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Old Nov 18, 2023 | 01:33 PM
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E220 OM651 steering problem

Hey.

I have a problem with my W212 OM651.
Upon cold start, steering works fine. I can turn steering wheel easily to the end and no sound can be heard.
After few minutes, sliping serpentine belt noise appears when turning the steering wheel.

I am not sure what I should do. I Already replaced a lot of stuff and now different mechanics give me different solutions to this problem.

Generator ar generator clutch is new, idler pulleys are new, belt and tensioner - new. Replaced 2 power steering pumps, couple of hoses that connect to power steering pump.

At this moment one mechanic recommends changing power steering pump once again, other says to change steering rack, other one says that steering rack has no affect on hydraulic oil preassure in the system which could cause belt slipping.

Any ideas what to look for?
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Old Nov 18, 2023 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wndrz
Hey.

I have a problem with my W212 OM651.
Upon cold start, steering works fine. I can turn steering wheel easily to the end and no sound can be heard.
After few minutes, sliping serpentine belt noise appears when turning the steering wheel.

I am not sure what I should do. I Already replaced a lot of stuff and now different mechanics give me different solutions to this problem.

Generator ar generator clutch is new, idler pulleys are new, belt and tensioner - new. Replaced 2 power steering pumps, couple of hoses that connect to power steering pump.

At this moment one mechanic recommends changing power steering pump once again, other says to change steering rack, other one says that steering rack has no affect on hydraulic oil preassure in the system which could cause belt slipping.

Any ideas what to look for?
I would have said tensioner is the No1 hidden troublemaker but it's already renewed...

test that all pulleys spin somewhat well with acceptable play... I expect everything will check out fine in your case (A/C compressor??)

Then suspect a mismatched belt length... inspect tensioner position indicator for clue of wrong length.
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++++ Belt scenario...
For some reason you ended up with the wrong belt for your engine type/options. Perhaps inproperly installed but that is real basic fault.

Can you compare belts side by side or by a CONTINENTAL for your engine type. Knock off spares are just out to make a quick buck on your dime.

Where did you source these parts ? TRY PELICAN PARTS


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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
I would have said tensioner is the No1 hidden troublemaker but it's already renewed...

test that all pulleys spin somewhat well with acceptable play... I expect everything will check out fine in your case (A/C compressor??)

Then suspect a mismatched belt length... inspect tensioner position indicator for clue of wrong length.
​​​​​​
🤞
++++ Belt scenario...
For some reason you ended up with the wrong belt for your engine type/options. Perhaps inproperly installed but that is real basic fault.

Can you compare belts side by side or by a CONTINENTAL for your engine type. Knock off spares are just out to make a quick buck on your dime.

Where did you source these parts ? TRY PELICAN PARTS
I wish that was it. New belt is made by Continental.As a test, we tried to put 5 mm shorter belt, it did not help. All the pulleys are fine.

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I wish that was it. New belt is made by Continental.As a test, we tried to put 5 mm shorter belt, it did not help. All the pulleys are fine.
You know this is not wich crafts, right...
one of the pulley is misaligned - It got installed with a rear spacer-washer missing.

Pardon me asking : IS THE PATH CORRECT ROUTING?

What current mileage... Water pump??

> List of known good:
Conti belt(s)
Tensioner
steering pump(s)
idler pulleys
compressor
Alrernator
Water pp??
Alignt??

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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
You know this is not wich crafts, right...
one of the pulley is misaligned - It got installed with a rear spacer-washer missing.

Pardon me asking : IS THE PATH CORRECT ROUTING?

What current mileage... Water pump??

> List of known good:
Conti belt(s)
Tensioner
steering pump(s)
idler pulleys
compressor
Alrernator
Water pp??
Alignt??
I inspected everything again and when checking generator and generator clutch, I noticed that clutch was stuck although both parts were new. I removed it and saw that it was actually a pulley and not a clutch. After replacing it with a clutch, everythings runs perfect.
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