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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 09:43 PM
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Just wondering, do any of you guys have an AMG Speedshift MCT transmission in your cars? build code 427. seven speed sport transmission?

Also when you shift from economy to sport on the center console button, do you get a red "S" on the dash?

My '12 has a gold S and E on the dash, my '13 has a gold E and a red S.

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Old Jan 2, 2021 | 07:29 AM
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My car has code 427 per the VIN decoder. On my dash the E is green and the S is red.
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The Data Card description for my 2016 E350 varies according to the source...

According to DataMB.com... "427 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7-SPEED"

According to daimler AG... "427 AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sport transmission"

In "E" mode, the dash "E" is Green. In "S" mode, the dash "S" is Red.
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Old Jan 2, 2021 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
My car has code 427 per the VIN decoder. On my dash the E is green and the S is red.
Yes, I have a green E and a red S in the '13. the '12's are both gold. Note to self; stop posting before opening second bottle of Bordeaux.
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Old Jan 2, 2021 | 09:20 AM
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The Data Card description for my 2016 E350 varies according to the source...

According to DataMB.com... "427 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7-SPEED"

According to daimler AG... "427 AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sport transmission"

In "E" mode, the dash "E" is Green. In "S" mode, the dash "S" is Red.
I called my mechanic friend this morning, he laughed, said "they all have that transmission"
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 05:23 PM
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same transmission, different "engagement/disengagement" system. both are 722.9xx, but with different two digit suffixes.

Curious if you have the center console "hollow' shifter setup along with mode selector wheel for transmission, "Race-Start" and other AMG functions? Do you have Manual shift mode?
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nota_amg
same transmission, different "engagement/disengagement" system. both are 722.9xx, but with different two digit suffixes.

Curious if you have the center console "hollow' shifter setup along with mode selector wheel for transmission, "Race-Start" and other AMG functions? Do you have Manual shift mode?
Mine is 722.960 A63 FE torque converter housing, A64 FE converter, A68 transmission housing with deep oil line, A87 valve body assembly with VGS 3, G960 transmission version 60, jut trying to figure out what I have, others on this forum most have the "AMG Speedshift MCT" in fact all of them apparently. I enclosed my build sheet from Koenigstiger. Actually I would be happiest if I had the average everyday transmission, But I was wondering what kind of unicorn I might have.
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 06:34 PM
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My car does not have any of those things except manual shift mode.

This car is notably more aggressive than our 2014 C350 was even though it is apparently the same drivetrain. Could just be programming.
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
My car does not have any of those things except manual shift mode.

This car is notably more aggressive than our 2014 C350 was even though it is apparently the same drivetrain. Could just be programming.
I agree, faster than my "12 {and yes, stops faster too} especially in sport, could be programming, do you have the 722.960 tranny too? As in # G960 Transmission ?

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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
I agree, faster than my "12 {and yes, stops faster too} especially in sport, could be programming, do you have the 722.960 tranny too? As in # G960 Transmission ?
Mine says...
722.906 06 479328A63; A63 FE torque converter housing-0, A64 FE converter 0 mm, A68 transmission housing with deep oil line, A87 valve body assembly with VGS 3, G906 transmission version 06. GA - AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, 427 - AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sport transmission

I assume the 960 vs 906 is a typo, either mine or yours. Further, I bet the A68 and A87 codes you have that I don't represent the differences between your 4-matic and my standard RWD.

I cannot imagine different transmissions between these cars between 2013 vs 2016. Makes no production sense.

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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
Mine is 722.960 A63 FE torque converter housing, A64 FE converter, A68 transmission housing with deep oil line, A87 valve body assembly with VGS 3, G960 transmission version 60, jut trying to figure out what I have, others on this forum most have the "AMG Speedshift MCT" in fact all of them apparently. I enclosed my build sheet from Koenigstiger. Actually I would be happiest if I had the average everyday transmission, But I was wondering what kind of unicorn I might have.
You have the regular TCT, not the AMG MCT. look at your list above..."Torque Converter", that says it all right there. I've never seen an MCT in anything other than a genuine AMG car. Your car has the "AMG Appearance Package" just like mine, but neither are AMGs...unfortunately...
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the code 427 is for any 722.9xx, be it TCT or MCT, same designation
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Originally Posted by nota_amg
the code 427 is for any 722.9xx, be it TCT or MCT, same designation
Correct, it's the two numbers after that make all the difference
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWdude
Mine says...
722.906 06 479328A63; A63 FE torque converter housing-0, A64 FE converter 0 mm, A68 transmission housing with deep oil line, A87 valve body assembly with VGS 3, G906 transmission version 06. GA - AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, 427 - AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sport transmission

I assume the 960 vs 906 is a typo, either mine or yours. Further, I bet the A68 and A87 codes you have that I don't represent the differences between your 4-matic and my standard RWD.

I cannot imagine different transmissions between these cars between 2013 vs 2016. Makes no production sense.
Me either, no sense at all, why would they do that? Mine is 960 unless the typos are in two spots on my sheet. I am 3 years older and as you said 4magic.
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Originally Posted by nota_amg
You have the regular TCT, not the AMG MCT. look at your list above..."Torque Converter", that says it all right there. I've never seen an MCT in anything other than a genuine AMG car. Your car has the "AMG Appearance Package" just like mine, but neither are AMGs...unfortunately...
Well if it was they owe me two more cylinders! And 200 HP!
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fwiw, my 2016 luxury 4matic has 722.960
Excellent! thank you. Case Closed! appreciate all the help guys.
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Originally Posted by nota_amg
the code 427 is for any 722.9xx, be it TCT or MCT, same designation

My buddy has a E63 AMG, his sticker says 7 speed automatic, just FYI. found this, should rile you up!
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PFFFT! I couldn't care less what someone does to their own car. I mean, I might not like it, but to each their own...

Hell, when I first got my car, I thought of doing that to mine so it said E55...but then thought it would be in poor taste and decided against it. So I debadged it instead.
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This is how it came and how it will stay,LOL
Nope. I'm gonna find your car a peel off your '0'! MWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! [twirlingmypencilethinmustache]
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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
Correct, it's the two numbers after that make all the difference
Does anybody know what those final two numbers mean?

I had a 126 a few years back and you could even work out how much torque you could put through it using that data.
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Originally Posted by gumsie
Does anybody know what those final two numbers mean?

I had a 126 a few years back and you could even work out how much torque you could put through it using that data.
My understanding is they designate "TCT" or "MCT" And only the AMG's come with the "MCT"
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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
My understanding is they designate "TCT" or "MCT" And only the AMG's come with the "MCT"
Am kind of wondering if there is more to it.
mine is 722 9 31 for example.
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I called my mechanic friend this morning, he laughed, said "they all have that transmission"
Actually your Mechanic is wrong. Only the Sport with the AMG package has the Mercedes AMG Speed shift MCT 7 speed. Example if you own a 2012 C300 Sport 4matic with the AMG package then you would have that transmission, and if you wanted to spend the money you could add the steering wheels with the pads and they would work, but would not in any other C300.
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