What type of front spring on E220 CDI
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What type of front spring on E220 CDI
Can anyone tell me what are the OEM springs on the front of E220 CDI sedan. The I have got now are H&R 29076 which I guessing are not original, that are all blue and I am looking to raise the front a bit because I had a huge problems in winter especially. It is bad now that the snow is gone anyway. I will add the my wheels are 19" 235/35
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It's complicated, there are a number of springs used based on engine options and sport or luxury, best to use your VIN to find out what you should have or did originally. sounds like someone installed lowering springs.
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You need to punch the vin into EPC and it will tell you the right part number for it. They also have a color code on the springs, but of course you wouldn't know what the originals were. You can get a knock off copy of EPC/WIS on eBay, usually around $10.
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i haven't looked specifically at w212 springs, but on a w124, there were at least 3 different suspension options, (high clearance for countries with rough roads, sportline, regular), then for each option, there were 2-3 different front springs, and a dozen different thickness spring pads, and a table in the parts catalog where you add points for each option you have, starting with a baseline for the engine and chassis version you have, and the resulting score was looked up in a table, which would tell you what spring, and which spacer pad. same thjing for the rear springs, but the option points were different (some options put more weight in front, others in the middle, and others in the rear).
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if you don't have EPC access (actually, its now called XEntry Parts Information, EPC was the old system), feel free to post your VIN here, and one of us with access can look it up for you.
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ok, lets see... your data card is...
Vehicle identification number (VIN) WDD2120021A017650
Vehicle model E 220 CDI Sedan / E 220 d Sedan
Order number 0927802607
Production number 8017937
Production plant P0500
Shipment date 20090422
EC approval number e1*2001/116*0501*00
EC approval date 20081110
Engine 651.924 - 65192430024956
Transmission 722.646 - 72264607738107
Codes 000A 001A 03O 108 110 202B 213 229L 230 236 249 255B 260 260B 280 287 294 2XXL 302B 332B 423 474
477 485 510 518 550 580 67N 70O 734 800 873 875 928 953 963U 967 F212 FW G646 GA HA J54 K11 K13
L M22 M651 R01 R78 U01 U12 U18 U60 V06 VL VR
don't worry about those codes, they represent every option your car had from the factory, I just need them on this screen so I can interpret the parts catalog entries on my other screen...
option 485 in there is DIRECT CONTROL Suspension, which I believe is the 'comfort' suspension.
ok, your fronts....
and of course, 19" wheels are undoubtedly NOT stock, I would expect a E220 diesel to have come with either 16 or 17" wheels, either of which would give you a way smoother/quieter ride than 19" wheels, never mind cheaper tires that last longer.
yeah, your car came with A21240102027X07 wheels, which are 8.0J x 16 H2 ET46, 5 double spoke, front and rear, thats option code R78.
Vehicle identification number (VIN) WDD2120021A017650
Vehicle model E 220 CDI Sedan / E 220 d Sedan
Order number 0927802607
Production number 8017937
Production plant P0500
Shipment date 20090422
EC approval number e1*2001/116*0501*00
EC approval date 20081110
Engine 651.924 - 65192430024956
Transmission 722.646 - 72264607738107
Codes 000A 001A 03O 108 110 202B 213 229L 230 236 249 255B 260 260B 280 287 294 2XXL 302B 332B 423 474
477 485 510 518 550 580 67N 70O 734 800 873 875 928 953 963U 967 F212 FW G646 GA HA J54 K11 K13
L M22 M651 R01 R78 U01 U12 U18 U60 V06 VL VR
don't worry about those codes, they represent every option your car had from the factory, I just need them on this screen so I can interpret the parts catalog entries on my other screen...
option 485 in there is DIRECT CONTROL Suspension, which I believe is the 'comfort' suspension.
ok, your fronts....
Springs are A2123210404, Color: 4 X blue. note says, UPON EXCHANGING SPRING, ALWAYS REPLACE LOWER SPRING SEAL
Upper shim, left and right is A2123220284
Lower shim, L & R is A2123220084
your front struts are A2123235300 (replaces A2123231300)
and rears...Upper shim, left and right is A2123220284
Lower shim, L & R is A2123220084
your front struts are A2123235300 (replaces A2123231300)
Springs are A2123240104 color 1 x Red, same note, always replace lower spring seal
lower shim: A2043240184
shocks: A2123200630
your stock suspension had a 25mm front torsion bar (anti-sway bar), and 18.5mm rear torsion bar. if someone installed stiffer lowering springs, they may have also replaced the sway bars.lower shim: A2043240184
shocks: A2123200630
and of course, 19" wheels are undoubtedly NOT stock, I would expect a E220 diesel to have come with either 16 or 17" wheels, either of which would give you a way smoother/quieter ride than 19" wheels, never mind cheaper tires that last longer.
yeah, your car came with A21240102027X07 wheels, which are 8.0J x 16 H2 ET46, 5 double spoke, front and rear, thats option code R78.
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LCG,
Does your ebay WIS/EPC produced that data card up to suspension spring color code detail ?
My ebay EPC 2018 version can't access data card
If so, I want your version of the ebay EPC then... link please , thank u.
Does your ebay WIS/EPC produced that data card up to suspension spring color code detail ?
My ebay EPC 2018 version can't access data card
If so, I want your version of the ebay EPC then... link please , thank u.
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yeah, the old standalone EPC has no access to the mothership databases.
as someone who's owned 3 1990s Mercs for years, I've been subscribing to XEntry Parts Info (the replacement for EPC), direct from Mercedes. I get enough utility out of it to make the $75/year well worth it. This isn't full WIS, its just the 'real' parts catalog, but the fact that it can pull info direct from the mothership and filter the model's parts collections to suit the VIN's feature codes makes it well worth it.
as someone who's owned 3 1990s Mercs for years, I've been subscribing to XEntry Parts Info (the replacement for EPC), direct from Mercedes. I get enough utility out of it to make the $75/year well worth it. This isn't full WIS, its just the 'real' parts catalog, but the fact that it can pull info direct from the mothership and filter the model's parts collections to suit the VIN's feature codes makes it well worth it.
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yeah, the old standalone EPC has no access to the mothership databases.
as someone who's owned 3 1990s Mercs for years, I've been subscribing to XEntry Parts Info (the replacement for EPC), direct from Mercedes. I get enough utility out of it to make the $75/year well worth it. This isn't full WIS, its just the 'real' parts catalog, but the fact that it can pull info direct from the mothership and filter the model's parts collections to suit the VIN's feature codes makes it well worth it.
as someone who's owned 3 1990s Mercs for years, I've been subscribing to XEntry Parts Info (the replacement for EPC), direct from Mercedes. I get enough utility out of it to make the $75/year well worth it. This isn't full WIS, its just the 'real' parts catalog, but the fact that it can pull info direct from the mothership and filter the model's parts collections to suit the VIN's feature codes makes it well worth it.
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yeah, the old standalone EPC has no access to the mothership databases.
as someone who's owned 3 1990s Mercs for years, I've been subscribing to XEntry Parts Info (the replacement for EPC), direct from Mercedes. I get enough utility out of it to make the $75/year well worth it. This isn't full WIS, its just the 'real' parts catalog, but the fact that it can pull info direct from the mothership and filter the model's parts collections to suit the VIN's feature codes makes it well worth it.
as someone who's owned 3 1990s Mercs for years, I've been subscribing to XEntry Parts Info (the replacement for EPC), direct from Mercedes. I get enough utility out of it to make the $75/year well worth it. This isn't full WIS, its just the 'real' parts catalog, but the fact that it can pull info direct from the mothership and filter the model's parts collections to suit the VIN's feature codes makes it well worth it.
US$75 a year is decent for EPC only if it has the mothership database. I will look into it.
Can you check mine please : MHL212065EJ004768 / WDD2120656L037906 , I am curious if Indonesian locally assembled cars are in that mothership database.
My springs :
thank you.
ADD : https://xentry-shop.mercedes-benz.co...=8796716040334
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WOW, so you got the real thing. Nice nice nice
US$75 a year is decent for EPC only if it has the mothership database. I will look into it.
Can you check mine please : MHL212065EJ004768 / WDD2120656L037906 , I am curious if Indonesian locally assembled cars are in that mothership database.
US$75 a year is decent for EPC only if it has the mothership database. I will look into it.
Can you check mine please : MHL212065EJ004768 / WDD2120656L037906 , I am curious if Indonesian locally assembled cars are in that mothership database.
here ya go!
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note that there's two springs listed, for instance, one of them on the rear says "Code: (65O+(482/485))+-(M156+M63/M157+M55/M005)"
you need to look at your data card, that spring is for a car with option 650, and either 482 or 485, but NO options M156+M63 or M157+M55 or M005... the alternative rear spring says 486/677, which means either code 486 or 677
edit: and then, oh geez, both those springs are the same P/N, hah hah. why they do this? who knows.
you need to look at your data card, that spring is for a car with option 650, and either 482 or 485, but NO options M156+M63 or M157+M55 or M005... the alternative rear spring says 486/677, which means either code 486 or 677
edit: and then, oh geez, both those springs are the same P/N, hah hah. why they do this? who knows.
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WOW, so you got the real thing. Nice nice nice
US$75 a year is decent for EPC only if it has the mothership database. I will look into it.
Can you check mine please : MHL212065EJ004768 / WDD2120656L037906 , I am curious if Indonesian locally assembled cars are in that mothership database.
My springs :
thank you.
ADD : https://xentry-shop.mercedes-benz.co...=8796716040334
US$75 a year is decent for EPC only if it has the mothership database. I will look into it.
Can you check mine please : MHL212065EJ004768 / WDD2120656L037906 , I am curious if Indonesian locally assembled cars are in that mothership database.
My springs :
thank you.
ADD : https://xentry-shop.mercedes-benz.co...=8796716040334
https://www.startekinfo.com/home
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I think MB has different prices for different countries. Could be cheaper or more money in yours. I think the US one is here:
https://www.startekinfo.com/home
https://www.startekinfo.com/home
https://aftersales.daimler.com/
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note that there's two springs listed, for instance, one of them on the rear says "Code: (65O+(482/485))+-(M156+M63/M157+M55/M005)"
you need to look at your data card, that spring is for a car with option 650, and either 482 or 485, but NO options M156+M63 or M157+M55 or M005... the alternative rear spring says 486/677, which means either code 486 or 677
edit: and then, oh geez, both those springs are the same P/N, hah hah. why they do this? who knows.
you need to look at your data card, that spring is for a car with option 650, and either 482 or 485, but NO options M156+M63 or M157+M55 or M005... the alternative rear spring says 486/677, which means either code 486 or 677
edit: and then, oh geez, both those springs are the same P/N, hah hah. why they do this? who knows.
Okey dokey.
Let see. I got Data Card from our guru Mr K a year over ago. I titled it OFFICIAL.
The one from you, I titled it ORIGINAL.
Here are the differences.........
ABOVE. It is true that the rear door blind is manual hand operated and not electric version.
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ABOVE. Mine is surely not AGM Speedshift MCT which supposedly has no torque converter.
The way both data cards described the options, the one from Mr K averagely has more product information.
ABOVE. Your data card version I think showed serial numbers... nice, the one I circled cyan, right side one. While Mr K version has suspension data, left side one.
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I never pay attention to the rear spring shim, so I do not its actual number.
Front shim is correct P/N, but I wonder why no code 677 included ?
Allright. Thanks again LCG.
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re thje speedshiuft thing, I believe there's two versions of the AMG Speedshift, the MCT one is the normal one with a torque converter, while the other one, can't remember the TLA (three letter acronym) has the dual clutch and no torque converter, and is used on the real AMG cars.
my E350 US model 'luxury' has the AMG Speedshift MCT too/ not 100% sure, but I believe the AMG Speedshift part of it is a faster shifting automatic, with the E-S (Econo-Sports) mode button and paddles for manually shifting
my E350 US model 'luxury' has the AMG Speedshift MCT too/ not 100% sure, but I believe the AMG Speedshift part of it is a faster shifting automatic, with the E-S (Econo-Sports) mode button and paddles for manually shifting
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I think for a while that is called TCT, and better known as 7G-Plus where Manual mode is added.
TCT = Torque-Clutch Transmission
https://www.mbgilbert.com/blog/amg-s...smission-work/
AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9G (MCT = Multi-Clutch Transmission)
AMG SPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G (TCT = Torque-Clutch Transmission)
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=41351883
Hmm just like the lights. Dynamic LED = ILS = Multi Beam LED
TCT = Torque-Clutch Transmission
https://www.mbgilbert.com/blog/amg-s...smission-work/
AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9G (MCT = Multi-Clutch Transmission)
AMG SPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G (TCT = Torque-Clutch Transmission)
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=41351883
Hmm just like the lights. Dynamic LED = ILS = Multi Beam LED
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my 2016 E35 4matic wagon "luxury" has...
427 - AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sport transmission
428 - DIRECT SELECT shift paddles
427 - AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sport transmission
428 - DIRECT SELECT shift paddles
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Hi, sorry for jumping in the thread.I just found my car tilted to its side because a spring probably broke, and I cant order the spring because I don't know which variant it is...could you please help me? The VIN is WDB2110081B09358 I also got installed the ones that raise it's back by about an inch more than the factory ones, should I change those as well?
