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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 11:21 PM
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Hi All, two questions:
1) In the 2010 E350, there is no USB charging port. Did you add that somewhere e.g. in the center console or the glove box?
2) How much should we pay an installer? What would be reasonable?

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1) The usb charging port is provided with the Carplay unit. It is used for data transfer, charging, and/or wired CP/AA.

2) I have been recommending everyone to install the unit themselves. It really is not that hard. I have no prior experience with car audio, electronics, or much of a DIYer myself and I found the job to be quite easy and straight forward. Everything is plug and play and you are not splicing or cutting any wires. All of the trouble shooting has been listed on this forum post, so you can tackle the job with full confidence. I certainly wouldn't trust any shop to do this work on my car but I understand some may have a preference for a shop install or 'might know the guy' or something.

That being said, another member on here paid $200 for the installation of his unit. He is located in Florida for reference. I probably wouldn't pay anyone more than $200.
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 04:01 PM
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Is this
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Old Apr 1, 2021 | 10:10 PM
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New to the thread her but have read though most. Where is the best place to buy the NTG 4.0 kit? I've seen you guys have had to do a few updates, is there anyway to know if the kit on aliexpress is up to date?
I'm looking to install on 2010 E350 with NTG 4.0

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Old Apr 2, 2021 | 12:06 AM
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Is this pry tool sufficient to take the airvents out? Or do we also need this? Thanks

The first link you sent,
pry tool pry tool
, is great to have for any job, including this one. I wouldn't recommend the second link. Looks like the U shape is too aggressive and it won't be able to get into the air vents. I suggest getting a pick tool set like this. I have a very similar one just with orange handles instead.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-Car-Pi...s/203065975181

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Old Apr 2, 2021 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kitkor5
New to the thread her but have read though most. Where is the best place to buy the NTG 4.0 kit? I've seen you guys have had to do a few updates, is there anyway to know if the kit on aliexpress is up to date?
I'm looking to install on 2010 E350 with NTG 4.0
The link to buy from Kremersino in Post #1 is still working. Members on here who have purchased the unit later than I have received boxes with newer software. I doubt they would send you one now with an old or outdated software. I cannot speak for other companies as I have only used and tested the Kremersino unit. I am happy with the Kremersino unit and can confidently recommend it to you.
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 02:57 PM
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I’ve installed this Kremersino CarPlay several months back and it’s been working great (2010 E350). I have the factory reverse camera and it works just like usual. While playing around with the settings on the kremersino today, I changed the reverse camera setting from factory to aftermarket. When I went into reverse I saw the reverse camera guidelines (obviously I didn’t see behind me b/c I don’t have an aftermarket camera), but it made me wonder how easy (or not) it would be to connect an aftermarket camera so I can finally have the reverse guidelines that I really want. Has anyone hooked up an aftermarket reverse camera to this kremersino system?
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 02:43 PM
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Hey everyone! My unit finally arrived and I started inspecting the contents of the box today while I prepare to install in the next couple of days.
I noticed that there's one harness (a black one) that plugs to the iSmart box (the big one) has video plugs and 12v outs for front cameras, 360 cameras. My car is a standard W204 C63 and I don't have any cameras on it, not even a reverse camera.
I am guesssing I can skip that harness and only use the other two? The one that plugs into the head unit (the one with the 48PIN connector, USB connector, etc) and the one that plugs into the LVDS box. This way I can avoid having unecessary wires running about.

Also, where did you guys attach the wifi-antena? Did you just leave it close to the box in the glovebox?

As for the mic, I'm eager to install it near the AC vent harness, did you guys just clip it using the clip that came with the mic? It seems like a good idea, just worried it might dettach and fall.
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 02:52 PM
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Hey everyone! My unit finally arrived and I started inspecting the contents of the box today while I prepare to install in the next couple of days.
I noticed that there's one harness (a black one) that plugs to the iSmart box (the big one) has video plugs and 12v outs for front cameras, 360 cameras. My car is a standard W204 C63 and I don't have any cameras on it, not even a reverse camera.
I am guesssing I can skip that harness and only use the other two? The one that plugs into the head unit (the one with the 48PIN connector, USB connector, etc) and the one that plugs into the LVDS box. This way I can avoid having unecessary wires running about.

Also, where did you guys attach the wifi-antena? Did you just leave it close to the box in the glovebox?

As for the mic, I'm eager to install it near the AC vent harness, did you guys just clip it using the clip that came with the mic? It seems like a good idea, just worried it might dettach and fall.
I would still attach it just in case in the future you want to add on. As for the wifi antenna, I stuck it right behind the a/c vent. The mic, I ran up the A pillar on the passenger side and installed it behind the rear view mirror, out of sight inside where the rain sensor is


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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 05:56 PM
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I started the install but had to throw the towel midway. Removed the AC vents and the stereo, plugged the 48 pin harness and the LVDS box and everything was going fine.
But I hit a snag when disassembling the glovebox. There's a T20 screw on the very bottom of the left side that holds the glovebox in that I cannot get to. My T20 ratchet is too thick to fit in there so I can loosen it.
I managed to loosen every T20 screw in the glovebox except for this one and the god damn thing won't come out without it.

It's this T20 seen here:

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I think I'm going to have to go and buy a slimmer T20 tool so I can try and get it out tomorrow.

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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 10:04 PM
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Also, did anyone not have the fiber optic cable on their original 48pin harness? I saw the cable mentioned on the instructions + tutorials but mine didn’t have it. My car is a standard W204 C63 without the HK Stereo or MMI prep.

Im anxious because I had to drop the install mid way but am running to a shop to get an L-shaped T20 tomorrow so I can dettach the glovebox and wrap up my install.
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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Heaven7
Also, where did you guys attach the wifi-antena? Did you just leave it close to the box in the glovebox?

As for the mic, I'm eager to install it near the AC vent harness, did you guys just clip it using the clip that came with the mic? It seems like a good idea, just worried it might dettach and fall.
I put the whole box in the glovebox and I left the reverse camera and AUX cables just sitting in there a bit organised, it does not take much space and as I recall you needed that harness to plug everything in, so I think you don't really have an option here. As for the mic, I put exactly where you thought, it kept clipped to the harness for the last 8 months, so I guess it's a good and easy idea without having to tuck the wires up to the mirror.

Yes that T20 is the most tricky, the space there is just so tight... I hope you will solve it with the L shaped.

I had a fiber optic cable, but if you don't than it should be an easy go, saves you a bit of stress when removing it thinking not to damage it

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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 10:43 AM
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Man, this thing is kicking my ***! Haha.
I managed to get the glovebox out this morning and routes the cables between behind the head unit and the glovebox. I plugged everything up between the HU, LVDS Box and Carplay box, did the long press and got the video from the box!
Then the problems started. I tried fitting the HU back in and couldn't get it in. After a ton of tries, I realized there was probably not enough space to fit the LVDS box + additional 48pin harness + HU back in there.
So I unplug the LVDS box and move it between the HU frame and the glovebox compartment, like they show on the Kremersino Youtube video. Seems like a good idea and now I can fit the HU back in.
Then problems start again, I can't fit the HU back in flush even like this. Maybe I'm going something wrong.
Then things get worse, I boot up COMAND and while everything is plugged (I've replugged the LVDS box on the new location) I get audio + video from Comand, but nothing from the Kremersino box. I checked the connections to the LVDS box and everything looks fine. When I do the long press on the phone-off button, I even hear a "click" from the box, but nothing happens on the screen.

I'm starting to think I might have broken the Carplay box to LVDS box harness that replaces the Comand video with the Carplay box and that this might be why I am not getting carplay video on Comand anymore. I've tried plugging it in and out a couple of times but no success.

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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Heaven7
Man, this thing is kicking my ***! Haha.
I managed to get the glovebox out this morning and routes the cables between behind the head unit and the glovebox. I plugged everything up between the HU, LVDS Box and Carplay box, did the long press and got the video from the box!
Then the problems started. I tried fitting the HU back in and couldn't get it in. After a ton of tries, I realized there was probably not enough space to fit the LVDS box + additional 48pin harness + HU back in there.
So I unplug the LVDS box and move it between the HU frame and the glovebox compartment, like they show on the Kremersino Youtube video. Seems like a good idea and now I can fit the HU back in.
Then problems start again, I can't fit the HU back in flush even like this. Maybe I'm going something wrong.
Then things get worse, I boot up COMAND and while everything is plugged (I've replugged the LVDS box on the new location) I get audio + video from Comand, but nothing from the Kremersino box. I checked the connections to the LVDS box and everything looks fine. When I do the long press on the phone-off button, I even hear a "click" from the box, but nothing happens on the screen.

I'm starting to think I might have broken the Carplay box to LVDS box harness that replaces the Comand video with the Carplay box and that this might be why I am not getting carplay video on Comand anymore. I've tried plugging it in and out a couple of times but no success.
Oh this does not sound good... As I imagine those cables are really hard to break, but of course possible. Putting back the HU is definitely the trickiest part of all, but it can be done As I remember the LVDS box is fitting under the HU quite nicely, the problem is the harness. Did you check the dip switches? You might have moved one accidentally, since it was already working.
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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 11:11 AM
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Yeah, I am taking a couple of hours to cool off before I try messing with it again. I am going to double check the dip switches but I don't think that's it because when I do the long click nothing happens, I don't get a black screen as would be the case with the incorrect dip switch setup. I am going to try and move the LVDS box back into behind the HU as it was setup originally and redo all the plugs.

The problem is that if I am not able to get image back from the box to the car, it might not even be worth it to put it all together as I might have broken a harnesss that is essential to get this to work.

I'm starting to wish I had paid a guy a this point! Haha.
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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Heaven7
Yeah, I am taking a couple of hours to cool off before I try messing with it again. I am going to double check the dip switches but I don't think that's it because when I do the long click nothing happens, I don't get a black screen as would be the case with the incorrect dip switch setup. I am going to try and move the LVDS box back into behind the HU as it was setup originally and redo all the plugs.

The problem is that if I am not able to get image back from the box to the car, it might not even be worth it to put it all together as I might have broken a harnesss that is essential to get this to work.

I'm starting to wish I had paid a guy a this point! Haha.
Hoping for the best! When checking the cables take extra care with the LVDS, it needs a hard push to get it in place.
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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 12:45 PM
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Yeah, it's not looking good!
I went down again and tried to re-do all the wiring and moved the LVDS box back into the back of the HU. The problem is that I cannot get to the state where I was previously where I had the Carplay video working on the Comand screen.
Even when everything is plugged in properly, I turn on the Comand unit and cannot get the Carplay feed going. When I do the long press on the Comand dial or steering wheel, I can hear the Carplay box "click" but nothing happens on the Comand screen, all I see is the standard MB interface.
I've also tried the dip switches but no dice. At this point I am guessing I have damaged the harness that takes Carplay feed to the LVDS box or the LVDS box itself.

I think I'm going to put everything back together "stock" and e-mail Michael to see if I can get a replacement harness and/or LVDS box.
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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 05:47 PM
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I ended up pulling all the Kremersino stuff out and putting it back together in OEM shape. Damn, that glovebox is a *****.

Before I did that, I tried everything again and could not get the to the point I had reached previously where I had the Kremersino box video feed on the Comand screen. I think my LVDS is working because I get the Comand video on screen. The problem is strictly related to the Kremersino feed and I can hear the iSmart Auto box "clicking" when I do the long press on the hang up button.

This is the harness I think I have damaged:

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There is no visible damage but I've tried pluggig it in & out and inspecting it and nothing happens. This is the harness that takes the Carplay video to the LVDS box and, in turn, into the HU, right?

Man, this is super frustrating! Haha.
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:11 AM
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Just got my Kremersino unit in and installed. Any one had any interface issues?
My screen is blank when ignition on, long press the end call button and the kremersino unit comes on and can see it on the screen. When I exit out, the screen is blank again.
Regardless of which mode the screen is in, the FM radio is playing and stations can be changed through steering controls and command pre sets. While the kremersino unit is running bluetooth, is shows the pandora playing on my phone and responds to pause and change song but the only sound is the FM playing through the MB radio.
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:31 AM
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Also, have gone through the wiring and dip switches, even removed all kremersino hardware and went back to factory and the MB command came back on the screen.
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 04:36 PM
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I'm having mine installed now and its having the same issue. Any help?
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 04:48 PM
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The LVDS plug was in backwards, physically it looks like it is supposed to go one way, but the nipple / tit needs to face up with the head unit in normal position
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 04:51 PM
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The LVDS plug was in backwards, physically it looks like it is supposed to go one way, but the nipple / tit needs to face up with the head unit in normal position
Just as I suspected, the AV shop probably had the same issue. Ill check back in when mine is installed. Thanks!
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Old Apr 29, 2021 | 12:53 AM
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Yes, I came across the same issue while installing mine. I did urge in bold letters that the LVDS cable needs to be plugged in the correct way. First post, picture included with blue arrow.
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Old Apr 29, 2021 | 02:59 PM
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Hi all. I was sick of putting my phone in the ashtray area in order to use Waze on my daily commute because of random road closures where I live. I didn't like the lack of safety with that, and listening to Spotify with the iPod dongle wasn't wonderful with the tracks being either "Prev" or "Next." I went through this thread for a while before deciding to bite the bullet, hoping it would work well with Android Auto, since most people here are on Apple phones. Well, after a pain in the *** with the LVDS plug being upside down (I needed pliers to get it out and even that broke the clip. CHECK BEFORE PLUGGING), the entire rest of the installation was very simple. Getting the radio back in was a bit of trouble, but stuffing the wires in deeper did the trick. Now, my 10-year-old C350 feels so much more modern! The only gripe I have is that I can't use both my iPod, which has some music not available on Spotify, and the AA audio, since I had to disable the former in the engineering menu to be able to activate Aux audio. But, in the end, it's not that huge of a deal, and what's nice is satellite radio still works, although without the immediate ability to see which song you're listening to, but, again, not a big deal. To note for Android users, when first setting up Android Auto, you need to plug it in. You can then go into the factory menu and activate both wireless only or wired+wireless. I had the latter, at first, but something (I can't remember what, as I installed it over the weekend and it happened that day) went a bit weird, so I left it on wireless only. I can always put it back to both. I'd rather be able to use my Quick Charge 3.0 if I want to charge, so wireless was almost essential. I put the box zip-tied to the A/C tube that goes into the glove box, placed between it and the radio...bit of a hassle, but it shouldn't move, hopefully the cool air travelling through the tube helps keep the box cool when it needs it. I stuck the wifi antenna to the same tube. I tied the USB cable to the rails behind the glove box and it now sticks out of where the AUX plug would be, on cars with it. Those that don't have it just have a plug made of the same felt-y material the glove box is lined with, so it can be take out to accommodate it. This makes it accessible without having wires sticking out.

Just in case that was too much for some: for Android users worried about compatibility, don't - it works perfectly, both wired and wireless.
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Old Apr 29, 2021 | 04:31 PM
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The LVDS plug was in backwards, physically it looks like it is supposed to go one way, but the nipple / tit needs to face up with the head unit in normal position
Hey! Do you mean the LVDS cable that goes into the the back of the HU coming from the Kremersino LVDS box or the "original" LVDS cable (the metal one) that comes from the car's harness and plugs into the LVDS box?

I'm trying to figure out if that wasn't my issue, but I'm thinking not. I think my LVDS cables were set up right since I was able to get the COMAND image on the screen perfectly, the only issue is that I couldn't get the image from the Kremersino unit when doing the long press. If I had the LVDS cable the wrong way, I wouldn't get any image at all, right?

I am trying to get Michael to send me a replacement harness but it's taking a while.

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