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Old 09-14-2021, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
ideally, get a set of the 17" wheels from a "Luxury" trim 212. they will just clear your front ball joints and brakes

thats these, A21240159027X46, and use 245/45R17 XL ... you get a little more sidewall which helps with rough roads in the winter

That is indeed the plan. The X-ice I have are on 17's as well while my summers are 18. Thanks!
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Alloys preferably. I have a set of Michelin X-Ice for my bmw and they are great so I will be looking for a set of those.
Thank you Fliplegend. I am in Florida, and no need for winters but I have always had full-sized spare tires on my vehicles and I have not found a steel wheel properly sized. So, I would have to get an original (not necessarily new) alloy wheel to match the car (not needed but).
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Thank you Fliplegend. I am in Florida, and no need for winters but I have always had full-sized spare tires on my vehicles and I have not found a steel wheel properly sized. So, I would have to get an original (not necessarily new) alloy wheel to match the car (not needed but).
The good thing is that Audi's and VW's also have the same bolt pattern so as long as width and offset is close, those are also options.
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I've been warned that carwash facilities do not filter the salt out of the water they recycle through their systems, so you end up shooting salt water at the underside of your car. Does anyone have information as to the truth/falsehood of this claim?
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Originally Posted by wdbii
I've been warned that carwash facilities do not filter the salt out of the water they recycle through their systems, so you end up shooting salt water at the underside of your car. Does anyone have information as to the truth/falsehood of this claim?
Next time you go through a carwash in winter, roll your window down and taste the water. Recycled water is run through filtration, if not the dirt and salt would clog jets, valves and sensors, is it possible? Yes. Would it be stupid as the carwash owner to put their whole system at risk for a fifty dollar filter? you be the judge.
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regular particle filtration will not remove soluable salts, that requires significantly more expensive treatment, which I doubt carwashes have. desalination is actually quite difficult and very energy intensive.
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Originally Posted by Fliplegend
The good thing is that Audi's and VW's also have the same bolt pattern so as long as width and offset is close, those are also options.
do they also use 14mm spherical head lug screws, and a 66.56mm center bore ? I believe older VAG (VW, Audi) products used a smaller bore hole (57mm?), I don't know when they switched. looks liek they switched from 57 to 66.5 in 2011, at least with the A6.

there's yet another factor, not all wheels of a particular size have the same INSIDE diameter, so if you're fitting 17's on a E350 4matic, for instance, there's very little clearance with the Mercedes 17" wheels, and its quite possible another brand would not clear. I ran into this in older Volvo land... 240s and 740/940s had the same bolt and hub patterns, but later 740/940s required 15" or larger wheels, and some of the optional 15's for 240s would not clear the brakes or ball joint even though they were the right width and offset.

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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
regular particle filtration will not remove soluable salts, that requires significantly more expensive treatment, which I doubt carwashes have. desalination is actually quite difficult and very energy intensive.
True, thats why 5 micron particle filter is first then an activated carbon filter is used for suspended solids like sodium. seems to work fine is the RO and UF systems my firm designs for Coke and Pepsi, AB and Miller. We also use these same systems to make "Rocky Mountain Spring Water" out of the Shenandoah river in Elkton, Virginia

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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
True, thats why 5 micron particle filter is first then an activated carbon filter is used for suspended solids like sodium. seems to work fine is the RO and UF systems my firm designs for Coke and Pepsi, AB and Miller. We also use these same systems to make "Rocky Mountain Spring Water" out of the Shenandoah river in Elkton, Virginia
Yes, Reverse Osmosis removes salts like sodium chloride. Activated charcoal does not, as the sodium is an ion in full solution, Activated charcoal absorbs trace organics.

An RO system sized for a car wash would be huge and expensive, further, RO wastes more water than it outputs which would be counterproductive in a water recycling system designed to save water.
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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
Yes, Reverse Osmosis removes salts like sodium chloride. Activated charcoal does not, as the sodium is an ion in full solution, Activated charcoal absorbs trace organics.

An RO system sized for a car wash would be huge and expensive, further, RO wastes more water than it outputs which would be counterproductive in a water recycling system designed to save water.
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Originally Posted by wdbii
I've been warned that carwash facilities do not filter the salt out of the water they recycle through their systems, so you end up shooting salt water at the underside of your car. Does anyone have information as to the truth/falsehood of this claim?
The topic was discussed here (for example)

https://www.chicagotribune.com/autos...322-story.html

As with any information coming from an association of XXX, it must be taken with a grain of salt
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Originally Posted by Couch67
Might be a dumb question, but with all of the motors, sensors and other gadgets in this vehicle, how does it fare in winter? My car will be outside 24/7 in the cold Canadian winter, likely a shock to it after a previous 9 year existence of summer driving only, and garage stored.

Any precautions or things to keep an eye on, or features that should be disabled (ie. mirror auto folding)? Or dont worry about it and just drive?

You're from Ontario so just find a local KROWN or RUST CHECK dealer and have it undercoated .

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