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Old Jun 30, 2020 | 06:42 PM
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The E400 Coupe that can't be lowered???

My apologies if it's looked down upon for me to bring this post to the W212 being mine is a coupe. There's just more traffic over here. lol

Hello all. I have a 2015 E400 4mattic with sport tuned agility controlled suspension. I know that it is lowered 10mm from the factory. I Would like a little more. I am going to install 19 inch Renen CSL 3's and would like to lower her a bit more. Is there any kits out there? H&R has nothing. Vogtland has nothing. Any help is greatly appreciated.



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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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Isn't Agility Control used with Airmatic??? If so, adjustable linkages should do the trick, right?
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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nota_amg
Isn't Agility Control used with Airmatic??? If so, adjustable linkages should do the trick, right?
Agility control is MB-speak for coil springs, no air.
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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 07:13 PM
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No it isn't. There is no adjustment on steel spring cars. Has to be Airmatic (or ABC) for it to even work. Are you sure you have this? Have you checked your build sheet on lastvin.com?
Click here for more info on Agility Control

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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 11:48 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I have no button for suspension. I have E,S,M. To be honest I'm not sure what I have. Just that my window sticker said Amg package & sport tuned......yadda yadda. I'll use that link and get back to you. Thanks again guys.
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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nota_amg
No it isn't. There is no adjustment on steel spring cars. Has to be Airmatic (or ABC) for it to even work. Are you sure you have this? Have you checked your build sheet on lastvin.com?
Click here for more info on Agility Control
The nomenclature is very confusing. At least on the W212, Agility Control is not user-adjustable or electronically controlled, despite the implication in the name. From Daimler's media website on the W212:

The E-Class Cabriolet features AGILITY CONTROL suspension with selective damping system as standard. The shock absorbers adapt to the current driving situation automatically: when driving straight-ahead, i.e. when the shock absorber impulses are low, the damping forces are lower, making for more comfortable driving characteristics; but when cornering at speed or performing evasive manoeuvres, when there is more body roll, the damping forces are raised to the maximum.
This effect is achieved by purely hydromechanical means: the core components
of the AGILITY CONTROL shock absorber system are a bypass channel in the shock absorber's piston pin and a control piston moving within a separate oil chamber. When linear travel of the shock absorber is low, the control piston forces oil through the bypass channel to produce a smaller damping force at the actual damper valve. If the excitation of the shock absorber is greater, the control piston moves to its limit position so that oil ceases flowing through the bypass channel, meaning that the full damping force is available. In this way, the chassis and suspension meet stringent requirements in terms of road roar, tyre vibration and agility – without ever compromising on driving safety.
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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 08:37 AM
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Thank you CCW. Great find. So getting back to my original question then. No one offers a lowering solution for my E400. Vogtland stipulates that their springs EXCL (exclude) the 4mattic with sport suspension option. There is no posts that I have found yet that someone has found a lowering solution for the owners of E400s with this option.

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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 10:34 AM
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I think the problem may be that your Coupe is 4MATIC. For example, I see Bilstein B12 kit 46-180766 for the RWD coupe, but not 4MATIC. Similarly they don’t offer lowering kits or upgrade shocks and struts for the W212 4MATIC sedans.

Perhaps somebody who better understands the geometry of the front suspension and 4MATIC can chime in to provide an explanation.
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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 10:53 AM
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I think the problem may be that your Coupe is 4MATIC. For example, I see Bilstein B12 kit 46-180766 for the RWD coupe, but not 4MATIC. Similarly they don’t offer lowering kits or upgrade shocks and struts for the W212 4MATIC sedans.

Perhaps somebody who better understands the geometry of the front suspension and 4MATIC can chime in to provide an explanation.
You're probably right. Which sucks. lol The 4mattic is one of my favorite features of this car.
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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 10:56 AM
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You're probably right. Which sucks. lol The 4mattic is one of my favorite features of this car.
Each to their own aesthetically, but I think the ride-height on your car looks great. I'd love to have it on my sedan. It is lower than the sedans and looks very similar to an E63 to me. The gap below the arch is less than the gap to the sides of the wheels. It's low but balanced and elegant.
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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 11:08 AM
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Each to their own aesthetically, but I think the ride-height on your car looks great. I'd love to have it on my sedan. It is lower than the sedans and looks very similar to an E63 to me. The gap below the arch is less than the gap to the sides of the wheels. It's low but balanced and elegant.
I have to admit that from what I have seen, the ride height is pretty balanced looking as you say. So I agree with you. It is lower than coupes I've seen with out this option. I am planning on going up to 19s in a few weeks and was looking for 3/4" lower ride height. But I'm ok with it stock if no one makes a kit. The fender gap is pretty respectable. The ride compliance is awesome. Sporty handling (almost flat in the curves) very little body roll. It rides better than any coupe I've ever owned and at the present time I need tires. The ride and handling will improve when I make the move to 19s and new tires.

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