectly, it suggests the wheels are good, as I would think that cracked wheels would lead to leaks. Maybe I'm wrong.

But I've never had such trouble buying a new tire in my life.

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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:43 PM
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I guess cracked wheels is another hurdle I will have to cross with my car.

To explain, the original Florida leasee of this car had 3 tires replaced during the time she owned it. CarFax does not disclose wheel replacement at the dealer, but notes each tire replacement... at different times. Today, I have three essentially newish tires and a single tire from when the car is new, now with 3/32 tread left.

Last month, I went to Discount Tire because they offered to rotate my OEM tires. When I got there, and they saw the worn tire, they said they would not rotate my wheels with the worn tire. Not prepared to buy a new tire that day on a whim, I left, a bit miffed to be blunt.

Two days ago, I went back to Discount Tire, convinced that I could get a new tire, and have them rotate the left side wheels (only) to put the newest used tire ( with 9/32 tread) on the same axle as the new tire. Well, they inspected the other tires to see if my strategy was good, and confirmed it was.

Unfortunately, they found a small chunk of sidewall hanging loose from the tire I wanted moved to the back. This chunk has been there since the day I bought the car 20 months ago. The tire has held air perfectly and it's just a blemish, IMO. Instantly they said they couldn't touch the tire, even though I did not buy it at Discount Tire and told them I sought no warranty of any kind from them regarding suitability of the tire or a simple 1/2 tire set rotation. I asked if Discount Tire wanted to refuse my tire purchase because of a blemish... Apparently they were more than willing to turn away my business. Good riddance, they are not the only Tire store in town.

In the last year, I've had both my knees replaced, and I can't get down on my knees to rotate even two wheels myself. I wonder what further revelations are in store if I can find a place to rotate my left side tires and install/balance a single new one on the LR... Will someone find a cracked wheel, too, and will the whole plan screech to a halt until I am forced to buy new wheel(s), too? I assume that if my tires have held air perfectly, it suggests the wheels are good, as I would think that cracked wheels would lead to leaks. Maybe I'm wrong.

But I've never had such trouble buying a new tire in my life.
No sensor warnings and no low pressure with my 3 cracked wheels.

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Originally Posted by mbmae350
Just for clarification, the car is stock with OEM 17" wheels.
Wow. I have read countless threads about cracked wheels on the W211's and W212's but I think yours might be the first I have read regarding 17" wheels. It really makes me wonder whether there is a serious quality control issue with the Mercedes wheels because I haven't heard this level of recurrence on other car forums.

My comment wasn't directed at you necessarily. I was on the hunt for AMG wheels for my W212 but seeing that going to 19" was the most likely option, I decided against it. Larger wheels will necessarily result in lower profile tires which in turn, lead to a greater probability of cracked rims on these cars - that's all I was trying to infer. I feel bad for you and hope you find replacements at a reasonable price.

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Originally Posted by EuroDriverSD
. It really makes me wonder whether there is a serious quality control issue with the Mercedes wheels because I haven't heard this level of recurrence on other car forums..
After 20 years of driving MB on 15 and 16" rims with only single incident when I "lip" the rim in emergency braking over shoulder pothole, I bought W212 on 18" rims, where 2 of them had cracks like on the picture. There is no sign of any mechanical damage around, although used cars dealer put new tires (with lot of glue) on them.
My only logical explanation is metal fatigue.
Again, Czech-made AMG rims.
Below is good use for them.






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And it continues! Found a set of OEM used. Went to see them and one of the four was visibly cracked. Bought the other 3 and brought them to the shop....2 out of the 3 were bent.

I may go with aftermarket.
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You did not record the manufacturer of those wheels?
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Originally Posted by mbmae350
And it continues! Found a set of OEM used. Went to see them and one of the four was visibly cracked. Bought the other 3 and brought them to the shop....2 out of the 3 were bent.

I may go with aftermarket.
the bent wheels can be repaired
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I hope they give you your money back. I really do believe aftermarket is a better option - forged even better
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What do you think: https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/resu...ModClar=4MATIC
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