2011 E550 battery losing power
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MY'14 W212 M276 3.5NA @60kMi
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batt or starter
You want to use a DC-Amp-clamp to prevent disturbing the sleep you are trying to observe.
If you drive 8Hrs and the battery cranks slow after a 1Hr stop and the battery is tested ok... then you have a marginal starter brushset - One of the 4 starter brushes is worned out short forcing current into only 2 brushes circuit. We'll see...
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BINGO !!
Are you suggesting I buy a new battery?
It is a few years old, but I replaced it because it was doing the same thing with the old one. Didn't improve much (maybe lasted a little longer between the need to recharge).
After the battery, I replaced the voltage regulator in the original alternator, after it didn't fix the issue, I (2-3 years ago) replaced the alternator (with a used one from a very low mileage car).
That iproved the situation, but never fixed it completely. This week i replaced the voltage regulator of this alternator and didnt fix the problem. If you think the battery should be replaced, I'll do it.
It is a few years old, but I replaced it because it was doing the same thing with the old one. Didn't improve much (maybe lasted a little longer between the need to recharge).
After the battery, I replaced the voltage regulator in the original alternator, after it didn't fix the issue, I (2-3 years ago) replaced the alternator (with a used one from a very low mileage car).
That iproved the situation, but never fixed it completely. This week i replaced the voltage regulator of this alternator and didnt fix the problem. If you think the battery should be replaced, I'll do it.
(Batt + Alt are off the short list).
Buy an OEM starter brushset or a complete starter unit.
Do cross reference proper P/N
For reference what is your mileage?
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; 09-01-2023 at 03:50 PM.
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My mileage is a little over 140k, but the starter was replaced about 20k miles with one from a vehicle with 60k or so (if the yard was honest). Do you thinknthat the Bosh brush set would fix the possible issue with the starter?
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double up bypass
> Free quick test:
Use your "jumper cables" to bypass chassis strap.
Here's how:
-- Connect black side to the chassis brass post (-)
-- the other end of black side cable to engine metal
(leave the Red side cable unused).
This setup is providing unquestionably good GND path for a normal starter to crank reasonably well.
Do you notice any speed difference with strap bypassef?
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2014 - W212.065 - E400 ( M276.820, 3 liter Turbo) RWD not Hybrid
I measured it using a multi voltage meter connecting to negative terminal and to clamp. I measured it when the car had been sitting for a while (with the engine shut off) after I started the engine for a minute, not aware that it matters how long it's driven.
When you disconnect the negative to connect the tester, doesn't that wake the modules up?
When you disconnect the negative to connect the tester, doesn't that wake the modules up?
Yes, loose power for a mere 2 seconds from ground or positive cable at battery post, the modules will power down and will wake up again, like a bad reset.
Anytime a battery is disconnected, often there will be DTC too, because some modules may wake up faster or sleep a bit slower as such when one of a known module is OFFLINE due to powerloss, the other modules
will think it is a fault condition. Later within seconds when the OFFLINE-ded module wakes up and all good, the DTC will then become STORED one, no more CURRENT one.
How I do it to not loose power is here : https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...-your-car.html
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Still not charging properly, but have realizations
So I just realized that my alternator charges my battery (between 13 and 14v is the norm) and runs properly during the winter months and I don't have to plug it in at all during the winter. As soon as the weather gets warmer, the voltage goes down to 12v or below and after a few days, I have a very slow crank, followed by requiring a jump. Is there something I can do to trick the computer to charge the same way it charges during the winter? Otherwise, I have to charge the battery at least once per week so I don't risk the embarrassment of jumping my car on the street.
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CANCELING BATTERY CHAOS
So I just realized that my alternator charges my battery (between 13 and 14v is the norm) and runs properly during the winter months and I don't have to plug it in at all during the winter. As soon as the weather gets warmer, the voltage goes down to 12v or below and after a few days, I have a very slow crank, followed by requiring a jump. Is there something I can do to trick the computer to charge the same way it charges during the winter? Otherwise, I have to charge the battery at least once per week so I don't risk the embarrassment of jumping my car on the street.
-- you can simply drive with headlights:ON
-- or you can research how to disconnect the ALT LIN
-- or you can try to fix factory painted GND posts
Do the above and keep monitoring your dashboard battery stats.
Let us know what's best.
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